What does BLM and Antifa actually want?

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Phantasmal said:
True, I agree.

There are a handful of people that want to get rid of police, but they are a very small minority.

It needs to be clarified because the Republicans will try to use it as you stated.

There are some police departments that need to be completely gutted and start all over.
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Only a handful :laugh:

Look at what happened to the mayor of Minneapolis.
 
Irish said:
You know also wants that? EVERYONE! Including 99% of Republicans.

We all want bad cops held accountable.

All the cops in the GF case have been arrested. All were condemned by everyone, right left and center. So why weeks of riots?
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I know you do Irish!

There were basically only a couple of days of Riots. The police did a great job in shutting the riots down, well, except for the first night that caught everyone off guard including the police. And except for the one riot in DC on June 1st that was actually caused by the so-called military of paramilitary groups Barr hired to clear the streets for a presidential PHOTO-OP!

I think the BLM led protests will start to quiesce after the funeral tomorrow.

I think the taking everything to the streets is going to be a thing of the future though.

Who knows, next time it may be you and me out there defending the cops and making sure their lives matter to everyone as well.

What Donald Trump needs to be very careful about, is trying to get too involved in this unrest right now, and only speak when he can say something as an effort to bringing us all together.

Because truly, this is not about him really. But if he injects himself into it and tries to make it all about him and his efforts to call these protests riots, and getting the Military involved in ordinary peaceful protests, THE PROTESTS WILL END UP BEING ABOUT HIM TRYING TO circumvent THE 1st Amendment rights of the people guaranteed by the CONSTITUTION.

And then these protests will just continue up to election night.

That will not help his low approval ratings- nor will it end the protests, but rather kick off a whole new series of protests- that is for sure.
 
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Geeko Sportivo said:
I know you do Irish!

There were basically only a couple of days of Riots. The police did a great job in shutting the riots down, well, except for the first night that caught everyone off guard including the police. And except for the one riot in DC on June 1st that was actually caused by the so-called military of paramilitary groups Barr hired to clear the streets for a presidential PHOTO-OP!

I think the BLM led protests will start to quiesce after the funeral tomorrow.

I think the taking everything to the streets is going to be a thing of the future though.

Who knows, next time it may be you and me out there defending the cops and making sure their lives matter to everyone as well.

What Donald Trump needs to be very careful about, is trying to get too involved in this unrest right now, and only speak when he can say something as an effort to bringing us all together.

Because truly, this is not about him really. But if he injects himself into it and tries to make it all about him and his efforts to call these protests riots, and getting the Military involved in ordinary peaceful protests, THE PROTESTS WILL END UP BEING ABOUT HIM TRYING TO circumvent THE 1st Amendment rights of the people guaranteed by the CONSTITUTION.

And then these protests will just continue up to election night.

That will not help his low approval ratings- nor will it end the protests, but rather kick off a whole new series of protests- that is for sure.
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I agree with most of what you said.

Trump had a tough week. While I agreed with his speech on cracking down on the rioting, he missed the unity and calm part.

Even tho I don't think it was a photo op, it was bad optics.

Biden's lead is pretty large right now. The race will be if Trump can close that by November.
 
Phantasmal said:
True, I agree.

There are a handful of people that want to get rid of police, but they are a very small minority.

It needs to be clarified because the Republicans will try to use it as you stated.

There are some police departments that need to be completely gutted and start all over.
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I think even the ones that are the bad ones have realized it is not worth spending time in prison over it or causing all this trouble nation-wide causing Policemen to have to work around the clock. This one backfired on them big-time! Hopefully that in itself will get them to change their bad behaviors!
 
I know that some Antifa members (if that even who they are) can be pretty violent, but that's usually against the white supremacists and Neo-Nazis who clash with them, like we saw in Charlottesville.

But to label the entire group of people, like Antifa and the white supremacists, a terrorist group is pretty dumb and unconstitutional.
 
Irish said:
I agree with most of what you said.

Trump had a tough week. While I agreed with his speech on cracking down on the rioting, he missed the unity and calm part.

Even tho I don't think it was a photo op, it was bad optics.

Biden's lead is pretty large right now. The race will be if Trump can close that by November.
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Thanks again for the positive commenting!

I don't want to see a slaughter! I think the election will mean more to people if it is a close well thought out race!
 
Irish said:
It would appear so. Making them also anarchists.
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So some Antifa members are anarchists? Yeah that could be true. Weird, kinda contradictory, but ok. Like how some white supremacists are anarchists because they want white America and government.
 
Irish said:
It would appear so. Making them also anarchists.
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So some Antifa members are anarchists? Yeah that could be true. Weird, kinda contradictory, but ok. Like how some white supremacists are anarchists because they want white America and government.
 
AProudLefty said:
But you do agree that not all are anarchists or terrorists? That's my point. Labelling BLM and Antifa (and white supremacists) terrorist groups paves the way to Fascism, ironically. It's exactly what Nazi Germany did.
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Little oversimplified. I don't think Nazi's claimed Jews were terrorists. Just that they were inferior.

Not all are bad no. Just like not all cops are bad.

If we could all just think for a second
 
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