What did Trump get in exchange for cease-fire?

Jarod said:
I do not know how often I have to say it, but I am very glad The PP has stopped the war. That is not what this is about.

The guy is ALWAYS lying and putting on a show. Many here fall for it. This is the most recent and maybe the biggest example, so yes, I want to point it out and see if I can figure out how his supporters think.

1) The PP issued a list of demands (did not really share with specificity) but one of the demands was to open Hormuz.

2) He said that if Iran did not agree with those demands he was going to rein hell on the entire nation, the likes of which have never been seen. This threat cause great anguish to many people in the region.

3) At the last second, he said they were discussing things (something he said a month ago and two weeks ago) and thus he was not going ahead with the reign of terror he threatened. (again, I am glad he backed down) Hormuz is still closed, and now they are charging for any small number of boats that they do allow through.

My point is that this type of circus tells the world we are not to be taken seriously, and our president's threats do not mean much. Additionally I want to understand the people who fall for it. They believe he has accomplished something. The truth is he needed to get this thing over because the walls were closing in. He made a mess and presents it as a polished trophy, and these dipshits fall for it. When confronted with the truth, they do anything they can to avoid discussing it, while claiming they are discussing it.

Now do you understand?
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You are way too focused on the public exchanges that he uses to put pressure on them.

Vance went there, that is where negotiations are happening. I told you clearly from the beginning that nobody received anything at all and we won't know what they got for this "ceasefire" until we see what comes out of the negotiations. It is possible it will just be more war.

You, again, want him to end the "war" (conflict), but not to end the "war" (conflict) because you demand he escalate the way you want him to escalate because that was what you believe he said, but you didn't want him to say so, and said you didn't want him to escalate, so you want him to escalate because you want him to do what he said.... but you don't want him to do what he said.... You want him to stop the war, but don't want him to send Vance to negotiate to end the conflict.....

You cannot have it all seventeen (it isn't even "both" nowadays) ways. Leftists have spent so much time barfing opinions onto their own laps and demanding that their laps be cleaned they no longer know what they are "demanding" any longer.
 
Damocles said:
You are way too focused on the public exchanges that he uses to put pressure on them.

Vance went there, that is where negotiations are happening. I told you clearly from the beginning that nobody received anything at all and we won't know what they got for this "ceasefire" until we see what comes out of the negotiations. It is possible it will just be more war.

You, again, want him to end the "war" (conflict), but not to end the "war" (conflict) because you demand he escalate the way you want him to escalate because that was what you believe he said, but you didn't want him to say so, and said you didn't want him to escalate, so you want him to escalate because you want him to do what he said.... but you don't want him to do what he said.... You want him to stop the war, but don't want him to send Vance to negotiate to end the conflict.....

You cannot have it all seventeen (it isn't even "both" nowadays) ways. Leftists have spent so much time barfing opinions onto their own laps and demanding that their laps be cleaned they no longer know what they are "demanding" any longer.
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What a brilliant response. You nailed it completely.

To sum up, Jarod is nothing but a garden variety troll who probably doesn't believe 95% of the BS he posts
 
Damocles said:
You are way too focused on the public exchanges that he uses to put pressure on them.

Vance went there, that is where negotiations are happening. I told you clearly from the beginning that nobody received anything at all and we won't know what they got for this "ceasefire" until we see what comes out of the negotiations. It is possible it will just be more war.

You, again, want him to end the "war" (conflict), but not to end the "war" (conflict) because you demand he escalate the way you want him to escalate because that was what you believe he said, but you didn't want him to say so, and said you didn't want him to escalate, so you want him to escalate because you want him to do what he said.... but you don't want him to do what he said.... You want him to stop the war, but don't want him to send Vance to negotiate to end the conflict.....

You cannot have it all seventeen (it isn't even "both" nowadays) ways. Leftists have spent so much time barfing opinions onto their own laps and demanding that their laps be cleaned they no longer know what they are "demanding" any longer.
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I want everybody to see that what he said was a lie, and an irresponsible threat that he was not prepared to carry out.

Such things cause harm to our nation. If negotiation still has to happen before we know what he got for withdrawing the threat, then he didn’t get anything before withdrawing the threat. They clearly called his bluff.

It was a dangerous threat that he never intended to carry out and should never have happened.

I’m glad the war is likely over, I’m angry about the threat. They were negotiating two weeks ago, and four weeks ago, both times Trump extended the deadline. It’s clear there is no deadline. The man simply lies.
 
Jarod said:
I want everybody to see that what he said was a lie, and an irresponsible threat that he was not prepared to carry out.

Such things cause harm to our nation. If negotiation still has to happen before we know what he got for withdrawing the threat, then he didn’t get anything before withdrawing the threat. They clearly called his bluff.

It was a dangerous threat that he never intended to carry out and should never have happened.

I’m glad the war is likely over, I’m angry about the threat. They were negotiating two weeks ago, and four weeks ago, both times Trump extended the deadline. It’s clear there is no deadline. The man simply lies.
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MAGAts will always defend their daddy for exactly the same shit they accuse "Braindead" of doing. It's very telling.
 
Jarod said:
I want everybody to see that what he said was a lie, and an irresponsible threat that he was not prepared to carry out.

Such things cause harm to our nation. If negotiation still has to happen before we know what he got for withdrawing the threat, then he didn’t get anything before withdrawing the threat. They clearly called his bluff.

It was a dangerous threat that he never intended to carry out and should never have happened.

I’m glad the war is likely over, I’m angry about the threat. They were negotiating two weeks ago, and four weeks ago, both times Trump extended the deadline. It’s clear there is no deadline. The man simply lies.
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No, what you want is him to do what you want him to, unless of course he does that then you will find a way to make that bad too. What you want to do is make sure everyone knows how unhappy you are, even when he does what you want him to do.
 
Damocles said:
You are way too focused on the public exchanges that he uses to put pressure on them.

Vance went there, that is where negotiations are happening. I told you clearly from the beginning that nobody received anything at all and we won't know what they got for this "ceasefire" until we see what comes out of the negotiations. It is possible it will just be more war.

You, again, want him to end the "war" (conflict), but not to end the "war" (conflict) because you demand he escalate the way you want him to escalate because that was what you believe he said, but you didn't want him to say so, and said you didn't want him to escalate, so you want him to escalate because you want him to do what he said.... but you don't want him to do what he said.... You want him to stop the war, but don't want him to send Vance to negotiate to end the conflict.....

You cannot have it all seventeen (it isn't even "both" nowadays) ways. Leftists have spent so much time barfing opinions onto their own laps and demanding that their laps be cleaned they no longer know what they are "demanding" any longer.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/2042203369452814612
View: https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/2042203369452814612?s=46


This guy explains it better.
 
Jarod said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2042203369452814612
View: https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/2042203369452814612?s=46


This guy explains it better.
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I'm sure he aligns with your "opinion" well, and it changes nothing about what I have said here.

Trump could cure cancer, and Jarod would immediately object to it for taking away his right to die from cancer....

I don't think there is anything that Trump could do that would make you say anything other than "he's bad mmm'kay"...

We get it, you don't like him. This is becoming repetitive... So, I'll let you go on wit' your bad self....
 
Damocles said:
I'm sure he aligns with your "opinion" well, and it changes nothing about what I have said here.

Trump could cure cancer, and Jarod would immediately object to it for taking away his right to die from cancer....

I don't think there is anything that Trump could do that would make you say anything other than "he's bad mmm'kay"...

We get it, you don't like him. This is becoming repetitive... So, I'll let you go on wit' your bad self....
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Trump could rape a girl then murder on camera and MAGAts would defend him. See how that works, Damocletus?

I'd be impressed if Trump would stop taking bribes, stop violating the Constitution, stop being a greedy person more focused upon money than abiding by his oath of office.

Time until some MAGA moron says "Biden": 10...9...8...
 
Damocles said:
I'm sure he aligns with your "opinion" well, and it changes nothing about what I have said here.

Trump could cure cancer, and Jarod would immediately object to it for taking away his right to die from cancer....

I don't think there is anything that Trump could do that would make you say anything other than "he's bad mmm'kay"...

We get it, you don't like him. This is becoming repetitive... So, I'll let you go on wit' your bad self....
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There are three….

1) criminal justice reform.
2) firing Pam Bondi
3) I can’t remember the third right now, but I know there are three.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Trump could rape a girl then murder on camera and MAGAts would defend him. See how that works, Damocletus?

I'd be impressed if Trump would stop taking bribes, stop violating the Constitution, stop being a greedy person more focused upon money than abiding by his oath of office.

Time until some MAGA moron says "Biden": 10...9...8...
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God all frigging mighty man give it up. You are becomming very Mr. Tiny Penis like in your repetive blathering.
I'm beginning to think you don't like your president.
 
Jarod said:
I want everybody to see that what he said was a lie, and an irresponsible threat that he was not prepared to carry out.

Such things cause harm to our nation. If negotiation still has to happen before we know what he got for withdrawing the threat, then he didn’t get anything before withdrawing the threat. They clearly called his bluff.

It was a dangerous threat that he never intended to carry out and should never have happened.

I’m glad the war is likely over, I’m angry about the threat. They were negotiating two weeks ago, and four weeks ago, both times Trump extended the deadline. It’s clear there is no deadline. The man simply lies.
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How do you know he never intended to carry it out? How do you know what is happening behind the scenes?

You aren’t angry about the threat. Without it, you would have less to come here and ahitpost about.

You constantly come here with your “gotcha” questions based on cherry picked information.

Be honest, in this situation with Iran who has the leverage militarily? The US or Iran. The Iran military has been seriously degraded. If Trump decided to take the Strait of Hormuz who is going to stop him?

You don’t have a strategic bone in your body. In the last year, Trump has taken over two major suppliers of Chinas oil. That is VERY strategic.

But you keep running around the board with your shit posts, gotcha questions and faux indignation. The rest of us will just laugh at you.

Maybe you should take your kids to Disney World like you did after the hurricane and people were suffering. Might take the edge off for you.

BTW you never answered the question about why Obama would need to prevent Iran from doing something you said they were incapable of doing. The question isn’t going away Veruca.

Have a nice day
 
Teflon Don said:
How do you know he never intended to carry it out? How do you know what is happening behind the scenes?

You aren’t angry about the threat. Without it, you would have less to come here and ahitpost about.

You constantly come here with your “gotcha” questions based on cherry picked information.

Be honest, in this situation with Iran who has the leverage militarily? The US or Iran. The Iran military has been seriously degraded. If Trump decided to take the Strait of Hormuz who is going to stop him?

You don’t have a strategic bone in your body. In the last year, Trump has taken over two major suppliers of Chinas oil. That is VERY strategic.

But you keep running around the board with your shit posts, gotcha questions and faux indignation. The rest of us will just laugh at you.

Maybe you should take your kids to Disney World like you did after the hurricane and people were suffering. Might take the edge off for you.

BTW you never answered the question about why Obama would need to prevent Iran from doing something you said they were incapable of doing. The question isn’t going away Veruca.

Have a nice day
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Anyone who plays poker knows that bluffing should be used sparingly. Trump is known to bluff, bluster and bully but ultimately turns into TACO or President "Two Weeks" when facing those who see through him.

He's an example of ineffective leadership.
 
Teflon Don said:
How do you know he never intended to carry it out? How do you know what is happening behind the scenes?

You aren’t angry about the threat. Without it, you would have less to come here and ahitpost about.

You constantly come here with your “gotcha” questions based on cherry picked information.

Be honest, in this situation with Iran who has the leverage militarily? The US or Iran. The Iran military has been seriously degraded. If Trump decided to take the Strait of Hormuz who is going to stop him?

You don’t have a strategic bone in your body. In the last year, Trump has taken over two major suppliers of Chinas oil. That is VERY strategic.

But you keep running around the board with your shit posts, gotcha questions and faux indignation. The rest of us will just laugh at you.

Maybe you should take your kids to Disney World like you did after the hurricane and people were suffering. Might take the edge off for you.

BTW you never answered the question about why Obama would need to prevent Iran from doing something you said they were incapable of doing. The question isn’t going away Veruca.

Have a nice day
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Obama stopped them from working on the means to further enrich uranium.
 
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Teflon Don said:
And you will go on to trolling incessantly about some other topic as if you know what you are talking about when you don’t.

A minute ago you had boots on the ground in Iran.

Things are fluid. It isn’t over yet. Relax Veruca
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Yeah, yeah. It isn't over? Didn't you hear? Trump and Kegsbreath have both said "we've won" several times.

You don't know shit, butt-spray. Shut the fuck up.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Iran: 0
U.S.: -13
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Iran: up to 168 school girls 7 to 12 years old.

Trump is a war criminal and not the first time he's abused young girls.

www.theguardian.com

Minab school bombing: how the worst mass casualty event of the Iran war unfolded – a visual guide

A strike on Shajareh Tayyebeh school during the US-Israeli bombing campaign killed up to 168 people. The Guardian has pieced together the incident and its aftermath using verified footage and images from the site
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Against one burned-out wall, the remains of a playground lie scattered: a red plastic slide, a jumble of child-sized chairs. On an overturned bookshelf a pair of pink plastic sandals have been neatly placed, now covered in dust from the blast.

The missile hit during the school’s morning session. In Iran, the school week runs from Saturday to Thursday, so when US and Israeli bombs began falling at around 10am on Saturday, classes were under way. At a point between 10am and 10.45am, a missile directly hit Shajareh Tayyebeh school, in Minab, southern Iran, demolishing its concrete building and killing dozens of seven to 12-year-old girls.
 
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