We Are Not Collecting Enough Taxes. And Still The Debt Rises; Despite Strong Economy.

Hello Kacper,

The American College of Physicians has come out against the overly burdensome regulations that take away from their time being able to actually treat patients. Just google “Patients Before Paperwork”

Without regulatory oversight surgeons might amputate the wrong foot. Regulations force doctors to take a safe methodical approach.

Regulations may be costly, but the lack of them is actually more costly.
 
Hello Phantasmal,

I don’t know about you, but I want it documented what medical care I have received. Insurance companies are a lot of the problem, they require documentation and doctors offices have taken on the practice of filing insurance claims for people in order to receive payment. Electronic record keeping is racing the record keeping burden.

Single Payer would eliminate a vast bureaucracy devoted to insurance payments, thus saving everyone lots of money.
 
The rich and wealthy don't have to pay taxes anymore.

The tax burden has been levied off onto America's hardest workers.

Donald Trump and the Republicans are wrong for America!

Get your asses out there and vote people!
 
You first

No problem. It makes about as much sense as "We must protect doctors from violations of the Red Tape Act by making sure the continue to sign their Red Tape in blood long after the patient has been treated before they get paid" position. A friend who did medical coding full time was forever facebook posting asking people what the code for weird procedures was. I was almost always the one who found it for her because they weren't in her manual and she googled like a technocrat looking for them instead of using common sense searches like "What is the medical billing code for a penis inversion" or whatever it was she was looking for.
 
Hello Darth,

According to my link the manufacturing sector takes a positive view of Trump’s regulatory management.

Not bad for a mentally debilitated narcissistic, huh lol?

The profit-seekers are getting more profits. Of course they are happy. If it costs more to be safe and fair, and they are not forced to do either of those things, and they don't care to because they are selfish, then of course they approve.

Regulations are kind of like having a plan.

Suppose we are going to build a house.

One guy has no patience. He says: "Let's grab some 2x4's and some nails are start building!"

Another guy says: "No, let's get some paper and make a design first. We need a plan."

And the first guy says: "That's slow and boring. And it will take longer. Let's start right away!"

And ya know? Maybe that guy who wants to just do it has enough experience to build a good house without a plan. And maybe he could do it faster. But then maybe he doesn't and he can't. He might just create something that would lose it's roof in a big storm. It's going to cost more to use a plan and foresee all the possible problems, but the result will be a house that stands longer and won't need to be replaced. It might cost more but it will certainly cost even more than that if you have to replace the house because it wasn't built right in the first place.

And good luck insuring the house with no plan. If there is no plan, then it can't be up to code (regulations) and you won't get insurance.

And if you can't get insurance, then you can't get a mortgage.

And if you can't get a mortgage, then for most people, they can't get the house.

Regulations are like taxes. Nobody likes them. But we have to have them.
 
Hello Darth,

Don’t get me started with that lol.

It’s gotten so bad they have to staff OR rooms with two RN’s just so one of them can sit at the computer and manage—whatever the hell it is they’re doing, while we operate and are *taking care of the patient*. Not that it’s their fault but it’s becoming absurd.

It’s become the butt of a joke—‘we offer the best computer care in town’ lol.

And it’s getting worse and not better.

Get used to it. That's life.

As humans figure out more ways to rip each other off, or screw up, then government must take measures to protect the citizens. It is government's job to care about the people of the nation. Without people, government is nothing. Without people, a nation is nothing. The citizens are the most important part of a nation.
 
Hello Kacper,

Insurance companies LOL. 50K+ pages of new regulations by the government with Obamacare passed onto "the insurance companies" alone. Add in existing medicaid/medicare requirements, etc etc etc. Had a relative who had an extended hospital stay after a ruptured AAA who recovered, went on a few years, died from something else, and had been dead for a year and their crap was still randomly being sent back by the government which triggered bills to the patient, which triggered telephone calls, etc all because of coding errors. They would find one, and kick it back. They would then find the next one, and kick it back. They then would find the next one, and kick it back. It wouldn't surprise me if it show up yet again just because I dared speak of it. Last time it happened I was, well, he is still dead and you are now beyond the statute of limitations to sue him anyway, so that is between you and Uncle Sam.

And the President thinks the government will perform better if the workers are paid less?
 
How do you propose records to be kept? Do you want record keeping to be done away? This is what I don’t understand, you have to keep records. I want my healthcare documented, so what do you propose. Medicine is much more complicated these days then when you were giving Dr. a chicken to treat you? What do you purpose be done so that I have records of what was done to me, and doctors have more time to treat patients?

Medicine is medicine.

What’s changed are the extraneous factors.
 
Hello Nifty,



I think we need to go left but there would be a danger in going hard left. It needs to be gradual for the best and most enduring results. Conservatives need time to see that it works. Otherwise it just fires them up with propaganda and we swing back hard the other way again. These gyrations are highly destructive in the long run.

I think we need to go hard left--gradually, then. I understand your argument.
 
Hello Darth,



That has not happened because the jobs don't pay enough to live on. Thus we have full time workers who qualify for the dole. The result is wealth extraction. Taxpayers are paying for the workers who are making the rich richer. Thus, money is flowing from taxpayers to the super-rich. The Class War in action.




Thus proving that what the Tea Party wants is not sustainable. Because the 'great economy' is not generating enough revenue to reduce the Debt/GDP ratio.

It's fool's gold. It can't last. The crash is coming. It's only a matter of time. And in your heart, you know I am right.

So, raises taxes and stunt the economy lol?

Do democrats ever have economic proposals that *don’t* involve raising taxes?
 
" it's "Obama's economy" " a #71
If I may add:
At the beginning of his administration, Obama was a Keynesian.
Critics (Republicans) pretended Obama would just run deficits the same as Republicans.
But it was a special case. The U.S. was losing a reported 800K private sector jobs per month.
The Bush / Cheney / Paulson $700 $Billion $TARP didn't solve the problem. It merely put the Bush economy on life-support, until the Republicans could get out of town.
Trump's fingerprints have not yet fully stained the U.S. & global economies. But it's looking progressively grim.

" ... trade wars are good, and easy to win." Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 18/03/02 02:50
"We know that protectionism makes the world poorer." George Will
 
Hello tsuke,

if revenue is up then we have a spending problem.

And if you think the issue can be adequately explained in such a short sound byte then you are mistaken. In short, no. We do not have a spending problem. We have a tax-cut-not-generating-enough-revenue problem. Revenue is up, but it is NOT UP ENOUGH. Republicans promised it would be up enough to reduce the deficit. It is not. The deficit is higher.

Also if reducing spending would hurt the economy then increasing taxes would do so as well.

Not as much as reducing spending would. It is a matter of degree. Once again, you are over-simplifying the issue. This is complex. There is no fitting it into a sound byte and adequately explaining our predicament.

The economy is on a 'sugar high' right now. Sure, paying lower taxes helped in the short run. But it won't last, can't last. Mark my words. A crash is coming. It is irresponsible to cut taxes so much that insufficient revenue is being collected. The thought of reducing spending is imaginary. Republicans have the votes to eliminate the dole. Force all the 'slackers' to work or starve. Why don't they cut that 'needless spending?' Because it isn't needless. It is needed to feed people. And their spending goes pretty much 100% right into the economy, unlike the rich who do not contribute as much to the economy since they don't spend as much of what they get.

The poor spend nearly everything they get.

The rich don't.

Cutting spending (taking money from the poor) takes away every dollar of cutting right out of economic spending.

Taxing the rich more (increasing revenue) doesn't hurt the economy as much because the rich don't spend their money. They invest it.

And then the argument is that investing creates jobs. No, it doesn't. Not any more. Because corporations already have so much money they have all the funds they need to build factories, create jobs. They don't, because they don't need more factories or more workers on a great enough scale to equal the revenue that taxing them more would generate. That's because there is no more unfulfilled demand for their products. That's because workers are not making much more money. Most Americans have very little savings. Until wages increase significantly, there will be no big increase in demand for products, no big reason for corporate expansion.

And that is shown by the fact that corporations did not expand when they got the big tax cut. What did they do with the money? They bought back their own stock. That made their stock prices soar. The market went up. Looks good on the books, so executives all got great big raises and bonuses. Workers got almost none of that. A few one-time small bonuses, mostly done for publicity.

The economy is going strong. GDP up at 3.9%. Great for Wall Street. But what about Main Street? Wages are only up 2.9%. That's barely enough to keep up with inflation. No virtual gain for workers. Big gains for the super-rich. And the US govt debt is rising too quickly. It is unsustainable. It can't last.

The economy is going to crash. It is only a matter of time.

It doesn't have to if we had responsible fiscal management. Republicans appear incapable of that. The President is building a giant house of cards and a big wind is beginning to stir. How high do you think the economy can go like this? It's going to crash hard. It's like we are building a great house, but we are using rotted termite-infested wood. It's gonna be the greatest house you ever saw. Nobody builds a house like this one. Fine, fine house. Bigger and more impressive than anything on the block. Better take a snap shot real quick. It won't last. A big fall is coming. Mark my words. The economy that Trump built is going to crash hard.
 
Here is a good website for keeping track of the debt and the deficit:

US Debt Clock

The debt is now nearly $21.5 Trillion. It was about $20 Trillion when Trump took over.

Notice the box with the deficit. It continues to rise.

That means the economy is not (as Republicans promised,) generating enough taxes to pay down the debt.

Democrats pointed this out when Republicans wanted to raid the piggy bank with the recent tax cut for the rich, but Republicans would not listen. Republicans said the expanding economy would make up for the shortfall. It hasn't. Republicans were wrong. The deficit continues to rise.

That's bad. It fell under Obama and Clinton.

Not only are we not paying down the debt, we continue to borrow more and more, just to run the government. We cannot live on borrowed tax cuts.

The situation cannot continue. We can not ignore this like the Republicans want to do. The Republican approach is irresponsible. We have to support Democrats who promise fiscal responsibility.

We have to raise taxes on the rich. They are the only ones with enough spare income to reverse this.

We would all do well to revisit the Powell Memorandum. The power structure was terrified of the social activism and political engagement of the population in the 1960-70s. One of the ways in which the power structure decided they could dissuade political involvement by the unsubstantial people was to tighten up the economic system such that the masses would not have as much free time to engage the system if they were under economic distress. And they took out mechanisms of collective action/power like labor unions while they organized into legislation writing think tanks.

Took a while, these things do, but they've gotten the system there.

I don't see the Dems as a legit check on any of this, but rather as in the "good cop" role of the charade. Until we the people go after the endless war economy, we'll be a nation of spineless sharecroppers accepting of subjugation.

The Pentagon cannot account for $21T it spent between 1998-2015. Empire is expensive, that's all, and people in power do not pay for empire, the peasants do.
 
Hello Jack,

The 'Shareholding/Ownership' Class thinks about themselves and their families. (Why would they concern themselves with the 'Serfs'?)

If they want to be patriotic they would care about the plight of all Americans.

What is good for Americans benefits everyone.

But some people are selfish. If they've already got their own, they don't care about helping anybody else. A strong nation cannot be built if everyone thought like that.

If our forefathers and founders thought like that, there would be no USA.


So, basically, the 'Shareholding/Ownership' Class could not exist if everyone thought like them. They are not contributing enough to the nation which allows them to be pampered. They want to take advantage of the nation that other people built, and then claim they built that. They are fooling themselves, and hurting their neighbors.
 
Hello anatta,

it's called a "regulatory enviornment" that business looks at. It's an ipso facto demonstration that business has improved thanks to deregulations ( as shown on the other thread - )

Fool's gold. It can't last. And it pretty much only benefits the super-rich.
 
Hello Jack,



If they want to be patriotic they would care about the plight of all Americans.

What is good for Americans benefits everyone.

But some people are selfish. If they've already got their own, they don't care about helping anybody else. A strong nation cannot be built if everyone thought like that.

If our forefathers and founders thought like that, there would be no USA.


So, basically, the 'Shareholding/Ownership' Class could not exist if everyone thought like them. They are not contributing enough to the nation which allows them to be pampered. They want to take advantage of the nation that other people built, and then claim they built that. They are fooling themselves, and hurting their neighbors.

They are 'Globalists'. They can live anywhere. 'Gold' is their 'God'.
 
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