we are at war with Russia

Matt Dillon said:
So you say, with nothing but rhetoric..

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Your claim, your burden of proof. Right now, Joe Biden is in the White House. So you lose.
 
Concart said:
Your claim, your burden of proof. Right now, Joe Biden is in the White House. So you lose.
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It's no wonder you chopped that actual relevant part of that post. The part talking about $5/gal gas and empty grocery store shelves.

Are you certain you want to continue to think it's smart to support Biden and Democrat election fraud?
 
dukkha said:
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday in Kyiv that
Washington wants to see Russian forces “weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-real-nuclear-war-risk-as-ukraine-talks-go-on

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned there’s a “serious” risk of nuclear war over Ukraine in a statement the U.S. blasted as the “height of irresponsibility.”

“The danger is serious, real. It can’t be underestimated,” Lavrov said in a state TV interview broadcast late Monday. Invoking the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, when the U.S. and the Soviet Union came close to nuclear war, he said that Moscow and Washington had understood the rules of conduct between the superpowers but “now there are few rules left.”

Russia will continue negotiations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s representatives to try to reach a peace agreement, Lavrov said.
It would be “useful” to hold discussions with the U.S. too, “but we don’t observe any interest on their part regarding contacts on Ukraine or on other issues.” Both sides have said the talks are at a dead end.

The Russian foreign minister’s comments were downplayed by U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who told TalkTV that Moscow wants “to present this as a confrontation between Russia and the West and Russia and NATO. That is emphatically not what is going on.”


Lavrov’s comment came after U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday in Kyiv that
The U.S. announced additional military aid for Ukraine as the war enters its 62nd day with Russian and Ukrainian armies facing off in the eastern Donbas region, where Moscow has regrouped its forces after failing to take Kyiv early in the invasion.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-real-nuclear-war-risk-as-ukraine-talks-go-on
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I support Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, in weakening and degrading Russia's military where they will be unable to threaten or invade any other countries, this should accomplished by years end if everyone keeps up the weapons shipments to Ukraine?!!
And with the crippling sanction, Russia will not have the funds to rearm too?!!
 
Althea said:
LMFAO.

I see you have long Covid.
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Cracka, pleeeeez :palm:


You DemSocLibs had a meltdown when Pres. Trump offered Zel the Javelins.

And you hated Zel for siding with Pres. Trump, against the 1st impeachment hoax.
 
Matt Dillon said:
It's no wonder you chopped that actual relevant part of that post. The part talking about $5/gal gas and empty grocery store shelves.

Are you certain you want to continue to think it's smart to support Biden and Democrat election fraud?
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Your brain is mush. Gas prices have nothing to do with whether the election was stolen or not. And it wasn't. But you are stupid enough to believe it was. Your problem not mine. Your claim, not mine. Got any evidence? Nope Next?

And I quoted you, you fucking retard. You added the rest after I'd posted. Fuck, could you get any dumber?
 
dukkha said:
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday in Kyiv that
Washington wants to see Russian forces “weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-real-nuclear-war-risk-as-ukraine-talks-go-on

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned there’s a “serious” risk of nuclear war over Ukraine in a statement the U.S. blasted as the “height of irresponsibility.”

“The danger is serious, real. It can’t be underestimated,” Lavrov said in a state TV interview broadcast late Monday. Invoking the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, when the U.S. and the Soviet Union came close to nuclear war, he said that Moscow and Washington had understood the rules of conduct between the superpowers but “now there are few rules left.”

Russia will continue negotiations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s representatives to try to reach a peace agreement, Lavrov said.
It would be “useful” to hold discussions with the U.S. too, “but we don’t observe any interest on their part regarding contacts on Ukraine or on other issues.” Both sides have said the talks are at a dead end.

The Russian foreign minister’s comments were downplayed by U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who told TalkTV that Moscow wants “to present this as a confrontation between Russia and the West and Russia and NATO. That is emphatically not what is going on.”


Lavrov’s comment came after U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday in Kyiv that
The U.S. announced additional military aid for Ukraine as the war enters its 62nd day with Russian and Ukrainian armies facing off in the eastern Donbas region, where Moscow has regrouped its forces after failing to take Kyiv early in the invasion.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-real-nuclear-war-risk-as-ukraine-talks-go-on
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Russians have known for a long time that bluster is an effective tactic with weak kneed morons like Biden and his administration. ;)
 
Cypress said:
You said the day of the invasion on February 25, when you thought Russian forces would just roll over Ukraine, that it was too late for Zalensky to negotiate.

Why did you change your tune in favor of negotiations only after Putin's military was humiliated?
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JFC. read it again. I was talking about preventing war and how BIDEN refused to negotiate BEFORE the war despite Russia asking for such many times.
talk about too late.

Biden has refused time after time to even negotiate with Putin on Russia's redlines
Biden dismisses them as unfounded, and instead extremely militarizes Ukraine
basically daring Putin to invade because Ukraine was so tilted towards NATO
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besides the topic is our war with Russia and our (still refusal) to negotiaite - we prefer to escalate
Today's topic: "we are at war with Russia", and you seem fine with it
 
signalmankenneth said:
I support Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, in weakening and degrading Russia's military where they will be unable to threaten or invade any other countries, this should accomplished by years end if everyone keeps up the weapons shipments to Ukraine?!!
And with the crippling sanction, Russia will not have the funds to rearm too?!!
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1 unequivocal vote for war with Russia
 
Legion said:
Defense Secretary Austin admits the US is a party to Ukraine warhttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/04/26/ukra-a26.html
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keep pounding on it. war weasels never want to admit its war.. now it's jjust to "degrade militarily" - but not war :rolleyes:
 
dukkha said:
JFC. read it again. I was talking about preventing war and how BIDEN refused to negotiate BEFORE the war despite Russia asking for such many times.


besides the topic is our war with Russia and our (still refusal) to negotiaite - we prefer to escalate
Today's topic: "we are at war with Russia", and you seem fine with it
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The fact is, the day of the Invasion you wrote it was too late for negotiations, obviously because you were eagerly anticipating Ukraine's quick surrender and submission.

Your enthusiasm for negotiations only really ramped up once Putin's forces were humiliated and repulsed.
 
Concart said:
Your brain is mush. Gas prices have nothing to do with whether the election was stolen or not. And it wasn't. But you are stupid enough to believe it was. Your problem not mine. Your claim, not mine. Got any evidence? Nope Next?

And I quoted you, you fucking retard. You added the rest after I'd posted. Fuck, could you get any dumber?
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Settle down, grandpa, before you have an aneurysm.

Biden set the policies that are tanking the world into motion his very 1st day in office.

These are 2 separate things..the election was stolen, and the Democrat installed puppet regime is the worst ever in America and almost everyone realizes it.

As for me adding it after you posted, let's see..

Your post=9:17 AM

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-are-at-war-with-Russia&p=5076776#post5076776

My last edit of that post=8:49 AM

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-are-at-war-with-Russia&p=5076773#post5076773



Therefore you are a liar and you know it was a lie,

Anyone can check, and fuck you, you lying shitbag.
 
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dukkha said:
that's the "cornered animal analogy" and yes its correct "what does he have to lose"
But the USA isn't just talking about defending Ukraine

The "shift in strategy" is now to permanently "degrade" Russia's military

Austin added a second goal: “We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.” That meant Russia should “not have the capability to very quickly reproduce” the forces and equipment that had been lost in Ukraine.

Blinken, who travelled with Austin to see Volodymyr Zelenskiy in Kyiv, agreed with his formulation of US objectives, saying: “I think the secretary said it very well”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/25/russia-weakedend-lloyd-austin-ukraine


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Remember early in the war when the talk was an "off ramp" for Putin? We dont want an off ramp.
we want to punish Russia and escalate Ukraine to a permanent threat to same
We are loving this proxy war, and we keep juicing it,, This is the USA leading war against Russia
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You sound a lot like Rand Paul trying to blame Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine as America’s, in particularly, Biden’s fault
 
Cypress said:
The fact is, the day of the Invasion you wrote it was too late for negotiations, obviously because you were eagerly anticipating Ukraine's quick surrender and submission.

Your enthusiasm for negotiations only really ramped up once Putin's forces were humiliated and repulsed.
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read it again.. i said none of what you are trying to overlay.
I wanted the war to not happen or to be exact to limit it to Donbas which Putin had just recognized if need be, because the war wasd already there, and the separatists have popular support in Donbas
at no point did i ever support the wide war in Ukriane
I blamed Biden for not even trying to negotiate. which is till the situation except for our escalation to war with Russia itself

None of which is the thread topic, but I wanted to give you courtesy of reply
It's very simple "we are at war with Russia"
If that is Ok with you, that's your business just dont try to skate past it..and expect me to continue to hammer the point
 
archives said:
You sound a lot like Rand Paul trying to blame Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine as America’s, in particularly, Biden’s fault
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see if you can keep 2 thoughts in your head

Putin invaded. It's on Putin
Biden refused to negotiate -he could have taken the Lavrov letters at face value but literally laughed them off
That and years before of NATO expansion was the "predicate"

so that takes care of "blame"..the point here now is we are at war with Russia -it's out in the open now
 
Matt Dillon said:
Settle down, grandpa, before you have an aneurysm.

Biden set the policies that are tanking the world into motion his very 1st day in office.

These are 2 separate things..the election was stolen, and the Democrat installed puppet regime is the worst ever in America and almost everyone realizes it.

As for me adding it after you posted, let's see..

Your post=9:17 AM

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-are-at-war-with-Russia&p=5076776#post5076776

My last edit of that post=8:49 AM

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-are-at-war-with-Russia&p=5076773#post5076773



Therefore you are a liar and you know it was a lie,

Anyone can check, and fuck you, you lying shitbag.
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ROTFLMFAO!!!! You really are that fucking stupid. No. My post was made at 11:35, you edited your post at 11:49. Fuck, you are just a drooling knuckledragging moron, aren't you.
 
dukkha said:
see if you can keep 2 thoughts in your head

Putin invaded. It's on Putin
Biden refused to negotiate -he could have taken the Lavrov letters at face value but literally laughed them off
That and years before of NATO expansion was the "predicate"

so that takes care of "blame"..the point here now is we are at war with Russia -it's out in the open now
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Should have laughed them off, Putin was building a massive invasion force on the borders with the Ukraine and requests for dialogue from Lavrov should be taken serious? Like Lavrov, aka Putin, had a history of honesty and sincerity?
 
Concart said:
ROTFLMFAO!!!! You really are that fucking stupid. No. My post was made at 11:35, you edited your post at 11:49. Fuck, you are just a drooling knuckledragging moron, aren't you.
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Welp, the clock on this forum for me is skewed. It says this post I just quoted, made by you, was made @ 10:04 AM.

I'll concede this, but I could swear the timestamp on your post said 9:17 AM

It's 1:30 here right now.

Our president is still a dumpster fire, and it will be getting worse before it gets better.

The best possible scenario for right now is 2/3 Senate majority for Republicans in November.

AND a Convention of the States to reign in the Senate and house lawmakers that voted themselves the Lords of America.

Any chance of a person your age un-becoming the asshat that you are is pretty much nil.
 
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Bigdog said:
Cracka, pleeeeez :palm:


You DemSocLibs had a meltdown when Pres. Trump offered Zel the Javelins.

And you hated Zel for siding with Pres. Trump, against the 1st impeachment hoax.
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Man, what a difference a couple decades make. :palm:

People done got stupid about so many things we took for granted. This shit needs to be unfucked!

 
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