yes, they did! ahahahahaha, good catch
Was Nixon a Socialist?
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christiefan915
Catalyst
But not on the national level.
christiefan915
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Oops!
ROTFLMAO!!!
My point about how you can belive anything regardless of the facts, even if you are a Republican.... is proven!
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The Almighty
Funny.... especially considering Carter had Democrats controlling BOTH houses of Congress his entire four years in office.
Yes...I posted in that particular thread myself....
...I saw where you posted (#75) that Barney Frank proposed oversight in 2007 and you claimed is wasn't passed by an R controlled Senate and R controlled House....when in fact....BOTH the house and Senate of the 110th Congress (1/4/2007- 1/3/2009) were controlled by the Democrats.
Its the little FU's that make you come to conclusions that are just plain WRONG....and being plain wrong is what makes you a Democrat.
Yes...I posted in that particular thread myself....
...I saw where you posted (#75) that Barney Frank proposed oversight in 2007 and you claimed is wasn't passed by an R controlled Senate and R controlled House....when in fact....BOTH the house and Senate of the 110th Congress (1/4/2007- 1/3/2009) were controlled by the Democrats.
Its the little FU's that make you come to conclusions that are just plain WRONG....and being plain wrong is what makes you a Democrat.
In that thread I said that oversight bills died in the Senate after passing the House in both the 109th and 110th Congress, which is true. You (and Damo) pretend(ed) that it was all the Democrat's fault when the truth is that both parties failed.
You and Rana just don't have any of reading comprehension, do you?...
Let me explain the chronology...
Originally Posted by Jarod View Post 4
I see the result differently, I belive that the economy was already improving due to the excellent management of president Carter, however like a large ship, it takes time to turn such a thing around.
Originally Posted by Jarod View Post 8
Yes, I belive that most of the policies Carter instituted were not Quick Fixes, they were fundamental changes in direction that took 2 to 3 even 4 years to take hold and result in signifigant results.
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SmarterThanYou said "here is your roaring Carter economy".....and posted a pic from 1973
Where is the "Oops" you think is so funny....?
Its a perfectly legitimate answer to Jarheads claims that Carters programs took so much time to be effective....
Are we gonna tap dance a little now...???
BOTH the house and Senate of the 110th Congress (1/4/2007- 1/3/2009) were controlled by the Democrats.
Not by Republicans as you claimed in you post 75 of that thread....
And the economic picture in 2003 was not the economic picture of 2007.....Bush warned of the meltdown to come and republican regulation efforts were ignored by Barney and the Democrats ...SEE THE VIDEO.....
And the video I posted speaks volumes about who is more responsible for the meltdown of the economy and Freddie and Fannie....
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Bush warned and talk is cheap, but not Bush talk, it usually ended up costing us more than it was worth!
Bfgrn
New member
I remember this speech. Too bad Americans are not mature enough to listen. I guess we need an actor to make us feel like he cares about the working man, while he destroys the middle class.
The President's Proposed Energy Policy
President Jimmy Carter - April 18, 1977
Tonight I want to have an unpleasant talk with you about a problem unprecedented in our history. With the exception of preventing war, this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes. The energy crisis has not yet overwhelmed us, but it will if we do not act quickly.
It is a problem we will not solve in the next few years, and it is likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century.
We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and grandchildren.
We simply must balance our demand for energy with our rapidly shrinking resources. By acting now, we can control our future instead of letting the future control us.
Two days from now, I will present my energy proposals to the Congress. Its members will be my partners and they have already given me a great deal of valuable advice. Many of these proposals will be unpopular. Some will cause you to put up with inconveniences and to make sacrifices.
The most important thing about these proposals is that the alternative may be a national catastrophe. Further delay can affect our strength and our power as a nation.
Our decision about energy will test the character of the American people and the ability of the President and the Congress to govern. This difficult effort will be the "moral equivalent of war" -- except that we will be uniting our efforts to build and not destroy.
I know that some of you may doubt that we face real energy shortages. The 1973 gasoline lines are gone, and our homes are warm again. But our energy problem is worse tonight than it was in 1973 or a few weeks ago in the dead of winter. It is worse because more waste has occurred, and more time has passed by without our planning for the future. And it will get worse every day until we act.
The oil and natural gas we rely on for 75 percent of our energy are running out. In spite of increased effort, domestic production has been dropping steadily at about six percent a year. Imports have doubled in the last five years. Our nation's independence of economic and political action is becoming increasingly constrained. Unless profound changes are made to lower oil consumption, we now believe that early in the 1980s the world will be demanding more oil that it can produce.
Whole speech...
"The equal rights of man, and the happiness of every individual, are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of government. Modern times have the signal advantage, too, of having discovered the only device by which these rights can be secured, to wit: government by the people, acting not in person, but by representatives chosen by themselves, that is to say, by every man of ripe years and sane mind, who contributes either by his purse or person to the support of his country." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823. ME 15:482
That's because you ignore the significant historical references where I point out where he failed, how he failed, and if he had been a solid leader how he could have succeeded. I also point out why the next President was able to succeed even though he had a split congress (and one that was majority opposition his first two years).
Carter was such a poor leader that, much like Bush, when he tried to pass good policy like getting off dependency to foreign oil, he wasn't even able to get his majorities in both houses of congress to go along. Bush had this same problem when he foresaw the Fannie and Freddie fiasco. On another day I pointed out how Bush warned congress while Barney Frank and others cheered on F&F. Of course, now that we are a bit further out I am able to look back and see the truly crappy leadership, he should have been more forceful and had he been a capable leader he could have done us some good.
Bush had the ability to at least mitigate this downturn, but he was such a poor leader he couldn't even get majorities in both houses to follow him when he was pointing in the right direction. This is the same thing that happened to Carter.
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
you are seriously deluded.
here is your roaring carter economy.
I remember.
Just as if it were yesterday.
Odd #s one day. Even #s the next day.