We can't afford NOT TO do single payer health care

[Port Tack]

Are you saying Obamacare is not working? You stupid fuck. And the other dumb fuck that "thanked" you for this bullshit.

Obamacare is not universal healthcare. It could have been but the republicans stopped it.

 

[Port Tack]

this is a very good example of why Democrats shouldn't be in charge of sewage plants......they don't know shit about how markets work. All they can do is centralize power, enable corruption, enrich their buddies, and rob the commoners.

What a fucking stupid comment.

 

[Port Tack]

They were all better before ACA, ACA was passed for 15% of the population, Democrats have never been good at math

Another fucking stupid comment. The only reason it only helped about 15% of the population is because republicans prevented it from helping more.

 

[Port Tack]

The civilized world has socialized medicine.

What little manufacturing we have has to compete with foreign companies that don't have to directly pay for employee heath insurance
because of national healthcare.


By the way, to slightly change the subject, in my union represented job, I paid 0% of my health insurance costs.
And in retirement, I still get significant contribution to my Medicare supplemental...but unions suck from what I'm told.

You still pay one way or another. Whether it be union dues or simply a lowered wage you still pay.

 

[Port Tack]

capitalism is where innovation in medicine resides

Is that why all those other "capitalistic" countries have higher life expectancy than ours does? Maybe theirs is higher because they don't have any republicans.

 

[Port Tack]

It's moronic to tie health insurance to employment.

you are right, it should be tied to your citizenship.

 

[Port Tack]

The "single payer" plan that get's discussed in this nation is public funding for private services...like Medicare.
That can indeed get very expensive.

Yet obviously less expensive than every other developed country in the world.

 

[Port Tack]

Get rid of all insurance and the prices would drop like a rock.

and our life expectancy would probably drop another 10 fucking years.

 

[Port Tack]

At one time that worked,it doesn't work anymore, and puts American companies at a disadvantage in a global market place!

it was tied to employment because we were too stupid to adopt a health plan like any of the other countries that pay half what we do and have higher life expectancies.

 

[Port Tack]

What other countries the health insurance to employment?

None, they don't have republicans and tie their healthcare to simply being a citizen.

 

[Port Tack]

Incorrect

Bullshit. An appendectomy is about 30-40 thousand dollars. How many of your ignorant right wingers on welfare throughout the south would be able to afford it? They wouldn't, they would simply die.

 

[Port Tack]

the insurance industry, itself, is a scam and you should know this, with your touted critical thinking skills you supposedly learned in college.

You are right. The wealthiest companies in many cases are insurance companies. Think of the care we could provide if they were cut out of the healthcare business.

 

[Port Tack]

they didn't teach you that in college? what kind of shit degree did you get?

again, insurance is a scam. instead of consolidating the scam and corruption in to a select few who will become insanely wealthy through supposed regulation, we should free up that 'market' by ensuring that insurance companies can't put a stranglehold on healthcare providers.

How about letting insurance companies sell life insurance and they simply get the hell out of the healthcare business.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

You still pay one way or another. Whether it be union dues or simply a lowered wage you still pay.

So you think one could buy health insurance for what one pays in union dues?
You're not too familiar with the ways of the world.
It's not even close.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

and our life expectancy would probably drop another 10 fucking years.

Although in fairness, our life expectancy is at minimum ten years too long already.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What a fucking stupid comment.

can't help but notice that you're not denying what I stated.

 

[Mason Michaels]

it was tied to employment because we were too stupid to adopt a health plan like any of the other countries that pay half what we do and have higher life expectancies.

Healthcare attached to employment started before most countries had health insurance.

 

[Mason Michaels]

Bullshit. An appendectomy is about 30-40 thousand dollars. How many of your ignorant right wingers on welfare throughout the south would be able to afford it? They wouldn't, they would simply die.

No they would get the surgery and stiff the hospital

 

[Mason Michaels]

How about letting insurance companies sell life insurance and they simply get the hell out of the healthcare business.

In Europe health insurance companies aren't allowed to make a profit on basic healthcare, but can sell policies for things like cosmetic procedures

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Although in fairness, our life expectancy is at minimum ten years too long already.

you are a eugenicist nazi mass murderer.