What happens if the young and healthy don't sign up for Obamacare?

blackascoal said:
Affordable Care Act's challenge: getting young adults enrolled

Starting next year, Californians will be required to have insurance. Some young people plan to forgo coverage. But the plan needs them to balance out older people.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-young-adult-insure-20130603,0,3134348.story

If the young and healthy don't sign up .. the entire program implodes
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Well if it implodes in California, you might see states moving to single payer...which might be how we get there federally.
 
Darla said:
Well if it implodes in California, you might see states moving to single payer...which might be how we get there federally.
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Too bad the intelligence wasn't there to know that SP should have been passed, or at the very least tried, before they came up with Mr.47%Care .. that will hand republicans the Senate.
 
Threedee said:
Wasn't this just all supposed to be a stepping stone to SP?
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NOPE .. it was supposed to be a boon for the health insurance industry.

A gift from a corporatist president .. and all the keys to a successful implementation are in the hands of .. you guessed it .. republicans.

The ACA has to be one of the most mind-boggling and politically-ignorant programs ever devised.

If I didn't know better, I would think Obama is a double-agent working for the Republican Party.

He's already given them the House .. now he's about to hand them the Senate.
 
Being young doesn't make you immune. My stepdaughter had both kidney stones AND e-coli poisoning in the same year - and she was 23. Luckily, because of the ACA, she was on my insurance. Now she has a job that provides insurance, but she and her sister both know that, given the cost of medical treatment, when they hit 26 they'll be buying it if their work doesn't cover them.

Ever have kidney stones, Kane? real painful, and they don't always pass on their own. Buy the insurance or don't, but if you don't, then don't ask us to cover your expenses in the ER or wherever when you do get sick. Or when you get in a car accident. Or when you fall off a roof thinking you can fly while you're high on something.
 
tekkychick said:
Being young doesn't make you immune. My stepdaughter had both kidney stones AND e-coli poisoning in the same year - and she was 23. Luckily, because of the ACA, she was on my insurance. Now she has a job that provides insurance, but she and her sister both know that, given the cost of medical treatment, when they hit 26 they'll be buying it if their work doesn't cover them.

Ever have kidney stones, Kane? real painful, and they don't always pass on their own. Buy the insurance or don't, but if you don't, then don't ask us to cover your expenses in the ER or wherever when you do get sick. Or when you get in a car accident. Or when you fall off a roof thinking you can fly while you're high on something.
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Good points.
 
tekkychick said:
Being young doesn't make you immune. My stepdaughter had both kidney stones AND e-coli poisoning in the same year - and she was 23. Luckily, because of the ACA, she was on my insurance. Now she has a job that provides insurance, but she and her sister both know that, given the cost of medical treatment, when they hit 26 they'll be buying it if their work doesn't cover them.

Ever have kidney stones, Kane? real painful, and they don't always pass on their own. Buy the insurance or don't, but if you don't, then don't ask us to cover your expenses in the ER or wherever when you do get sick. Or when you get in a car accident. Or when you fall off a roof thinking you can fly while you're high on something.
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I don't ask anyone to pay for my own mistakes. Never have and never will. I don't go for force.
 
Kane said:
I don't ask anyone to pay for my own mistakes. Never have and never will. I don't go for force.
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Cool. Hope you have 10s of thousands of dollars laid up.

It wasn't a "mistake" that caused my step-daughter to get kidney stones. Nor e-coli. Shit happens. And it's expensive shit without health insurance.
 
tekkychick said:
Being young doesn't make you immune. My stepdaughter had both kidney stones AND e-coli poisoning in the same year - and she was 23. Luckily, because of the ACA, she was on my insurance. Now she has a job that provides insurance, but she and her sister both know that, given the cost of medical treatment, when they hit 26 they'll be buying it if their work doesn't cover them.

Ever have kidney stones, Kane? real painful, and they don't always pass on their own. Buy the insurance or don't, but if you don't, then don't ask us to cover your expenses in the ER or wherever when you do get sick. Or when you get in a car accident. Or when you fall off a roof thinking you can fly while you're high on something.
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I agree with you .. but the young are also facing exploding college costs, high unemployment and underemployment .. and may be hit with a shortened work week because of Obamacare.

Why are we pressuring them to support the health of the nation?

It doesn't make sense.
 
Kane said:
I know I wouldn't buy into it at all. Why should my generation buy into it? We already pay the most for college to have the highest unemployment and lowest wages? Fuck you for FORCING us to pay more.
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Because you dumb fucks are too busy on Xbox to do anything about it!
Thanks slackers
 
blackascoal said:
NOPE .. it was supposed to be a boon for the health insurance industry.

A gift from a corporatist president .. and all the keys to a successful implementation are in the hands of .. you guessed it .. republicans.

The ACA has to be one of the most mind-boggling and politically-ignorant programs ever devised.

If I didn't know better, I would think Obama is a double-agent working for the Republican Party.

He's already given them the House .. now he's about to hand them the Senate.
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Good! it's about damned time Komrade Reid was booted.
 
This is total bullshit. I mean, it's not like today's young and healthy people might grow older and less healthy over time such that they might reap the benefits of the system in the the future. That'd be one thing that maybe I could understand. But this . . . this is intolerable.
 
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