Volodymyr Zelensky Says Ukraine Won't Join NATO

anatta said:
too late. Ukraine is indeed a defcto NATO state. If Biden would have led negotiations months ago when Russia was pleading.\but he didn't and now Uk is as well armed as any NATO state
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Now it is NATO and Biden's fault that Russia invaded the Ukraine?

Lets hear the logic in that one
 
anatta said:
too late. Ukraine is indeed a defcto NATO state. If Biden would have led negotiations months ago when Russia was pleading.\but he didn't and now Uk is as well armed as any NATO state
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Which is why one guy in Ukraine saying that Ukraine will not join NATO is but a first step. Russia needs promises from the oligarchs who run Ukraine in spite of all the jabber that Ukraine is a democracy that they will stop poking the Bear, that they have learned their lesson.
 
archives said:
Now it is NATO and Biden's fault that Russia invaded the Ukraine?

Lets hear the logic in that one
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simplistic trash..who claimed NATO is at fault for the wwar?
NATO expansion is a predicate - but not the fault- that's on Putin

you have no idea of the history of the Maidan, threatening the lease at Sevastopol
"fuck the EU" (Nuland) or refusing to negotiate Russian security needs
 
They should have every right to join NATO if they want to.

They shouldn't have to make concessions to a lunatic bully who is nostalgic about the old Soviet days.
 
anatta said:
simplistic trash..who claimed NATO is at fault for the wwar?
NATO expansion is a predicate - but not the fault- that's on Putin

you have no idea of the history of the Maidan, threatening the lease at Sevastopol
"fuck the EU" (Nuland) or refusing to negotiate Russian security needs
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quit your yammering and tell me about all that super duper armor Vlad sent to murder Ukrainians

what were you saying? lol
 
reagansghost said:
quit your yammering and tell me about all that super duper armor Vlad sent to murder Ukrainians

what were you saying? lol
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are you this stupid or just a bad memory on top of it all?

What did I tell you. I said it's a T-72 variant and not old "Soviet armor"
The overall design hasnt changed but there are vast improvements. I even gave you a link on the specs

You are supposed to be the tank expert. I said I wasn't .

WHAT CHANCE does ANY TANK HAVE AGAINST A JAVELIN?? ?
none that I know of since the wireless TOW drops down on the lid.

So Mr. 'Expert on tanks'- would any US tank survive?
No- they work on virtually any tank out there—it hits them on the thinner top armor

Meaning your dismissal of "Soviet" tanks survivability is as stupid as all your yammerings
 
Barfly said:
They should have every right to join NATO if they want to.

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Just like Grenada had every right to build an airstrip with Cuban help if they wanted to?
 
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