We'll regret not caring more about the planet

[BartenderElite]

I try to start a meaningful, non-partisan discussion about humanity's future - and I'm called a piece of shit for not giving up electricity and giving up my computer, and compared to a murderous lunatic.

Go, righties.

 

[cancel2 2022]

And that's 100% truth. Future generations will look back & lament how this wasn't out #1 priority. They'll talk about how the warning signs were all around us, and we just ignored them: mass extinction, loss of habitat, droughts, storms, polar melt. They'll ask how we could have possibly thought any of this was sustainable. They'll think we were shortsighted, and stupid.

Most of all, they'll wonder how in the world it all became so political, so fast. How it could have possibly been a right/left thing, when all of us have a stake in the outcome.

Our future won't be pleasant. It may (or may not) be survivable - but it's all very predictable right now. And all of the other issues that we debate here, day in & day out? Pretty meaningless if we don't take care of our home.

Emotional fact free bullshit, stop listening to Jim and Jack.

 

[BartenderElite]

Emotional fact free bullshit, stop listening to Jim and Jack.

What is NOT a fact? Are we not in the middle of a mass extinction? Are we not losing habitat?

You just can't relate to it because I didn't cut & paste anything.

 

[cancel2 2022]

I've brought up this issue from different angles about a dozen times on this board. It's meant to be a non-partisan discussion. I'm not blaming any ideology.

But conservative responses are always exactly the same.

You've proved time and time again that you're an emotional bedwetter, they estimate that the internet uses up to 10% of the world's electricity, pull the plug!!

 

[BartenderElite]

You've proved time and time again that you're an emotional bedwetter, they estimate that the internet uses up to 10% of the world's electricity, pull the plug!!

Predictable contribution from the cut & paster.

 

[cancel2 2022]

What is NOT a fact? Are we not in the middle of a mass extinction? Are we not losing habitat?

You just can't relate to it because I didn't cut & paste anything.

Those are caused by over population but you choose instead to decide between a horse and a camel by looking up their arses.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Ted Kaczynski had a lot of important things to say, but we as a society were not interesting in listening.

A modern society cannot live in what amounts to a shed in the woods and devoid of virtually all infrastructure.

 

[BartenderElite]

Those are caused by over population but you choose instead to decide between a horse and a camel by looking up their arses.

LOL - I said later in the thread that population was the biggest issue.

You're really batting 1,000 here.

 

[cancel2 2022]

LOL - I said later in the thread that population was the biggest issue.

You're really batting 1,000 here.

Well done, so you ought to be directing your ire at the Pope and Islamists then.

 

[BartenderElite]

Well done, so you ought to be directing your ire at the Pope and Islamists then.

This isn't an "ire" thread. Just tried to start a non-partisan chat.

But noooooooooo.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Next time, righties don't even have to respond - I know all of your responses by heart.

Now he's resorted to throwing his toys out of the pram.

 

[cawacko]

It's actually impossible. The people who make decisions are politicians. Politicians are about appearance, not substance. They'll pass "token" measures, but nothing that will have an impact.

Kyoto was almost impossible - but even if every country adhered to it, it wouldn't amount to much.

We're sort of programmed to not react until the worst is upon us.

What’s your take on a carbon tax replacing some of our current climate policies?

 

[Hawkeye10]

A modern society cannot live in what amounts to a shed in the woods and devoid of virtually all infrastructure.

Ted Kaczynski had a lot of important things to say, but we as a society were not interesting in listening.

 

[Sailor]

I'm a conservationist. I live my life as minimally as I can. Hope that's okay.

Obviously not if you are here posting. Walk the walk or just pipe the fuck down.

 

[Stone]

Why?

In the long run it was good on my wallet.

 

[Althea]

In the long run it was good on my wallet.

In large part due to govt. subsidies. Should we continue to fund alternatives?

 

[ExpressLane]

I am opposed to illegal immigration.

Next?

If you don't care about the planet, this thread isn't for you.

Why are you a Democrat then.

 

[ExpressLane]

I mean...what can one say to this?

Conservatives have become way too predictable on this issue. Be proud of how well your arguments will stand up a century from now.

Do you drive a fossil fuel car?

 

[Stone]

In large part due to govt. subsidies. Should we continue to fund alternatives?

Bullshit. I payed every dime of it myself.

 

[Walt]

Bullshit. I payed every dime of it myself.

You mean your family does.