“We should elect the president the way we elect governors, senators, mayors, represen

BartenderElite said:
It's just incorrect to argue that less populated states "won't have a say" in Presidential elections without the electoral.
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No, it's moronic to utter such simplistic nonsense that they would have a say.

BartenderElite said:
People there will have 1 vote. People in cities will have 1 vote. Everyone gets an equal say. Basic math.
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New York and California contain more voters than around twenty Midwest states. Do the math dipshit. :palm:
 
Truth Detector said:
No, it's moronic to utter such simplistic nonsense that they would have a say.



New York and California contain more voters than around twenty Midwest states. Do the math dipshit. :palm:
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PEOPLE NOT FUCKING LAND IDIOT


TRY READING THE CONSTITUTION SHIT FOR BRAINS
 
BartenderElite said:
States aren't people. States are just lines and borders.

The Senate, w/ the House, sets most of the policy in the U.S. Rural constituents get a completely disproportionate say in that policy w/ the Senate. That's our system, so that's how it is - but the idea that voters in less populated states won't be heard if we move to a popular vote is just wrong.

I mean, look at SCOTUS. It's as right-wing as a body can get. Completely out of step w/ the mainstream. Right now, our gov't is much more conservative than its people.
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So sad that so many Americans lack the basic education of how we are formed and what a Republic means. You should read my Constitutional lessons series.
 
Phantasmal said:
I am saying that in the matters we addressed, the rights of the majority aren’t being represented. The will of the people aren’t being served. Oppression of human beings is an entirely different matter
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The will of the people are served in their states. Most of the issues you claim are not Constitutional issues. They are state issues.
 
BartenderElite said:
When towns elect a mayor - is it "mob rule?"

Of course not. It's just the people, electing a leader. Calling it "mob rule" makes it sound unfair. We're a gov't by the people. Going w/ a popular vote outcome would be in keeping w/ the ideas of many of our founders, who believed in that but made concessions for the slave states.
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Your complete lack of knowledge and ignorance about our Republic and Constitution are remarkable. :palm:
 
Every single election, from senator to dog catcher is determined by who gets the most votes. School board, most votes.Union leaders, most votes. The most powerful office on the planet, not the most votes. There is no logical justification. There have been attempts in the past to dump the electoral college. It is an anachronism that is way past its time. The reason it was installed is long gone. Let's grow up and fix what is broken.
 
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