We don't put enough people in jail

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By Mariano Castillo
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(CNN) -- Frank Hatley spent the past year in jail for being a deadbeat dad. But there's one problem -- Hatley doesn't have any children. And the "deadbeat" label doesn't fit the 50-year-old either, his supporters say.


Frank Hatley had been ordered to make back payments even after he learned a teenager wasn't his son.

After a hearing, Hatley was released from the Cook County Jail in south Georgia Wednesday afternoon, with the help of the Southern Center for Human Rights.

Superior Court Judge Dane Perkins ruled that Hatley was indigent and should not be jailed for not being able to make child support payments. Perkins postponed a decision on whether Hatley should have to make any more back payments on child-support for a child who is not his.

In June of last year, a judge ordered Hatley to jail for failing to reimburse the state for public assistance that was paid to support his "son," who, as the court was aware, is not actually his son.

Hatley's attorney Sarah Geraghty, who filed a motion for his release, called it a case of "blatant unfairness."

Hatley is a hard-working man who demonstrated his desire to pay what the court said he owed, even making payments from his unemployment checks, Geraghty told CNN.

On top of that, "the state has no legitimate reason to pursue Mr. Hatley for child support -- he doesn't have any children," she said.

The story dates back to 1986, when Hatley had a relationship with Essie Lee Morrison. She became pregnant and gave birth to a son.

Morrison told Hatley that the child was his, but the couple ended their relationship shortly after the boy's birth, according to court documents. The couple never married and never lived together, the documents state.

When the boy turned 2, Morrison applied for public support for her son. Under Georgia law, the state can go after the non-custodial parent to recoup the assistance.

For 13 years, Hatley made payments to the state until learning, in 2000, that the boy might not be his biological son. A DNA test that year confirmed that there was no chance he was the father, according to court documents.

Hatley returned to court and was relieved of any future child support reimbursement but was ordered to pay more than $16,000 that he had owed the state before the ruling.

Latesha Bradley, an attorney who represented Hatley in that hearing, told CNN the argument for keeping Hatley liable for the back payments was that he had signed a consent agreement with the office of child support services. The court agreed that Hatley had to comply with the consent agreement for the period that he believed the boy was his son.

Court documents show that Hatley for the most part continued to make payments. He was jailed for six months in 2006 for falling behind on payments during a period of unemployment, but afterward he resumed making payments and continued to do so even after he lost another job in 2008 and became homeless, court records state.

Last year, he again became unable to maintain the payments and was once again jailed.

The circumstances of Hatley's arrest didn't feel right to many, including Cook County Sheriff Johnny Daughtrey.

"I knew the gentleman's plight and didn't know how to help him," Daughtrey told CNN.

About two months ago, when attorneys from the Southern Center for Human Rights visited his jail, Daughtrey alerted them to Hatley's case.
 
I expect WM to be on here soon, justifying this incarceration because the best needs of the child dictate that someone, anyone, pay for that support.
 
Beyond the sad truth that we are the greatest prison nation in human history .. which speaks to the title of this thread, there is also the sad truth that "fatherhood" is near meaningless in the US. Fatherhood is a code word for somebody has to pay.

"Motherhood" is not only more important than fatherhood in the US, it's also more important than "childhood." The best interests of the child are secondary to the concept of motherhood.

What the state has essentially declared is that although we know you aren't guilty, we're going to charge you with a crime anyway .. and make you pay untold dollars for a crime WE KNOW you didn't commit. AND, WE KNOW we can get away with this bullshit because men have no fucking voice in our system to oppose it.

The stark right in your face reality is that American men are powerless and neutered on many issues in American society. There are no balls. This is just one of them.
 
Beyond the sad truth that we are the greatest prison nation in human history .. which speaks to the title of this thread, there is also the sad truth that "fatherhood" is near meaningless in the US. Fatherhood is a code word for somebody has to pay.

"Motherhood" is not only more important than fatherhood in the US, it's also more important than "childhood." The best interests of the child are secondary to the concept of motherhood.

What the state has essentially declared is that although we know you aren't guilty, we're going to charge you with a crime anyway .. and make you pay untold dollars for a crime WE KNOW you didn't commit. AND, WE KNOW we can get away with this bullshit because men have no fucking voice in our system to oppose it.

The stark right in your face reality is that American men are powerless and neutered on many issues in American society. There are no balls. This is just one of them.

If there are balls, they are kept in jars in the collections of women who perpetrate this sort of bullshit and the judicial system that backs them up with force.
 
If there are balls, they are kept in jars in the collections of women who perpetrate this sort of bullshit and the judicial system that backs them up with force.

In the famous words of Eli Wallach in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" .. "If God didn't want them sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep."

When American men show up in court, all that's going to be heard from them is .. Baaaaaa

There are balls here, but they're hanging off women. Don't blame them because they have balls and we don't.
 
In the famous words of Eli Wallach in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" .. "If God didn't want them sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep."

When American men show up in court, all that's going to be heard from them is .. Baaaaaa

There are balls here, but they're hanging off women. Don't blame them because they have balls and we don't.

Too often having balls means you will face even more conflict and have it stacked against you.
 
Too often having balls means you will face even more conflict and have it stacked against you.

Having balls means you don't care what's stacked against you or who's doing the stacking.

Small wonder there's confusion about sexual identity in the US.

Men are pussies and women are walking around with balls.
 
he wouldn't have been jailed for not paying support, he was likely jailed for not complying with a court order....he ought to have gone in and had the order vacated upon learning the child wasn't his.....
 
Having balls means you don't care what's stacked against you or who's doing the stacking.

Small wonder there's confusion about sexual identity in the US.

Men are pussies and women are walking around with balls.
Its part of the feminization of America that started in the 1960's. *shrug*
 
I still am waiting for male contraception to be introduced. All men should be checking the paternity anyways.
 
Well said, BAC, I didn't expect this from you at all, but no one here could have laid it out any better!

:clink:

Thank you brother .. but it comes from that thing called life.

I used to volunteer at a men's center in Seattle, but I had to either quit or slit my own throat from all the depression I was getting from guys who were fighting to stay in their kids lives.

The system doesn't care about fathers.
 
Beyond the sad truth that we are the greatest prison nation in human history .. which speaks to the title of this thread, there is also the sad truth that "fatherhood" is near meaningless in the US. Fatherhood is a code word for somebody has to pay.

"Motherhood" is not only more important than fatherhood in the US, it's also more important than "childhood." The best interests of the child are secondary to the concept of motherhood.

What the state has essentially declared is that although we know you aren't guilty, we're going to charge you with a crime anyway .. and make you pay untold dollars for a crime WE KNOW you didn't commit. AND, WE KNOW we can get away with this bullshit because men have no fucking voice in our system to oppose it.

The stark right in your face reality is that American men are powerless and neutered on many issues in American society. There are no balls. This is just one of them.


And that's the unvarnished truth of the matter.

What I can't fathom is how these "mothers" live with themselves? What sort of shittiness runs in the veins of a woman who would do this intentionally to a man?
 
And that's the unvarnished truth of the matter.

What I can't fathom is how these "mothers" live with themselves? What sort of shittiness runs in the veins of a woman who would do this intentionally to a man?

The kind that know they can get away with it. They won't be charged with any crime and they won't have to repay any money they stole from the victim.

In fact, if the sucker she claims is the father proves he isn't the father, she can always claim it's someone else .. unlimitlessly. No "three strikes you're out" rule here. She can blame anyone she comes in contact with endlessly.

Further, even for the guys who are the father and want to take care of his children and have a loving relationship with them .. they had better kiss the ass of his kids mother anytime she wants it kissed, else, he may face the wrath of a woman scorned who has the entire US government to back her up.
 
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