We Need More Knees To Criminals Necks.

[Walt]

Ho wolly shit! Are you kidding?! In the picture that shows the video, that is a big cop with his knee on a smaller cops's neck. By the looks of it, his knee goes all the way from the base of his skull to the top of his shoulders. What is in between? NECK! The smaller cop isn't a turtle. His neck isn't retracted into his body.

OK, compare the center of the knee to the mouth. The center of the knee is right above the mouth, that would put the knee further back from the mouth, between the mouth and the ear. That is the jaw. If neck is lower than the jaw, so the jaw can hold the weight of the police officer, protecting the neck. I would not want to risk it, but it would work 90% of the time.

The person being held down can help avoid being strangled by slightly shrugging. He does not need to be a turtle to make his neck thin enough to not easily fit a knee over it. In fact, if you shrug as much as you can, and put your chin to your chest, you can have almost no neck to catch.

Alternatively, if the police officer wants to strangle the person on the ground, he can try to work his knee into the neck and around the higher jaw and shoulder bone. Even if he does not want to strangle the person, the police officer can slip and hit the neck.

If he hits the neck from the back, there is still some hope. If he hits the neck from the front, there are going to be major problems very quickly.

I will point out that if you look at George Floyd, you will notice he had a prominent neck. He was a big man, and his neck looks even slightly bigger than he is. That gives the police officer more room to fit his knee in between the head and the body.

If you watch it, you will SEE that having a knee on the neck doesn't cut off your breathing. You would have to be crushing the windpipe to do that. And to do that you would need a knee to the front of somebody's neck. On the side or back won't do it.

The front can cut off breathing. The side reduces blood flow to the brain. The back can push so hard that the ground pushes against front and cuts off breathing. The side can cut off breathing too, if pushed hard enough. The neck is one of our weakest points, and a lot can go wrong.

he was high on meth and fentanyl. He also had coronavirus. He was complaining about having trouble breathing even before they tried to put him into the cop car.

If you punch someone with a heart condition, and they die, it is called manslaughter. Even if they would have died within a few hours anyway, and even if they would not have died without the heart condition. Your punching them triggered the death.

The same is true with Floyd. They took him the way they found him. The autopsy showed damage to the neck, which triggered Floyd's death. He also had underlying health problems.

Worse yet, the police made no attempt to help Floyd, or get him an ambulance.

A cop's job is to arrest suspects. Not let them get away. Whatever it takes to take them into custody is allowed. Even if it means shooting them. Or at least that's the way it should be.

You may believe that is true, but the law disagrees with you. Let me give you an extreme example. Picture a jaywalker, who rather than stopping when the police officer says stop, runs away. Does the police officer have the right to use a machine gun to bring him down?

Police force must be proportional. That means deadly force is only used in self defense or defense of others. It is not used to apprehend someone.

 

[overkill]

I don't believe anyone here really believes that what the cops did was justified. Unless you honestly believe that cops should have the power to kill anyone they want.

If anybody here believes differently it's because they're complete idiots. And due to the anti-White Stockholm Syndrome they have been and are still exposed to, they don't want to believer any differently. But I am going to shove it up their worthless, treasonous asses. Floyd committed a crime and resisted arrest. He complained about having trouble breathing even before they tried to put him in the cop car. All because of a combination of stress over going back to prison, being in poor health along with having coronavirus. (which didn't stop him from putting up a struggle)

Also, he didn't want to be put into the back of the cop car because he "claimed" that he was claustrophobic. But he was no stranger to the back of a cop car. Also, he had just come out of another car. Where was his claustrophobia then. So because he was struggling, he ended up where he needed to be. Pinned down on the ground with, in part, a knee on his neck and back. Which wasn't the cause of death. And I don't care if he passed out or what. Seeing how what officer Chauvin was doing couldn't have been doing him harm, why should he have moved. Floyd was pronounced dead an hour after he got to the hospital. Officer Chauvin didn't have a knee on Floyd's neck an hour later in the hospital. So saying that it was the knee to the neck that killed him is pretty stupid.

 

[overkill]

OK, compare the center of the knee to the mouth. The center of the knee is right above the mouth, that would put the knee further back from the mouth, between the mouth and the ear. That is the jaw. If neck is lower than the jaw, so the jaw can hold the weight of the police officer, protecting the neck. I would not want to risk it, but it would work 90% of the time.

The person being held down can help avoid being strangled by slightly shrugging. He does not need to be a turtle to make his neck thin enough to not easily fit a knee over it. In fact, if you shrug as much as you can, and put your chin to your chest, you can have almost no neck to catch.

Alternatively, if the police officer wants to strangle the person on the ground, he can try to work his knee into the neck and around the higher jaw and shoulder bone. Even if he does not want to strangle the person, the police officer can slip and hit the neck.

If he hits the neck from the back, there is still some hope. If he hits the neck from the front, there are going to be major problems very quickly.

I will point out that if you look at George Floyd, you will notice he had a prominent neck. He was a big man, and his neck looks even slightly bigger than he is. That gives the police officer more room to fit his knee in between the head and the body.



The front can cut off breathing. The side reduces blood flow to the brain. The back can push so hard that the ground pushes against front and cuts off breathing. The side can cut off breathing too, if pushed hard enough. The neck is one of our weakest points, and a lot can go wrong.



If you punch someone with a heart condition, and they die, it is called manslaughter. Even if they would have died within a few hours anyway, and even if they would not have died without the heart condition. Your punching them triggered the death.

The same is true with Floyd. They took him the way they found him. The autopsy showed damage to the neck, which triggered Floyd's death. He also had underlying health problems.

Worse yet, the police made no attempt to help Floyd, or get him an ambulance.



You may believe that is true, but the law disagrees with you. Let me give you an extreme example. Picture a jaywalker, who rather than stopping when the police officer says stop, runs away. Does the police officer have the right to use a machine gun to bring him down?

Police force must be proportional. That means deadly force is only used in self defense or defense of others. It is not used to apprehend someone.

Oh just cut the crap and watch the video. You will see plenty of knees to the neck. Not the jaw. Not the shoulders. The NECK! They also show what I take to be different police departments from all over the world training with the same hold.

 

[StoneByStone]

If anybody here believes differently it's because they're complete idiots. And due to the anti-White Stockholm Syndrome they have been and are still exposed to, they don't want to believer any differently. But I am going to shove it up their worthless, treasonous asses. Floyd committed a crime and resisted arrest. He complained about having trouble breathing even before they tried to put him in the cop car. All because of a combination of stress over going back to prison, being in poor health along with having coronavirus. (which didn't stop him from putting up a struggle)

I'm a white Ethnic Nationalist and I accept that what those cops did was police brutality. Regardless of exactly what killed Floyd, the way they handled him was terrible. And I don't want to live in a country where cops are allowed to get away with that.

 

[overkill]

I'm a white Ethnic Nationalist and I accept that what those cops did was police brutality. Regardless of exactly what killed Floyd, the way they handled him was terrible. And I don't want to live in a country where cops are allowed to get away with that.

Are you fukin high?! Floyd resisted arrest! Do you even know what "resist" means? It means to put up a fight. What do you do when somebody is putting up a fight? You fight back! What the FUCK do you think the cops were supposed to do. Say "pretty please!" Or maybe invite him for some coffee somewhere to discuss the matter. No, I think I know what you wanted to happen. For the cops to uncuff him, shove his back against the car and start sucking his cock! Well that last part is probably what you would have done. But I don't blame the cops for not doing so.

 

[domer76]

That sounds a little familiar. But I don't remember the particulars. That aside, what crime was he committing besides being where he wasn't supposed to be. Other than that, wasn't he just some crotchety old fuck?

He was the guy, with his supporters, took over and occupied the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon. Had an armed standoff with the feds. Ended up getting one of his own killed.

Now, he and his idiot followers are on anti-mask and other bullshit missions.

 

[StoneByStone]

Are you fukin high?! Floyd resisted arrest! Do you even know what "resist" means? It means to put up a fight. What do you do when somebody is putting up a fight? You fight back! What the FUCK do you think the cops were supposed to do. Say "pretty please!" Or maybe invite him for some coffee somewhere to discuss the matter. No, I think I know what you wanted to happen. For the cops to uncuff him, shove his back against the car and start sucking his cock! Well that last part is probably what you would have done. But I don't blame the cops for not doing so.

Do you really think they had to keep a knee on his neck for over eight minutes? They seriously couldn't have cuffed him and got him in the car?

 

[Celticguy]

The way things look to me with all of the protests over negroes who get killed or just die while resisting arrest, the liberals want to make negroes free from arrest. Negro commits a crime, the cops show up, only thing cops are allowed to us is harsh language. (If even that) And if the offender wants to leave, there is nothing the cops can do to stop them. Those kinds of people DESERVE death!

You either have rule of law or you dont.
The GA here in Ole Virginnie is hell bent for look eather to make it dont.
Which explains why im visiting the firearms store tomorrow. Time to augment the security here.

 

[Walt]

Do you even know what "resist" means?

Floyd was dead with his hands in handcuffs. I doubt he resisted anything.

 

[katzgar]

On the news last night they talked about the officers being in court that were there when the cop resisting negro criminal George Floyd died. There was nothing wrong with the hero cop officer Chauvin put a knee on Floyd's neck AND back. He wasn't doing Floyd any harm. And what was he supposed to do. Give a cop resisting negro criminal with coronavirus CPR? That's a joke.

And more recently there has been a big stink going on over the justified shooting of another cop resisting negro criminal Jacob Blake. From what I have found out, they tried to restrain him. That didn't work. They tried to taser him, that didn't work. But when he tried to get into his car and possibly get a weapon, or just drive off and maybe run over a cop, they shot him. That worked. Now what if they were allowed to use the knee to the neck manoeuvre. Then none of the rest would have happened. (But fortunately for society, it did)

I will show you a video of what happens when a cop puts their ENTIRE weight on just one knee on somebody's neck. Unlike what happened with Floyd. Who as I said had a knee on his neck and back. Meaning that there wasn't that much weight on his neck.

it's not working Americans understand that when you guys incite rioting and looting that's exactly what you're doing they don't blame Biden or the Democrats they blame you guys

 

[overkill]

He was the guy, with his supporters, took over and occupied the federal wildlife refuge in Oregon. Had an armed standoff with the feds. Ended up getting one of his own killed.

Now, he and his idiot followers are on anti-mask and other bullshit missions.

Ok. But what does that have to do with restraining a struggling suspect with a knee to the back of their neck.

 

[overkill]

Do you really think they had to keep a knee on his neck for over eight minutes? They seriously couldn't have cuffed him and got him in the car?

Do you know what having a knee to the neck for 8 minutes would do? The same as what it would do if you did so for an hour. Absolutely nothing. Except make the suspect uncomfortable. Next, haven't you seen any of the videos? If not, you shouldn't even be commenting on something you know nothing about. He was cuffed. They tried to put him into the back of the cop car. But he put up a struggle. Also, even when he was on the ground with officer Chauvin's knee on his neck and back, Floyd actually still managed to briefly raise his head and neck off the pavement a little.

 

[overkill]

You either have rule of law or you dont.
The GA here in Ole Virginnie is hell bent for look eather to make it dont.
Which explains why im visiting the firearms store tomorrow. Time to augment the security here.

What good is that going to do you. From what I have seen, the cops will give you shit if you are armed even on your own property. And look at Gergory and Travis McMichael. They had every right to be armed and to detain Ahmaud Arbery. But he attacked them! From what I hear it took three shots from a shotgun to put that raging humanzee down. As far as I know, they're still in jail. And look at Kyle Rittenhouse. He had ever right to be doing what he was doing. Sure, he shot some people. In self defense! Though on the news they edited out one of the people who attacked him. You don't need to buy a gun. Try something a little less drastic. Let people around here at least know how you feel. Post a picture of Hitler as your avatar. If you do, I will too.

 

[overkill]

Floyd was dead with his hands in handcuffs. I doubt he resisted anything.

I watched the videos of Floyd with officer Chauvin's knees on Floyd's back and neck. Floyd was still struggling. At one point, he briefly managed to lift his head off the pavement. Sure, he eventually stopped moving. But seeing how what officer Chauvin was doing wasn't doing him any harm, why give a criminal who had been putting up a struggle any sort of a break at all. If you watched the video I posted, you are just going to have to face the facts. What officer Chauvin was doing was looked a lot worse than what it was. Also, from what I hear, Floyd died about an hour later in the hospital. Not under officer Chauvin's knees.

 

[overkill]

it's not working Americans understand that when you guys incite rioting and looting that's exactly what you're doing they don't blame Biden or the Democrats they blame you guys

Could you be a little more clear about what you are trying to say?

 

[domer76]

Ok. But what does that have to do with restraining a struggling suspect with a knee to the back of their neck.

Derp

 

[overkill]

Derp

It sounds like you need a knee to the back of your neck.

 

[domer76]

It sounds like you need a knee to the back of your neck.

Derp