not saying radical islam sanitizes it by making it seem like islam had nothing to do with it where in reality it should be stated clearly so we show it has islamic ties to make people see it ruins the image of islam.
I don't really buy what you're saying about it. I think a better case can be made that it helps the extremists, and legitimizes their ties to the religion itself & calls for holy war. I don't think it does much in the way of actually helping to combat terrorism.
given that that strategy you subscibe too has led us into a stalemate for 15 years and that it looks like there is no end in sight at what point will you try something new? 30 years? 40?
"the extremists" are a part of Islam.. it's not like they are just making it up and running an Islamic State for fun and games
For starters, definitely a strawman.
And your thinking is impossibly linear. We're talking about 2 different groups. Personally, I'm fine w/ calling either "radical (insert religion)." But does it play into the hands of a group like ISIS? Their goal is holy war. Would you say that Christian extremists have the same goal?
I wouldn't. I don't see that same stated goal from Christian extremist groups, at least not put that way. ISIS wants a war w/ the West. I just don't see that out of so-called Christian extremist groups.
Do you? Please detail.
How is it a strawman? Until you explain that, it is pointless discussing anything with you. Because this post clearly indicates to me that you do fear radical Muslims more than radical Christians.
I don't fear Muslims or Christians. I fear ISIS & the KKK. Today, I definitely fear ISIS more.
Get it?
I know you don't. You don't have to answer that. But that's the strawman.
you would do well to study the sects of Islam.They certainly want you & I to think that they're part of Islam.
What about the rest of Islam? How do you think they feel about ISIS associating w/ them?
Terrorism has been around for many centuries - not just 15 years. The way you're talking about it, you seem to think there are a finite # of terrorists, and once we get rid of them, it's over.
I think we've thwarted a LOT of terrorist plots, probably more than we can count or can ever be aware of. I'm not really sure how you stop a guy like this terrorist in Orlando. The stuff you & Trump are talking about has nothing to do with him or what he did. These kinds of lunatics will always be around - the best way to stop them is just keep working on intel & gun control. I think Trump is as off as you can be that most of the Muslim community knew about this ahead of time. I think his wife knew, but that's about it.
but see we have already tried for more than a decade to avoid tying the two together and recruits still flock to them. Maybe that strategy is not working?
A strawman is me claiming you said or believe something moron. Asking you to explain your position is not a straw man, in fact is the essence of debating. Your answer is a strawman, because I never said anything about Muslims or Christians, I said RADICAL. And you have now finally admitted you fear radical Muslims more than radical Christians.
Therefore, my question is 100% on point and it proved a presumption I had that you do fear them more and you admit you do. So, really, you want to capitulate to them and not call them what they so as not to upset them. That is what I find appalling and cowardly. It is PC run amok. It is hypocrisy, plain and simple.
A strawman is me claiming you said or believe something moron. Asking you to explain your position is not a straw man, in fact is the essence of debating. Your answer is a strawman, because I never said anything about Muslims or Christians, I said RADICAL. And you have now finally admitted you fear radical Muslims more than radical Christians.
Therefore, my question is 100% on point and it proved a presumption I had that you do fear them more and you admit you do. So, really, you want to capitulate to them and not call them what they so as not to upset them. That is what I find appalling and cowardly. It is PC run amok. It is hypocrisy, plain and simple.
Oh, fuck you. You're really such an idiot.
It's not about "upsetting them." What a fucking imbecile. It's about LEGITIMIZING them and their cause.
Don't vote. You're an idiot.
Saying they are radical Muslim terrorists legitimizes them? WTF kind of bullshit is that? Calling them by a different name means they don't exist? LOL.
You shouldn't vote idiot.
No one is making an issue out of not saying radical Christianity. That is the point. Why should people not say radical Islam, but it is okay to say radical Christianity? Does this mean you guys actually fear Muslims more than Christians?
Re: the bolded - bull. You don't even know what you type.
Post # 25: "Does this mean you guys actually fear Muslims more than Christians?"
Good gotcha there Thing. My whole post was about radicals, but yep, I forgot to put radical in the last sentence.
Great gotcha game there, you win. Go pat yourself on the pat for being a hypocrite when it come to gotcha bullshit. I"m really, you couldn't tell what I was talking about because of a typo. LOL
Well, a lot of people who actually study this stuff say absolutely. It legitimizes their concept of holy war if we start using rhetoric that makes their cause more religious, and more about Islam vs. the West.
I'm sorry that you don't understand that psychology, or much of anything. But you're a fucking imbecile.