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SlaveForChrist said:
I did omit it as it is a prefatory clause and as such the rest of it is not dependant on its existence. it is presented as a prefatory clause as it is one reason out of many why the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

perhaps you should take your own advice you sad little cunt
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No prefatory clause.
 
archives said:
You got to be reading NRA publications,
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Police records are not NRA publications.
archives said:
in reality, there were over 40,000 Americans killed by guns last year,
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Argument from randU fallacy. 2024 figures have not been compiled yet. Stop making shit up.
archives said:
approximately 118 a day, to include over 16,000 gun homicides. In addition, we had 568 mass shootings and 349 school shootings. In some States, more people die from guns than auto accidents. And guns is the leading cause of deaths of Americans 24 and under. Keep in mind, those are preventable deaths
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Argument from randU fallacies. Making up numbers and using them as 'data' won't work, anchovies.
archives said:
We do have a gun problem,
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Not a problem, unless you try to attack someone with a gun.
archives said:
a big problem,
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Not a problem, unless you try to attack someone with a gun.
archives said:
and if more guns kept people safe, given we now have more guns out there than people, America would be the safest developed nation in the world,
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And it pretty much is. The United States enjoys one of the lowest homicide rates in the world. (source: CIA factbook)
archives said:
it’s not, now 47th, right ahead of Costa Rico and Jordan
(https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/safe)
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Argument from randU fallacy. US News is not a valid source.
 
WinterBorn said:
The only way you get 40k gun deaths is if you include suicides. And that number would be more than half of the total.

The ONLY thing you know about any gun suicide is that they truly wanted to die. And if someone truly wants to die, taking away the gun will not change a thing.
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He's making shit up. He does that. He makes up numbers and tries to use them as 'data' all the time.
 
Tobytone said:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is not hard for most people to understand.
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Very true. The 2nd amendment discusses two related rights (both the inherent right of self defense), and bars any government from infringing on either one.
1) The right of a State to defend itself. Every State has the right to defend it's own borders by calling out a Militia (an army, commanded by the State governor).
2) The right of an individual (the People) to defend themselves, their loved ones, the innocent, their property, etc.

The use of 'Arms' does NOT designate any particular weapon. ANY weapon may be used. Even an animal has the right of self defense, using all the means it has available to it. The right of self defense is inherent. The 2nd amendment specifically prohibits the Federal and State governments from infringing on this right.

Tobytone said:
You and other simpleton libtard drones can seem to get it. How dumb do you have to be to not understand the words and intent of a very short Amendment?
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They want to ignore it. Remember that these libtards hate the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.
Tobytone said:
Oh, I thought I'd help you out with your grammar. I noticed a few problems so I enlisted Grok to pin them down for your benefit, I even added to period at the end for you. I haven't checked my own out, I'm sure there are issues, I just don't really care as much as you do.
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He doesn't know English.
Tobytone said:
Here are the grammatical errors in the given sentence: The wording of the First Amendments and Second Amendment are totally different, one is direct, the other bifurcate, you know coma’s have a purpose in the English language.

  1. Amendments should be singular to match the context (referring to one amendment at a time): "The wording of the First Amendment and Second Amendment..."
  2. Second Amendment should not be capitalized in the middle of the sentence unless it's part of a proper noun or title, which here it isn't necessary: "the Second Amendment".
  3. are should be "is" because the subject is singular when referring to each amendment separately: "The wording of the First Amendment and the Second Amendment is..."
  4. bifurcate should be in its adjectival form "bifurcated" if you're describing the amendment: "the other is bifurcated..." or better yet, use a more common adjective like "complex" or "divided".
  5. you know is colloquial and not necessary for formal writing, but if included, should be followed by a comma: "you know, commas..."
  6. coma’s is misspelled; it should be "commas". Also, the apostrophe is used incorrectly for pluralization; it should be "commas" without the apostrophe.
  7. have a purpose is correct, but the sentence structure could be improved for clarity. Consider: "you know, commas have a purpose in the English language."
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Nice list. Seems relatively complete. Nice job!
 
Into the Night said:
Very true. The 2nd amendment discusses two related rights (both the inherent right of self defense), and bars any government from infringing on either one.
1) The right of a State to defend itself. Every State has the right to defend it's own borders by calling out a Militia (an army, commanded by the State governor).
2) The right of an individual (the People) to defend themselves, their loved ones, the innocent, their property, etc.

The use of 'Arms' does NOT designate any particular weapon. ANY weapon may be used. Even an animal has the right of self defense, using all the means it has available to it. The right of self defense is inherent. The 2nd amendment specifically prohibits the Federal and State governments from infringing on this right.


They want to ignore it. Remember that these libtards hate the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.

He doesn't know English.

Nice list. Seems relatively complete. Nice job!
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All true, it has always amazed me that any elected official has the balls to openly attempt to infringe on our right to bear arms considering the oath they all take to support and defend the Constitution. Don't they break that oath the minute they promote any action that infringes on our right to bare arms?

The grammar corrections are from Grok, lol. Grammar was a constant source of point deductions on my english papers. I had never commented on grammatical errors by anyone including libtards, until dipshit mentioned my liberal use of commas, and I've had many opportunities to do so. I think it's petty and only distracts from whatever point is being made.
 
Into the Night said:
Police records are not NRA publications.

Argument from randU fallacy. 2024 figures have not been compiled yet. Stop making shit up.

Argument from randU fallacies. Making up numbers and using them as 'data' won't work, anchovies.

Not a problem, unless you try to attack someone with a gun.

Not a problem, unless you try to attack someone with a gun.

And it pretty much is. The United States enjoys one of the lowest homicide rates in the world. (source: CIA factbook)

Argument from randU fallacy. US News is not a valid source.
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Responding accordingly:

What records

Enough have

Try Google

40,000+ prove you wrong

Yeah, if you add in the likes of Syria

Genetic fallacy, and that ain’t via Google
 
Into the Night said:
Very true. The 2nd amendment discusses two related rights (both the inherent right of self defense), and bars any government from infringing on either one.
1) The right of a State to defend itself. Every State has the right to defend it's own borders by calling out a Militia (an army, commanded by the State governor).
2) The right of an individual (the People) to defend themselves, their loved ones, the innocent, their property, etc.

The use of 'Arms' does NOT designate any particular weapon. ANY weapon may be used. Even an animal has the right of self defense, using all the means it has available to it. The right of self defense is inherent. The 2nd amendment specifically prohibits the Federal and State governments from infringing on this right.


They want to ignore it. Remember that these libtards hate the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.

He doesn't know English.

Nice list. Seems relatively complete. Nice job!
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Wrong, even Scalia’s logic proves you wrong
 
Tobytone said:
All true, it has always amazed me that any elected official has the balls to openly attempt to infringe on our right to bear arms considering the oath they all take to support and defend the Constitution. Don't they break that oath the minute they promote any action that infringes on our right to bare arms?
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Yes. The oath doesn't mean anything to them. It's just empty words to recite.
Tobytone said:
The grammar corrections are from Grok, lol. Grammar was a constant source of point deductions on my english papers. I had never commented on grammatical errors by anyone including libtards, until dipshit mentioned my liberal use of commas, and I've had many opportunities to do so. I think it's petty and only distracts from whatever point is being made.
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Heh. Unfortunately, when you let something like Grok or ChatGPT do your thinking for you, you never know when it's wrong! In this case, though, it seems to be pretty accurate (which is much of the time!).

Just a minor side note, 'English' is a proper noun and should be capitalized. I really don't care about comma misuse much. The written word has a cadence like music, and commas in the wrong place (or missing) tends to interrupt the cadence, but that's about it. For some people it can really grate on their nerves. As for me...meh.

His claim that a comma changes the meaning of an amendment is completely wrong. Commas or the lack of them don't change the meaning of any sentence.

The 2nd amendment discusses two related rights. The right of State to defend itself using Militias (an army), and the right of the individual to defend himself. his family, his community, and the State by using any and all weapons. Both of these rights are inherent simply because we are human beings. The 2nd amendment prohibits government from attempting to mess with this right. It applies to both the Federal and State governments.

Each State also has language in it's own constitution concerning the right of self defense.

If a State forms a Militia, it also provides arms and training for that Militia.
 
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Just a minor side note, 'English' is a proper noun and should be capitalized. I really don't care about comma misuse much. The written word has a cadence like music, and commas in the wrong place (or missing) tends to interrupt the cadence, but that's about it. For some people it can really grate on their nerves. As for me...meh.
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Agree with the entire comment and I got a good laugh at the capitalization infraction. LOL I always sucked at that too. That said, those that fatten my bank account have never deducted any money for that, so I find a way to cope with that shortcoming.
 
Into the Night said:
You are still hallucinating, Sybil. He is not your son.

You ARE a little pissant that slings insults on the internet while hiding behind your anonymous keyboard, Sybil!
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^^^
My son claims to be telekinetic. I'm worried about him.

He's angry too. Maybe even violent towards his mom. A beautiful woman. Sad.
 
Tobytone said:
Agree with the entire comment and I got a good laugh at the capitalization infraction. LOL I always sucked at that too. That said, those that fatten my bank account have never deducted any money for that, so I find a way to cope with that shortcoming.
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Nothin' wrong with that!
Believe me, you are far ahead of these libtards that don't know any English.
 
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