What did Trump get in exchange for cease-fire?

Damocles said:
You are way too focused on the public exchanges that he uses to put pressure on them.

Vance went there, that is where negotiations are happening. I told you clearly from the beginning that nobody received anything at all and we won't know what they got for this "ceasefire" until we see what comes out of the negotiations. It is possible it will just be more war.

You, again, want him to end the "war" (conflict), but not to end the "war" (conflict) because you demand he escalate the way you want him to escalate because that was what you believe he said, but you didn't want him to say so, and said you didn't want him to escalate, so you want him to escalate because you want him to do what he said.... but you don't want him to do what he said.... You want him to stop the war, but don't want him to send Vance to negotiate to end the conflict.....

You cannot have it all seventeen (it isn't even "both" nowadays) ways. Leftists have spent so much time barfing opinions onto their own laps and demanding that their laps be cleaned they no longer know what they are "demanding" any longer.
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Ok, do we still know "what he got" other than a lie about progress in negotiations?
 
Jarod said:
So is this what happened:

Trump: If you do not agree with my demands, I’m going to bomb your bridges and power plants.

Iran: As we have been saying, all along, we are willing to negotiate. In fact, we were negotiating before you started bombing us, we remain willing to negotiate.

Trump:

Good enough for me, I’m Not going to go through with my threat.
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THIS
 
Jarod said:
But The PP's threat demanded an agreement.
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Even the Iranians know Trump is an empty suit; he bullies, bellows and bullshits but eventually goes away.

With the help of the MAGAt Congress, the Pedo President has destroyed the credibility of the United States as "a shining city on a hill". Now it's just another Trumpian slum.
 
Jarod said:
So you only want propaganda, I understand.

Propaganda is so powerful because it helps weak minds deal with their anxiety issues.
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Your kneejerk OP's are an example of one who is lost in their own TDS. Odd, we heard little negatives from you about the potato that resided in the WH for four years.
 
Jarod said:
Ok, do we still know "what he got" other than a lie about progress in negotiations?
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And we also know that I was right earlier when I stated that nobody "got" anything with the ceasefire other than negotiations in the same room and that we would know more after they were over and it may be that we may get "more war".

You "demanded" I tell you what "he" got, and I was accurate, you were not.

You suck at this, because you only have what you get in your talking points email and cannot analyze anything more complex than 2+3...
 
Jarod said:
Ok, do we still know "what he got" other than a lie about progress in negotiations?
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Trump started a war to the applause of all JPP MAGAts and now he can't win it. He's desperate to avoid looking like a loser.

By sending JD to do the negotiations, the Pedo President gave himself a small exit door to blame both JD and the Iranians for any failures to restore peace to the war zone he created.
 
Between the Middle East and Eastern Europe, it's almost beginning to look like another two-theater world war is inevitable.

Once Pigshit Trump is gone, the desire to restore our relations with NATO and stop Russian aggression will probably resume,
and on the other side of the fence, with our economy being strangled by blocked ocean routes,
the stronghold of isolationists opposing going to war with Islamic radicals will also be diminished.

This is my rare opportunity to be an optimist, however.

We've got much less to lose that we we did during the Cold War with civilization having since become a dumpster fire.
The Earth will probably become more fertile ground for future evolution
once the infection of the human species has been removed.

It's actually refreshing to look at the bright side for a change.:cool:
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Between the Middle East and Eastern Europe, it's almost beginning to look like another two-theater world war is inevitable.

Once Pigshit Trump is gone, the desire to restore our relations with NATO and stop Russian aggression will probably resume,
and on the other side of the fence, with our economy being strangled by blocked ocean routes,
the stronghold of isolationists opposing going to war with Islamic radicals will also be diminished.

This is my rare opportunity to be an optimist, however.

We've got much less to lose that we we did during the Cold War with civilization having since become a dumpster fire.
The Earth will probably become more fertile ground for future evolution
once the infection of the human species has been removed.

It's actually refreshing to look at the bright side for a change.:cool:
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Regional wars are one thing, but in the modern age, another world war will be very, very bad for everybody. Consider how Trump's war in Iran is fucking up the global economy for a peek of what a world war would look like.

FWIW, I saw on the Sunday morning shows that it wasn't just Israel asking Trump to start a war with Iran, but also Saudi Arabia. This might explain why the Arab Gulf states aren't bitching to the high moon about the consequences.
 
Damocles said:
And we also know that I was right earlier when I stated that nobody "got" anything with the ceasefire other than negotiations in the same room and that we would know more after they were over and it may be that we may get "more war".

You "demanded" I tell you what "he" got, and I was accurate, you were not.

You suck at this, because you only have what you get in your talking points email and cannot analyze anything more complex than 2+3...
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So why did The PP back down from his threat? He demanded agreement or else...
 
Dutch Uncle said:
True, but not the optimal outcome for humanity. For those who seek to end their troubles, I suggest a single-shot pistol*, a handful of fentanyl or a bottle of booze, a warm bath and a razor blade.


*Can be ordered through the mail or purchased in a store without a background check. https://muzzle-loaders.com/collecti...-kentucky-pistol-kit-45-cal-percussion-kp5065
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I already own a Colt 1911 Commander and a Ruger Super Blackhawk.
I don't need to use them and void my life insurance!!!:cool:
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I already own a Colt 1911 Commander and a Ruger Super Blackhawk.
I don't need to use them and void my life insurance!!!:cool:
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"Accidents" happen.

OTOH, leaving a mess for others to clean up is impolite. In your area, renting a boat to go "fishing" and a body never found leaves doubt. Just don't leave any blood in the boat.

My Plan A is a walk on a mountaintop deep in the woods, facing west at sunset with a handful of pills on a cold night. I'd bring my 1911A1 for self-defense and Plan B. LOL

Obviously that's a last resort. Kinda like Marine leaders who call in artillery fire on their own position when being overrun by the enemy.

If in poor health, another plan is simply drugged/drunk driving off a cliff. Oops. Terrible accident. :)

Why people are afraid of dying when in severe pain is odd to me. It strikes me as a fundamental fear of facing judgment to fear death when the outlook is hopeless and full of pain.
 
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