Was Dixie right?

apparently damo still has some of that either for us or against us illogic in his head. I am against the current Republican regeim, not for demoncrats.
 
uscitizen said:
You can throw you vote away on the libertarian party if you wish.
My attitude of voting for anyone who has a chance of beating the repubs next time in the presidential race is not partisan, just anti republican.
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The whole "throw it away" thing is also rubbish. A person who votes usually for one party and chooses to vote differently is not throwing a vote away. It does send a message regardless of who I choose to vote for. I am anti-Democrat in that effect. I am not going to punish myself by voting for somebody I disagree with just because I don't want to vote for a neocon.

However, being anti-"this party" so I am going to vote specifically "this party", as the parties are the central theme of the sentence, is a partisan remark.

The idea that something defined by party in such a way is not partisan is silly. There are sometimes good reasons for being partisan that way...
 
uscitizen said:
apparently damo still has some of that either for us or against us illogic in his head. I am against the current Republican regeim, not for demoncrats.
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I understand that. I too am against that regime. I do, however, fully understand by choosing to vote for a specific party because I don't want another is a statement that is defined by party and is therefore partisan.
 
maineman said:
damo...why do you continue to act as if "partisan" is a dirty word?

Are you incapable of understanding how someone might sincerely and honestly want what is best for America and also happen to believe that the best way to make that happen in today's political system is by being partisan?
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I am not. I am specifically stating that there can be good reasons for being partisan. So, clearly you simply misread my statement.

I did not answer to your statement specifically because I thought you would read one of my posts including the statement that "partisan" in itself is not evil. It is uscit that seems to make "partisan" a sin he wants to avoid, so he makes a statement specific to party then attempts to say it isn't partisan.
 
It is perhaps partisan in result, but not partisan by intent.
After all we only have 2 viable parties, so if a person is against one they must be partisan for the other one , right ? :rolleyes:
 
uscitizen said:
It is perhaps partisan in result, but not partisan by intent.
After all we only have 2 viable parties, so if a person is against one they must be partisan for the other one , right ? :rolleyes:
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Or they can choose to vote for a third party when they usually would vote for one or the other of the viable parties, basically taking a vote from where it would normally have gone. This too adds to the votes that were not "for" somebody.

But that is what I meant when I said that it is a partisan statement. A statement defined by party is a partisan statement regardless of whether the person making it is a partisan hack or a moderate independant.
 
I am as partisan as the day is long.... and I will invariably vote for the democrat in any and all races. WHy? Because as I have said time and time again...politics is a team sport. I want the democratic team to win, because I believe in what the democratic team stands for. I would rather have a mediocre democratic legislator that voted with his caucus than a brilliant charismatic and wise republican who voted against democratic initiatives.
 
OK let me revise my origional statement to read:
I will vote for any viable (chance of winning) presidential candidate that is not a republilcan.

Not partisan, but means exactly the same thing as my origional statement.
 
Dixie said:
Clinton - out ...Never count a Clinton out.
Biden - out ...Probably so.
Obama - strong maybe, but we'll see Nope... Dems won't nominate a black man, they've already said so.
Clark - Still a strong candidate ...who's never won a primary.
Gore - Good candidate ...couldn't win his home state.
Dean - Good candidate ...Yeeeehahhhhhhhh! .....next?
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See Dixie's predictions about the 08' race!!!!
 
Dixie said:
Well, you can make fun of Dean's scream all you want, but scream or not, he was right from day one. You're blue-jeaned bandit was wrong.

I disagree. But, I will make fun of his scream, and he will never win the nomination of the party because of it.

Gore won the popular vote.

Yes, but that was before he bloated, have you seen him lately? He isn't going to win any elected office looking like that.

Clark this is true of clark, but I still think he's a contender.

Based on what?

Obama is not far behind despite your smear tactics he's not far behind http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/01/poll.2008/index.html,

Smear tactics? No smear tactic, just the truth... he won't win the nomination because he is a black man, they have already said as much. Yes... that carrot doesn't look too far in front of him, I'll admit.... duh! Once again, the Liberal Elite are playing you like a Stradavarius, and you are buying into it. At BEST Obama will be Billary's running mate... (if they don't mysteriously find him dead in a park somewhere.)

Biden - we agree,

Amazing, in of itself!

and Clinton - depsite her current surge in the polls I don't think the dems will nominate her. She's moved away from her base over the last few years.

Hillary is the only potential candidate able reach the brain-dead Republicrats like Beefy and Robdawg, and tap into some sort of quasi-conservative base. She is the only candidate with any sort of momentum outside the left wing, and most of that is because of careful political posturing. I don't know if she can win the nomination, but I'll tell you this... I wouldn't count her out. She has the most money, and the most clout going into this thing... and she is one shrewd politician with the best political strategists in the world in her corner... not to mention the Power of Bill...


Let me cut to the chase and tell you how this will go down... The Democrats will begin to have primaries, and Hillary will become the front-runner, and it will become apparent that she is going to be the Democratic nominee.... then suddenly, Lady T, Maine, Care, Desh, Ornut, Jarhead, uscidiot, Beefy, Rob.... you will all genuflect toward the Godess of Hillary, and we'll all have to hear how you justify your changed view of Hillary, based on what she 'stands for'... blah blah... frikin blah! THAT's how it will play out and you know it!
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Another interesting Dixie Prediction about 08'!
 
maineman said:
Obama - strong maybe, but we'll see Nope... Dems won't nominate a black man, they've already said so.


why must you LIE like that? Obama is as viable a candidate as anyone. NO one has said that we WON'T nominate Barak. You are such a bag of shit
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Maineman was correct! Dixie was WRONG!
 
Southern Man said:
Jarod you realize you've sided with a known pervert, don't you? :palm:
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1) I have not sided with anyone, I simply pointed out that Dixie was WRONG.

2) I did not get into the Maineman was a pervert stuff, thats all just silly drama to me, it does not affect his political views and thats why we are here.
 
Jarod said:
1) I have not sided with anyone, I simply pointed out that Dixie was WRONG.

2) I did not get into the Maineman was a pervert stuff, thats all just silly drama to me, it does not affect his political views and thats why we are here.
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So you've never been wrong? Mainemans a known pervert so just let it go.
 
Southern Man said:
So you've never been wrong? Mainemans a known pervert so just let it go.
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He simply said Maineman was right and Dixie was wrong. This was a discussion of a single topic. Maineman's perversions were never a part of the discussion until you brought them into it.

This fixation you have on everyone else's sex life is unhealthy.
 
Typical of social conservatives to be obsessed with the sex lives of others....
 
Jarod said:
Typical of social conservatives to be obsessed with the sex lives of others....
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I'm obsessed with the truth, which is that the man was a pervert, banned from this board and many others for his disgusting attacks on the young children of posters that he lost debates with.
 
Southern Man said:
I'm obsessed with the truth, which is that the man was a pervert, banned from this board and many others for his disgusting attacks on the young children of posters that he lost debates with.
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And he was correct when Dixie was WRONG!
 
WinterBorn said:
He simply said Maineman was right and Dixie was wrong. This was a discussion of a single topic. Maineman's perversions were never a part of the discussion until you brought them into it.

This fixation you have on everyone else's sex life is unhealthy.
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Jarod: "Typical of social conservatives to be obsessed with the sex lives of others.... "
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Who the f knows what causes the fixations and obsessions? I'll let psychologists ponder that freaky sh*t. But it was awesome how maineman routinely made Dixie look like a fool. That was good times!
 
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