Westboro Baptist Church punked at their own game by a 5 YO

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I'm truly sorry. The point I've been trying to make is that some people who are against abortion change their tune when it affects them personally on the deepest level.

Your angst was no different than anyone else's considering the issue. Could it be that every child's fate, even those aborted, are the "will of God"?

This is where we will differ for good or bad, I don't think so[/QUOTE]

i too am sorry for what happened to you and your wife.

however, there are more spontaneous abortions than man made abortions. who is to say that not all of them are 'the will of god' or part of god's plan to teach and/or test us

or maybe it is nature's plan as there are certainly a lot of us and more of us every day...despite all the efforts of the four horsemen of the apocalypse
 
This is where we will differ for good or bad, I don't think so

i too am sorry for what happened to you and your wife.

however, there are more spontaneous abortions than man made abortions. who is to say that not all of them are 'the will of god' or part of god's plan to teach and/or test us

or maybe it is nature's plan as there are certainly a lot of us and more of us every day...despite all the efforts of the four horsemen of the apocalypse[/QUOTE]

So if it's Nature, or God, shouldn't we let God decide? Since i believe in him, and that he is the creator, one would think he knows best, I believe that. Why do we feel the need to play God
 
i too am sorry for what happened to you and your wife.

however, there are more spontaneous abortions than man made abortions. who is to say that not all of them are 'the will of god' or part of god's plan to teach and/or test us

or maybe it is nature's plan as there are certainly a lot of us and more of us every day...despite all the efforts of the four horsemen of the apocalypse

So if it's Nature, or God, shouldn't we let God decide? Since i believe in him, and that he is the creator, one would think he knows best, I believe that. Why do we feel the need to play God[/QUOTE]

since i do not believe in your god, we cannot reach agreement on this subject
 
So if it's Nature, or God, shouldn't we let God decide? Since i believe in him, and that he is the creator, one would think he knows best, I believe that. Why do we feel the need to play God

since i do not believe in your god, we cannot reach agreement on this subject[/QUOTE]

So if nature is taking care of it, shouldn't we let nature take it's course and not intercede.
 
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I'm truly sorry. The point I've been trying to make is that some people who are against abortion change their tune when it affects them personally on the deepest level.

Your angst was no different than anyone else's considering the issue. Could it be that every child's fate, even those aborted, are the "will of God"?

This is where we will differ for good or bad, I don't think so
That's true on many political issues. I bet a whole lot of people would change their mind about the Affordable Care Act (aka, Obamacare) if that's was the only thing that stood between them and bankruptcy or being denied coverage for a serious illness.
 
no offense, But I would punch that 5 year old in the face too. Nothing is more infuriating than a 5 year old pretending they have any clue about anything. I resent them being propaganda tools for any purpose.

Perhaps perhaps ou should step away from Lucy's lemonade stand and visit her psychiatric advice stand. It's only a quarter. :)
 
since i do not believe in your god, we cannot reach agreement on this subject

So if nature is taking care of it, shouldn't we let nature take it's course and not intercede.[/QUOTE]

and what of free will or do you believe in predestination?

besides, are we not part of nature? it is for each of us to decide how we should live our lives. free will involves personal responsibility.
 
That was my wife, but no abortion, child was not going to live outside the womb, God had already decided the fate of my daughter, and in rare cases like this, I have said I support the rights of the family to decide what to do, my daughter would have lived less than 30 min. there was also a slim chance a miscarriage could have killed my wife due to a certain heart condition.
Dr are wrong all the time baby killer!
 
What makes you special asshole, you run around here calling woman having abortions murders.
Hypocrite much
Moron

Again, my daughter had no chance of life outside the womb, she had no skull covering her brain above the chin, they did a high depth ultra sound, women who abort their perfectly formed babies in the womb are in my eyes murderers.
 
You murdered your baby in gods eyes for the easy way out!
Baby killer
Whatever you say chief! I hope when you arrive at the gates of hell this moment flashes before your eyes, and God says to me go ahead have at em, I know it's not how God would react so neither will I. know this you are the worst kind of scum imaginable on earth you are like the stuff that gets between your toes when you step in the bottom of a pond. My Daughter is in Heaven laughing, and playing, and I will see her again. This Earth, your bong, and your humanist secularism is the only heaven you will ever see.
 
Whatever you say chief! I hope when you arrive at the gates of hell this moment flashes before your eyes, and God says to me go ahead have at em, I know it's not how God would react so neither will I. know this you are the worst kind of scum imaginable on earth you are like the stuff that gets between your toes when you step in the bottom of a pond. My Daughter is in Heaven laughing, and playing, and I will see her again. This Earth, your bong, and your humanist secularism is the only heaven you will ever see.
Wait you murdered your baby and you know gods giving you a pass!
But I pointed out your hypocrisy so that makes me scum. Fucking baby killer
M-Kay
 
Again, my daughter had no chance of life outside the womb, she had no skull covering her brain above the chin, they did a high depth ultra sound, women who abort their perfectly formed babies in the womb are in my eyes murderers.

Patriot, while I deplore Dude's comments to you, and I feel very sympathetic toward your tragedy, I am sorry that you cannot extend similar sympathy to other women who make the decision to have an abortion. That you cannot extend your situation to others and understand that they might have a reason to have an abortion - that is sad. Please, have charity toward others, the same charity you expect toward yourself.

I wish you and your wife all the best in the future.
 
Patriot, while I deplore Dude's comments to you, and I feel very sympathetic toward your tragedy, I am sorry that you cannot extend similar sympathy to other women who make the decision to have an abortion. That you cannot extend your situation to others and understand that they might have a reason to have an abortion - that is sad. Please, have charity toward others, the same charity you expect toward yourself.

I wish you and your wife all the best in the future.
That's my point. This asshole doesn't know anybody else's situation but insist on calling those woman murderers.
He doesn't like the taste of his own bile.
 
Patriot, while I deplore Dude's comments to you, and I feel very sympathetic toward your tragedy, I am sorry that you cannot extend similar sympathy to other women who make the decision to have an abortion. That you cannot extend your situation to others and understand that they might have a reason to have an abortion - that is sad. Please, have charity toward others, the same charity you expect toward yourself.

I wish you and your wife all the best in the future.

I do not think the situations ar anywhere close to being similar, killing a perfectly forming baby in the womb in most cases is about convenience, but I appreciate you kindness.
I realize in some cases it is hard for women to make the decision, but in some cases it's just callous, and convenience while in the hospital a young college student who just had an abortion was talking about how now she didn't have to worry about parting anymore, and planned on partying that night. I have some experience in this. I do not think all are like this. Thanks for your advice I will try to be more sympahtetic.
 
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