Virginia return names of Stonewall Jackson Robert E Lee to two schools

Grokmaster said:

DUMBFUCK. Neither of those men fought to "preserve slavery"; they fought to preserve the states' rights as listed in the US Constitution, the right to secede from the union.
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Indeed, even if Marty was bright enough to understand that, he wouldn't admit it.
 
Grokmaster said:

DUMBFUCK. Neither of those men fought to "preserve slavery"; they fought to preserve the states' rights as listed in the US Constitution, the right to secede from the union.
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Your post is a reminder that without history dunces today's Right wing would all but disappear.
 
Earl said:
I see I was right, Marty, you aren’t bright enough understand it and you won’t admit it.
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I'm certainly brighter than you. But if you're "seeing" you were right in the context of this exchange: 1) It begs the question to say states had a right under the Constitution to secede. There was no right, merely the claim that since they joined on their own volition they retained an implicit right to leave. The question is why did they secede. 2) Virtually every Civil War historian will tell you that issues surrounding slavery were the primary cause of secession, the South's sense of grievance on the issue having become acerbated by Lincoln's election following the admissions of new states as free states from territory taken from Mexico in 1849 war which completely upset the balance in Congress between free and slave states. If you think the South wasn't morally comfortable about slavery read the Declaration of Secession issued by the legislature of South Carolina, the state that led the bandwagon.
 
christiefan915 said:
For the same reason other people use insults and slurs to their own race, ethnicity or religion. I'm sure you've heard of Poles, Hispanics, Chinese etc. referring to their own as "that dumb Polack," "chink," "spic" etc. If you're not one of them, you don't culturally appropriate their insults.
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not insulting to their face. But I've got Polish blood and never took any personal offence
back when Polock jokes were the rage (dating myself)

You dont own your culture to the point is excludes others from using it (culturally appropriate)
Intercultural experiences are essential for assimilation
 
martin said:
The vice chairman of the school board said he thought those who objected to a name celebrating a general who helped lead a war to preserve slavery are "creepy" and from "the dark side".
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He may lose his seat on the school board come next election. Fuck the "insulted."
 
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