WaPo OpEd: Trump’s battle to destroy the Mueller investigation is officially doomed

Nomad

Every trumper is a N4T.
One must admit though, it's been endlessly entertaining to watch the buffoon slowly and publicly implode.

:laugh:

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Trump’s battle to destroy the Mueller investigation is officially doomed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...e-mueller-investigation-is-officially-doomed/

By Paul Waldman
Opinion writer
November 16 at 2:26 PM

President Trump’s long struggle to destroy Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into the Russia scandal is officially over.

The president himself might not quite realize it yet, and he probably doesn’t understand why it happened. But he has lost that conflict, and the reason is simple: His attempts to fight Mueller were so ham-handed and so public that it made it impossible for him and his administration to shut Mueller down.

The president is simply incapable of subtlety and judges everything by how it plays out in the media. But in this case, the more attention he drew to his rage at Mueller, the greater the consequences of moving against Mueller became. And now it’s too late.

Look, for example, at the way he handled Attorney General Jeff Sessions. It was precisely because Trump complained publicly so many times that he was livid with Sessions for recusing himself from the Russia probe — which made it clear that he wanted Sessions to oversee it so Sessions could shut it down — that it became impossible to fire Sessions before the midterm elections. Those public statements created a situation where firing Sessions would create a backlash from Republican senators and a huge media scandal, since Trump himself had all but said it would be for the purpose of obstructing justice.

It was July 2017, sixteen months ago, when Trump told the New York Times that if he had known Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation he never never would have hired him. But it was that very statement that made it so much harder to do what what he wanted and fire Sessions. So months passed while Mueller was diligently working away — amassing evidence, turning witnesses and handing down indictments — and Trump could fire Sessions only after the midterms were over.

Then when he finally did it, Trump once again acted without any subtlety or understanding of how his moves would be interpreted publicly, installing Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general likely in no small part because of Whitaker’s apparent hostility to the Mueller investigation. But Whitaker became so controversial so quickly that it’s now impossible for him to fulfill Trump’s wishes without, once again, causing a huge media scandal. Whitaker now seems to feel that his hands are tied on this matter; the AP reports that “Whitaker told Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham in a meeting on Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation will proceed.”

And now, Republicans in the Senate are pushing the administration to find a new attorney general who can be confirmed quickly — which means someone who will pledge in their confirmation hearings not to interfere in the Mueller investigation:

Even after Trump’s latest attack on Mueller in a flurry of tweets Thursday, most Republicans argue the president will not fire Mueller or derail his investigation because the political consequences would be too great.

But they said that naming an attorney general nominee as soon as possible — specifically one who would vow to preserve the Russia probe — would go a long way in halting legislative momentum to protect Mueller and Democratic messaging that acting attorney general Matt Whitaker will undermine the investigation.

“If we had some confidence that there is somebody nominated that would be confirmed in a reasonable period of time, to me it seems like it would relieve a lot of the controversy,” said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn of Texas, who predicted that Whitaker, who was openly critical of the Mueller probe before Trump tapped him for the job, is “not going to be there long.”

Meanwhile, all indications are that after a long period of silence during the close of the midterm campaign, Mueller is about to do something big, or a series of somethings. Trump’s former factotum Michael Cohen was spotted Monday coming to Washington with one of his criminal defense lawyers. Paul Manafort has held multiple meetings in recent weeks with Mueller’s team. On Wednesday, Mueller asked the court to delay sentencing for former Trump aide Rick Gates, saying Gates “continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations.” Trump’s orbit is reportedly gripped by anxiety about what’s coming.

When Trump lashes out on Twitter in increasingly hysterical terms as he did Thursday, it might (as many have speculated) suggest that he knows something bad is coming his way. But his anger comes from impotence. If he knew he was about to get his way with Mueller, he wouldn’t be shouting about it on Twitter. It’s the fact that he can’t do anything about it that fills him with rage.

We don’t know how many more Trump aides will wind up serving time behind bars, what Mueller’s final conclusions will be or how much the president himself will be implicated in the scandal. What we do know is that Trump wanted to stop the investigation, and not only has he failed, he has made everything worse for himself.
 
“Hey Russia, please steal Hillary Clinton’s private emails and use them to elect me so your enemy can be led by a big dummy who you can extort”

Nope nothing subtle about Trump. Seriously, why are we even investigating him. He should be summarily executed for treason based on the crime he openly committed. If he had sent that quote above in an email to Putin instead of just shouting it in a speech he’d be convicted. Why is it less egregious when his crimes are public? I don’t get it.
 
“Hey Russia, please steal Hillary Clinton’s private emails and use them to elect me so your enemy can be led by a big dummy who you can extort”

Nope nothing subtle about Trump. Seriously, why are we even investigating him. He should be summarily executed for treason based on the crime he openly committed. If he had sent that quote above in an email to Putin instead of just shouting it in a speech he’d be convicted. Why is it less egregious when his crimes are public? I don’t get it.
a conspiracy would be by Email or subterfuge for corrupt gains.

The fact Trump just threw it out there in his usual steam of conscious campaign mode
means it was just campaign rhetoric.
Nobody took it seriously at the time and never would have if not for Strzok/Mueller fake Russian collusion charges.

It was a public Putin put on.
 
a conspiracy would be by Email or subterfuge for corrupt gains.

The fact Trump just threw it out there in his usual steam of conscious campaign mode
means it was just campaign rhetoric.
Nobody took it seriously at the time and never would have if not for Strzok/Mueller fake Russian collusion charges.

It was a public Putin put on.


LOL
 
“Hey Russia, please steal Hillary Clinton’s private emails and use them to elect me so your enemy can be led by a big dummy who you can extort”

Nope nothing subtle about Trump. Seriously, why are we even investigating him. He should be summarily executed for treason based on the crime he openly committed. If he had sent that quote above in an email to Putin instead of just shouting it in a speech he’d be convicted. Why is it less egregious when his crimes are public? I don’t get it.

It is not that the asshole made that plea in public, but afterward, Repubs voted for him seeing it as presidential.
 
a conspiracy would be by Email or subterfuge for corrupt gains.

The fact Trump just threw it out there in his usual steam of conscious campaign mode
means it was just campaign rhetoric.
Nobody took it seriously at the time and never would have if not for Strzok/Mueller fake Russian collusion charges.

It was a public Putin put on.

Bullshit. Putin took it as serious and Dems saw it as problematic. It has been reported that Russian attempts at hacking Hillary started the next day. Trump steps over the line over and over and reds just and wave it away. Trump is dangerous to the American system.
 
Bullshit. Putin took it as serious and Dems saw it as problematic. It has been reported that Russian attempts at hacking Hillary started the next day. Trump steps over the line over and over and reds just and wave it away. Trump is dangerous to the American system.
Hillarys Emails was hacked/exposed by her crappy server for years.
Do you seriously think da Russians would all of suddenly say "hey why didn't we think of this?"
If they hacked the same day they were already able to hack.

Now you're gonna tell me this was Russian collusion no doubt :palm:
 
Hillarys Emails was hacked/exposed by her crappy server for years.
Do you seriously think da Russians would all of suddenly say "hey why didn't we think of this?"
If they hacked the same day they were already able to hack.

Now you're gonna tell me this was Russian collusion no doubt :palm:

russians put ballot boxes in the back of rental cars in florida.
 
a conspiracy would be by Email or subterfuge for corrupt gains.

The fact Trump just threw it out there in his usual steam of conscious campaign mode
means it was just campaign rhetoric.
Nobody took it seriously at the time and never would have if not for Strzok/Mueller fake Russian collusion charges.

It was a public Putin put on.

Nobody should take anything Trump says seriously.
 
“Hey Russia, please steal Hillary Clinton’s private emails and use them to elect me so your enemy can be led by a big dummy who you can extort”

Nope nothing subtle about Trump. Seriously, why are we even investigating him. He should be summarily executed for treason based on the crime he openly committed. If he had sent that quote above in an email to Putin instead of just shouting it in a speech he’d be convicted. Why is it less egregious when his crimes are public? I don’t get it.

Why didn't your house burn down?
 
“Hey Russia, please steal Hillary Clinton’s private emails and use them to elect me so your enemy can be led by a big dummy who you can extort”

Nope nothing subtle about Trump. Seriously, why are we even investigating him. He should be summarily executed for treason based on the crime he openly committed. If he had sent that quote above in an email to Putin instead of just shouting it in a speech he’d be convicted. Why is it less egregious when his crimes are public? I don’t get it.

Actually, even if Trump emailed the request it wouldn’t be a crime.

For the umpteenth time, collusion is not a crime. Is it a crime to joke about Russians releasing emails against a political opponent? Apparently, about half the country and the lame stream media think so. A crime would be if the Trump campaign aided and abetted *in theft* of the emails. Theft is a crime. Collusion isn’t. But I’m pretty sure the Russians didn’t need Trump’s people for that lol.

If I wanted Hillary’s emails I would have went to Assange. Why don’t they interview him instead of Junior? Afraid they may find out something they don’t want to hear?

It’s amazing that so many people don’t get such an obvious tongue in cheek remark made during a campaign speech by Trump.

If democrats are desperate to uncover a crime committed during the election they should sniff around the DNC/Hillary campaign. I absolutely guarantee they could find one or two crimes that have actual statutes attached to them.
 
Actually, even if Trump emailed the request it wouldn’t be a crime.

For the umpteenth time, collusion is not a crime. Is it a crime to joke about Russians releasing emails against a political opponent? Apparently, about half the country and the lame stream media think so. A crime would be if the Trump campaign aided and abetted *in theft* of the emails. Theft is a crime. Collusion isn’t. But I’m pretty sure the Russians didn’t need Trump’s people for that lol.

If I wanted Hillary’s emails I would have went to Assange. Why don’t they interview him instead of Junior? Afraid they may find out something they don’t want to hear?

It’s amazing that so many people don’t get such an obvious tongue in cheek remark made during a campaign speech by Trump.

If democrats are desperate to uncover a crime committed during the election they should sniff around the DNC/Hillary campaign. I absolutely guarantee they could find one or two crimes that have actual statutes attached to them.

They get it, but are so desperate for some shit, any shit, to stick to the wall that they pretend otherwise. Apart from the likes of Desh of course, who lives in a world of her own. She is a true testament to the fact that smoking too much dope causes intense paranoia.
 
They get it, but are so desperate for some shit, any shit, to stick to the wall that they pretend otherwise. Apart from the likes of Desh of course, who lives in a world of her own. She is a true testament to the fact that smoking too much dope causes intense paranoia.

I find it a tad suspicious that they shut Assange down about the time he was making noise about the emails resulting from a leak and not a hack.

Also, I’m wondering if someone on the inside didn’t purposely leak the sealed indictment in order to force them to interview Assange. Anyone who wants to know the truth about the emails will advocate for Assange getting immunity in order to settle the email issue, once and for all.

Let’s see how many lefty takers there are on that.
 
Hillarys Emails was hacked/exposed by her crappy server for years.
Do you seriously think da Russians would all of suddenly say "hey why didn't we think of this?"
If they hacked the same day they were already able to hack.

Now you're gonna tell me this was Russian collusion no doubt :palm:

a conspiracy would be by Email or subterfuge for corrupt gains.

The fact Trump just threw it out there in his usual steam of conscious campaign mode
means it was just campaign rhetoric.
Nobody took it seriously at the time and never would have if not for Strzok/Mueller fake Russian collusion charges.

It was a public Putin put on.

If Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat candidate had made such a public comment during an election campaign, whether they won or not, you and your fellow right-wing scum would still be howling about it non-stop a hundred years from now.

If any Democrat was half as cozy with Russia as Trump is, you fucks would have them permanently tattooed and branded as "commie red".

Your transparently phony bullshit holds no water around here.
 
If Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat candidate had made such a public comment during an election campaign, whether they won or not, you and your fellow right-wing scum would still be howling about it non-stop a hundred years from now.

If any Democrat was half as cozy with Russia as Trump is, you fucks would have them permanently tattooed and branded as "commie red".

Your transparently phony bullshit holds no water around here.
indeed we would have howled at such campaign rhetoric -but would not have been so silly as to take it seriously as collusion etc.
You guys are so full of TDS you can't put it in perspective.

No. on Russia and "cozy".
I wish they were communicating more and Russiaphobia didn't stalk the land but any attempt at detente are welcome
 
indeed we would have howled at such campaign rhetoric -but would not have been so silly as to take it seriously as collusion etc.
You guys are so full of TDS you can't put it in perspective.

No. on Russia and "cozy".
I wish they were communicating more and Russiaphobia didn't stalk the land but any attempt at detente are welcome

you're delusional

Nah, Trump and his campaign flunkies didn't work with the Russians to 'win' the election, that's all left wing propaganda to get revenge for Hillary's 'loss'

your party of traitors and scum are in for a rough 2019 pal, get over it
 
indeed we would have howled at such campaign rhetoric -but would not have been so silly as to take it seriously as collusion etc.
You guys are so full of TDS you can't put it in perspective.

No. on Russia and "cozy".
I wish they were communicating more and Russiaphobia didn't stalk the land but any attempt at detente are welcome

Trump was absolutely making a joke—and it was on Hillary!

It was Hillary who exercised ‘extreme carelessness’ with her emails and classified information. Anyone reading this would be doing time for that—and everyone reading this knows it.

The biggest outrage isn’t Trump or Trump’s rhetoric about Russians releasing Hillary’s emails—it’s that there’s a clear two-tiered justice system in this country.

And half the country is okay with it. That, is the outage.
 
One must admit though, it's been endlessly entertaining to watch the buffoon slowly and publicly implode.

:laugh:

*************************************************
Trump’s battle to destroy the Mueller investigation is officially doomed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...e-mueller-investigation-is-officially-doomed/

By Paul Waldman
Opinion writer
November 16 at 2:26 PM

President Trump’s long struggle to destroy Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into the Russia scandal is officially over.

The president himself might not quite realize it yet, and he probably doesn’t understand why it happened. But he has lost that conflict, and the reason is simple: His attempts to fight Mueller were so ham-handed and so public that it made it impossible for him and his administration to shut Mueller down.

The president is simply incapable of subtlety and judges everything by how it plays out in the media. But in this case, the more attention he drew to his rage at Mueller, the greater the consequences of moving against Mueller became. And now it’s too late.

Look, for example, at the way he handled Attorney General Jeff Sessions. It was precisely because Trump complained publicly so many times that he was livid with Sessions for recusing himself from the Russia probe — which made it clear that he wanted Sessions to oversee it so Sessions could shut it down — that it became impossible to fire Sessions before the midterm elections. Those public statements created a situation where firing Sessions would create a backlash from Republican senators and a huge media scandal, since Trump himself had all but said it would be for the purpose of obstructing justice.

It was July 2017, sixteen months ago, when Trump told the New York Times that if he had known Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation he never never would have hired him. But it was that very statement that made it so much harder to do what what he wanted and fire Sessions. So months passed while Mueller was diligently working away — amassing evidence, turning witnesses and handing down indictments — and Trump could fire Sessions only after the midterms were over.

Then when he finally did it, Trump once again acted without any subtlety or understanding of how his moves would be interpreted publicly, installing Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general likely in no small part because of Whitaker’s apparent hostility to the Mueller investigation. But Whitaker became so controversial so quickly that it’s now impossible for him to fulfill Trump’s wishes without, once again, causing a huge media scandal. Whitaker now seems to feel that his hands are tied on this matter; the AP reports that “Whitaker told Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham in a meeting on Thursday that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation will proceed.”

And now, Republicans in the Senate are pushing the administration to find a new attorney general who can be confirmed quickly — which means someone who will pledge in their confirmation hearings not to interfere in the Mueller investigation:

Even after Trump’s latest attack on Mueller in a flurry of tweets Thursday, most Republicans argue the president will not fire Mueller or derail his investigation because the political consequences would be too great.

But they said that naming an attorney general nominee as soon as possible — specifically one who would vow to preserve the Russia probe — would go a long way in halting legislative momentum to protect Mueller and Democratic messaging that acting attorney general Matt Whitaker will undermine the investigation.

“If we had some confidence that there is somebody nominated that would be confirmed in a reasonable period of time, to me it seems like it would relieve a lot of the controversy,” said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn of Texas, who predicted that Whitaker, who was openly critical of the Mueller probe before Trump tapped him for the job, is “not going to be there long.”

Meanwhile, all indications are that after a long period of silence during the close of the midterm campaign, Mueller is about to do something big, or a series of somethings. Trump’s former factotum Michael Cohen was spotted Monday coming to Washington with one of his criminal defense lawyers. Paul Manafort has held multiple meetings in recent weeks with Mueller’s team. On Wednesday, Mueller asked the court to delay sentencing for former Trump aide Rick Gates, saying Gates “continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations.” Trump’s orbit is reportedly gripped by anxiety about what’s coming.

When Trump lashes out on Twitter in increasingly hysterical terms as he did Thursday, it might (as many have speculated) suggest that he knows something bad is coming his way. But his anger comes from impotence. If he knew he was about to get his way with Mueller, he wouldn’t be shouting about it on Twitter. It’s the fact that he can’t do anything about it that fills him with rage.

We don’t know how many more Trump aides will wind up serving time behind bars, what Mueller’s final conclusions will be or how much the president himself will be implicated in the scandal. What we do know is that Trump wanted to stop the investigation, and not only has he failed, he has made everything worse for himself.

I voted EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
indeed we would have howled at such campaign rhetoric -but would not have been so silly as to take it seriously as collusion etc.
You guys are so full of TDS you can't put it in perspective.

No. on Russia and "cozy".
I wish they were communicating more and Russiaphobia didn't stalk the land but any attempt at detente are welcome

Ha, you "wish". Twinkle, twinkle little putz.
 
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