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LadyT said:
Honestly, Didn't Palin's daughter demonstrate how abstinence only is not an effective way to teach your children.

How is this even a debate?
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a better question is WHY is this even a debate....the only people in this thread talking about abstinence only are the brainless liberals.....
 
bravo said:
If you're talking about the US military,
Exactly right.....As a rule.....Iraqi babies and pregnant Iraqi women were NOT murdered in the war....

Thats not to deny criminal acts by evil men, be they military or civilian, as happens all over the world at various times.....or accidental causalities in the civilian population, as happens in all wars....
usually caused by enemy using civilians as shields...
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The discussion is about what's inside the womb.

Dixie says abortion or killing innocents is murder. If that's an absolute, then an innocent Iraqi child or an Iraqi woman's fetus who got killed in the war is also murder.

Fallujah wasn't about human shields.
 
LadyT said:
Translation:

Dixie PWND

lol, YOU were the one that said their view points were valid because they were founded in religious beliefs. I'm simply wondering do you think this extends to all beliefs that are founded in religious doctrine or are you just arbitrarily picking this one.

You said it dummy!
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No, you took something I said completely out of context because you are a bigot. I never validated the viewpoint. I said THEY have a valid religious viewpoint that is not rooted in racism. From THEIR perspective the viewpoint is valid, and you have not shown anything to be 'racist' about it, except for your personal perception and politically correct opinion. In order to establish a "racist" intention, you have to show where the viewpoint is rooted in racist philosophy, and you haven't done that. Let us be perfectly clear, Dixie has not endorsed or supported ANY religious viewpoint. I only pointed out the viewpoint in question is not "racist" and I challenged you to prove otherwise, which you haven't done.
 
christiefan915 said:
The discussion is about what's inside the womb.

Dixie says abortion or killing innocents is murder. If that's an absolute, then an innocent Iraqi child or an Iraqi woman's fetus who got killed in the war is also murder.

Fallujah wasn't about human shields.
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Uhm... where did Dixie ever say that abortion is murder? I have conceded (several times in this thread) that it is legal in the United States to kill innocent unborn babies. That makes it NOT murder, but a legal medical procedure. Someone else may have said this, but it wasn't me. Why do you people have to lie so fucking much? Is it something fucked up with your DNA or what?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I have a spine, but unlike some there's a brain on the end of it....
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:rolleyes: Once again, some dopey neocon parrot with delusions of intelligence & wit demonstrates quite the opposite. Now pay attention, bunky...because I'm damned tired of schooling clods like you:

if you want to talk about "sheer ignorance" talk about the fact you completely ignored the words "teach it to them"

Obviously, you slept through those days in grade school with regards to sentence structure. This means that an out of context quote does not stand alone, and must be incorporated with the entire sentence to determine the true declaration or question. You wrote: "...so if you think there's a kid out there that doesn't know what contraception is, teach it to them...."

This attempt at sarcasm demonstrates that YOU are of the belief that there are no kids out there who are ignorant of contraception (when it's needed, what types and how they are applied). But since the discussion here is about abortion, which is taking place at alarming numbers, your assertion here is misplaced at best, displaying sheer ignorance of the situation at worst. That you follow up your statement with an endorsement of abstinence being superior teaching technique to prevent pregancy/STD spread further demostrates your ignorance of what has transpired in the USA regarding sex education.

no by my logic, which is impeccable, abstinence is more effective than contraception.....

Pay attention: I wrote "abstinence teaching", not just "abstinence".....there's a difference, because a comprehensive sex education includes abstinence, contraception and the biology involved. But first, let me cure you of this delusion that abstinence only teaching for a sex ed course is effective:
http://nsrc.sfsu.edu/article/abstinence_only_failure_latest_research_shows
http://www.alternet.org/rights/52648/?page=3

and it was eliminated when there was no sex....

Well genius, since the rate of teen pregnancies, abortions, unwanted adult pregancies, more unwanted kids entering the foster care system, it would seem that the number of people abstaining is far from few. Bottom line: instead of piety being the guideline, reality should be...as the reality shows abstinence only teaching doesn't work....as reality shows that a whole lot of folk were having sex outside of wedlock since the dawn of time, which resulted in some wise folk advocating trying to deal with the situation with real sex ed as opposed to what hasn't worked for the last few generations.

I have a spine, but unlike some there's a brain on the end of it....

Given your recent performances on these boards, that's debatable. But hope springs eternal.
 
Dixie said:
No, you took something I said completely out of context because you are a bigot. I never validated the viewpoint. I said THEY have a valid religious viewpoint that is not rooted in racism. From THEIR perspective the viewpoint is valid, and you have not shown anything to be 'racist' about it, except for your personal perception and politically correct opinion. In order to establish a "racist" intention, you have to show where the viewpoint is rooted in racist philosophy, and you haven't done that. Let us be perfectly clear, Dixie has not endorsed or supported ANY religious viewpoint. I only pointed out the viewpoint in question is not "racist" and I challenged you to prove otherwise, which you haven't done.
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Uh, yeah, I'd say prejudging a relationship as "bad" or "ungodly" because people are not of the same race is racist. But that's the difference you and I isn't it?

And I'm just asking do you think that killing homosexuals and nonbelievers is a valid view point too? I mean, its not like you'd "endorse" it or anything, but I"m just curious as to whether or not you think killing all of us non believers is valid. No need to get so defensive. :)
 
LadyT said:
Uh, yeah, I'd say prejudging a relationship as "bad" or "ungodly" because people are not of the same race is racist. But that's the difference you and I isn't it?

And I'm just asking do you think that killing homosexuals and nonbelievers is a valid view point too? I mean, its not like you'd "endorse" it or anything, but I"m just curious as to whether or not you think killing all of us non believers is valid. No need to get so defensive. :)
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I never claimed to support the viewpoint or speak for its validity, I merely pointed out that the people who believe this, have a valid religious reason that is not inherently racist. You can't refute that because it is true. The truth is like that, it's not easy to refute, but goddamn if you people don't try like hell anyway!

Back to the religious viewpoint in question, it has nothing to do with prejudging a relationship, that would be "prejudiced" and this has nothing to do with that. As I explained, it is a religious teaching from the Old Testament in the Bible. The viewpoint is not applied to one race, or against certain races, it is applied universally to all races of people. It has nothing to do with relationships or judgment regarding relationships. It has to do with following what they believe to be the will of the God they worship. What part of that are you failing to comprehend?
 
Dixie said:
I never claimed to support the viewpoint or speak for its validity, I merely pointed out that the people who believe this, have a valid religious reason that is not inherently racist. You can't refute that because it is true. The truth is like that, it's not easy to refute, but goddamn if you people don't try like hell anyway!

Back to the religious viewpoint in question, it has nothing to do with prejudging a relationship, that would be "prejudiced" and this has nothing to do with that. As I explained, it is a religious teaching from the Old Testament in the Bible. The viewpoint is not applied to one race, or against certain races, it is applied universally to all races of people. It has nothing to do with relationships or judgment regarding relationships. It has to do with following what they believe to be the will of the God they worship. What part of that are you failing to comprehend?
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Separate but equal.
 
Dixie said:
I never claimed to support the viewpoint or speak for its validity, I merely pointed out that the people who believe this, have a valid religious reason that is not inherently racist.

It has to do with following what they believe to be the will of the God they worship. What part of that are you failing to comprehend?
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Priceless.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Pay attention: I wrote "abstinence teaching", not just "abstinence".....there's a difference
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ah, so YOU were the one that drew it out of thin air....the rest of your post is too stupid to waste time on....it has absolutely nothing to do with what we have been talking about....apparently you wanted to start a whole new debate in the middle of the old one and are now surprised by the fact......
 
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LadyT said:
Honestly, Didn't Palin's daughter demonstrate how abstinence only is not an effective way to teach your children.

How is this even a debate?
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Funny, funny, funny stuff....

You really think Palin's daughter got knocked up by "abstinence"......

You're a bigger airhead that I imagined.....
 
Dixie EARLIER IN THIS THREAD said:
You fucking nitwit! People's religious viewpoints ARE validaccording to the 1st Amendment of the fucking Constitution , go read it for yourself! If people religiously believe that God doesn't condone interracial marriage, that is between them and God, and it's NOT my business, nor is it indicative of a RACIST viewpoint that one race is inferior or superior to another, that is an entirely DIFFERENT viewpoint altogether. I never said I agree with them, I never said they were right or wrong, but according to the fucking Constitution, they have the right to believe as they wish as long as it isn't denying someone else their Constitutional rights to do so.
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Dixie tsquirming out of an argument today: said:
I never claimed to support the viewpoint or speak for its validity,
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haha. Gotcha.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
ah, so YOU were the one that drew it out of thin air....the rest of your post is too stupid to waste time on....it has absolutely nothing to do with what we have been talking about....apparently you wanted to start a whole new debate in the middle of the old one and are now surprised by the fact......
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You mean like debating abortion in a thread that was about racism?
 
bravo said:
Funny, funny, funny stuff....

You really think Palin's daughter got knocked up by "abstinence"......

You're a bigger airhead that I imagined.....
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If you think I said that you're almost as stupid as meme.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You mean like debating abortion in a thread that was about racism?
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/shrugs....I didn't start it....I merely answered a question....in this instance I meant wanting me to pretend I was in favor of abstinence only sex education simply because he wanted to debate it.....
 
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