What do you do with this statue?

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Surely NostraDC, Zippy, Gomer or the capo di tutt'i capi of loonies Desh, have some ideas?

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ask the community its in


if they want it gone it should be gone

how about we make sure this history is in every childs history books


along with things like Greenwood Ok and japanese intermenmt
 
Any MLK statues and street signs out there?

Excerpts from Jacqueline Kennedy released by daughter Caroline in 2011...............

In the interviews, she also called civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. "terrible," "tricky" and "a phony."

"This book shows Jackie Kennedy unplugged," historian and CBS News analyst Douglas Brinkley told "Early Show" co-anchor Erica Hill Monday.

Jacqueline Kennedy spoke skeptically of King.

She called him "tricky" and a "phony" after hearing about FBI tapes of him and a woman in his hotel room, while noting that JFK had urged her not to be judgmental. (JFK's own adulterous affairs weren't yet widely known.)

She said King had mocked her husband's funeral and Cardinal Richard Cushing, who celebrated Mass at the funeral.

"He made fun of Cardinal Cushing and said that he was drunk at it," she said. "And things about they almost dropped the coffin. I just can't see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man's terrible."
 
The op asks a question like we're supposed to be torn between the soldier being black, and the slaughter of native Americans. What does the soldier being black have to do with anything?
 
The op asks a question like we're supposed to be torn between the soldier being black, and the slaughter of native Americans. What does the soldier being black have to do with anything?

Exactly. This is not a complicated issue, but I'm sure to an apologist for white supremacy it is very perplexing.
 
The op asks a question like we're supposed to be torn between the soldier being black, and the slaughter of native Americans. What does the soldier being black have to do with anything?
Simply that history is far more complex and nuanced than those fools toppling statues will ever know.
 
Unbeknownst to most Americans, Native Americans kept slaves. It wasn't the brutal demonic slavery of southerners, but slavery it was.

Many of the slaves inter-married with Native People as they recognized they both had a common enemy. They built lives and settlements together.

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A Comanche family in the early 1900s. The elder man is Ta-Ten-e-quer and his wife is Ta-Tat-ty. Their niece, center, is Wife-per, also known as Frances E. Wright. Her father was a Buffalo Soldier, an African American cavalryman, who married into the Comanches. Henry, center left, and Lorenzano, center right, are her sons. (Photo courtesy of Sam Devenney. Originally published by www.indiancountrytoday.com)

I could go on and on about the fascinating untold history of Native People and African-Americans .. and judging from what I'm reading here .. few here seem to know anything about it.

What do you do with the statue?

Who the fuck cares?

History is not a statue.
 
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The op asks a question like we're supposed to be torn between the soldier being black, and the slaughter of native Americans. What does the soldier being black have to do with anything?
Unfortunately, since our society has dissolved from civilized and reasonable to emotionally triggered and identity compartmentalized over the past few years, allllllllllllllll "offensive" objects and speech from the entire country must be removed in an attempt to quell the tears and tantrums of a small percentage of the populace. Also, unfortunate is that we all know that every time you relent to the wishes of a small child and hand over what he demands just to shut him up, the child learns that bad behavior gets rewarded with what he wants...he keeps doing it louder and longer in the future as his behavior is condoned.

So, while some of us sarcastically say "take'm all down" (which of course is wrong) there's no other solution until sane adults who are mayors, governors and Congress start acting like they care about the existence of the United States of America. I don't see evidence of that at this point.
 
Any MLK statues and street signs out there?

Excerpts from Jacqueline Kennedy released by daughter Caroline in 2011...............

In the interviews, she also called civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. "terrible," "tricky" and "a phony."

"This book shows Jackie Kennedy unplugged," historian and CBS News analyst Douglas Brinkley told "Early Show" co-anchor Erica Hill Monday.

Jacqueline Kennedy spoke skeptically of King.

She called him "tricky" and a "phony" after hearing about FBI tapes of him and a woman in his hotel room, while noting that JFK had urged her not to be judgmental. (JFK's own adulterous affairs weren't yet widely known.)

She said King had mocked her husband's funeral and Cardinal Richard Cushing, who celebrated Mass at the funeral.

"He made fun of Cardinal Cushing and said that he was drunk at it," she said. "And things about they almost dropped the coffin. I just can't see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man's terrible."

Why in god's name would anybody believe anything J. Edgar Hoover said? He was a bully, a sneak and a fruitcake.
 
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