What ever happen to Paul Ryan?

Dungheap said:
Under any definition of the term, the fiscal cliff deal is a tax cut. The extended Bush tax rates expired December 31, 2012 at 11:59 p.m. and the Clinton rates kicked in at 12:00 a.m. January 1, 2013. Then the fiscal cliff deal passed and was signed by Obama, cutting the now-increased rates back down.
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No, it most certainly is not. The Bush tax cuts were permanently extended for those under $400/450k. Only a partisan hack would pretend otherwise.
 
Dungheap said:
Under any definition of the term, the fiscal cliff deal is a tax cut. The extended Bush tax rates expired December 31, 2012 at 11:59 p.m. and the Clinton rates kicked in at 12:00 a.m. January 1, 2013. Then the fiscal cliff deal passed and was signed by Obama, cutting the now-increased rates back down.
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Do you have your little chart that shows how evil the Bush tax cuts were for the economy all updated with the fact that now Obama has made the majority of them permanent?
 
Superfreak said:
I am not the one who continually trotted it out to show how evil the tax cuts were. You were. Which is why I asked you and not some random person on the board.
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I don't remember trotting any chart out to show how evil the tax cuts were for the economy, so you'll have to go ahead and dig a post up for me. (If I "continually" did it, this shouldn't be too tough a task). I do recall trotting out charts that showed that the tax cuts disproportionately benefited the wealthy and caused structural deficits (which is true), but I don't remember claiming that they were "evil for the economy."
 
Dungheap said:
I don't remember trotting any chart out to show how evil the tax cuts were for the economy, so you'll have to go ahead and dig a post up for me. (If I "continually" did it, this shouldn't be too tough a task). I do recall trotting out charts that showed that the tax cuts disproportionately benefited the wealthy and caused structural deficits (which is true), but I don't remember claiming that they were "evil for the economy."
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LMAO... amazing how you have already forgotten. Let me guess, you won't be posting that chart any more now that the bulk of the bush tax cuts were just permanently extended by Obama?

Good to know. Chalk this one up to another liberal faux outrage... just like the war in Afghanistan, GITMO, the Patriot Act, drone bombing of brown people, etc...
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... amazing how you have already forgotten. Let me guess, you won't be posting that chart any more now that the bulk of the bush tax cuts were just permanently extended by Obama?

Good to know. Chalk this one up to another liberal faux outrage... just like the war in Afghanistan, GITMO, the Patriot Act, drone bombing of brown people, etc...
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I haven't forgotten anything. You're simply misremembering. The argument that the Bush tax cuts were bad for the economy in general is not a very good one. The argument that they disproportionately benefited rich people and increased inequality is a good one as is the argument that they created large structural deficits.

If I ran the zoo the tax cuts would never have expired and would have been extended en toto, even though I think they shouldn't have been passed in the first instance.
 
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