Vigilante gun Nut KILLS Innocent Man

Taichiliberal said:
One or two cops in uniform armed with batons. tasers and guns are more likely to confront and force a perp like this to an arrest rather than a fatal shooting. An untrained civilian is more likely to get the results in the story. If getting killed for boosting a what, less than $10 worth of merchandise is acceptable to some folk, then our society is indeed on the highway to hell.
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So you're suggesting that if he attacks 1 or 2 Cops with a club, that he won't get shot.
This might be true, if they Tazed his stupid ass; but since most civilians don't carry Tazors, he gambled and lost.
So sad
Too bad
Sucks to be him
 
Taichiliberal said:
Actually, BLM is saying that the continuing/increasing incidents of cops killing BLACK people as opposed to non-black folk FOR THE SAME OFFENSE is the problem. That being said, you have justified shootings of perps by cops in the aforementioned scenario, but tasers are usually the first line of defense.
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What does the Bureau of Land Management have to do with this?? :dunno:

Maybe - just maybe - it's because BLACK people seem to want to ATTACK armed Cops, more then non-black people do; even if it's the same offense that got the Cops involved.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
Freak, you are stubborn to the point of insipidness as the FACTS PROVE THAT ZIMMERMAN INITIATED THE ENTIRE INCIDENT WHEN HE STARTED TAILING MARTIN, WAS DISCOVERED, TOLD NOT TO FOLLOW FURTHER, AND CONTINUED TO DO SO. His injuries were NOT as dire as he wanted all to believe....and the bottom line was Martin had a final altercation with a ARMED stranger tailing him FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN SUSPICION. Deal with it.
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You fucking lie, you miserable piece of shit.
He was not TOLD NOT TO FOLLOW FURTHER.
Now go and whine some more.
 
Superfreak said:
Yes... Zim followed him... Zim lost him... Martin came back and confronted Zim. Martin then attacked Zim. Martin then beat Zims head against the ground.

He was not innocent by any stretch of the imagination. That said, I am not going to redebate the criminal actions of Martin over and over and over again. You are wrong. Period. He was not murdered, a jury determined that. You knee jerk reacted to the case and now you simply cannot admit the evidence showed you were wrong.
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And don't forget that Brown was EXECUTED; by being shot in the top of his head, while he was KNEELING on the ground, after he put his hands up and surrendered. :palm:
 
Superfreak said:
Following someone does not give Martin the right to attack. Period. You then try to belittle the injuries because you want to pretend Martin was an innocent in the situation.

When Zimmerman was told not to follow, he stated that he had LOST Martin. MARTIN then came back and confronted Zimmerman. Martin initiated the confrontation that led to his death.

Period.
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You're falling into their rhetoric; because he wasn't told "not to follow".
 
Superfreak said:
Hmmm... one guy was on a bike, the other on foot carrying stolen beer. Probably not a lot of distance between the two.
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How about this detail? ONE man (the shooter) followed him to the back of a shop. Nowhere do we have a witness who saw Ramon pick up a log and charge the shooter. All we have is the shooter's word for it.

"Several people watched Ramon walk away from a convenience store with the beer without paying, police said, and some of them followed him out. One man followed Ramon across a major intersection and to the back of an auto repair shop. That’s when Ramon picked up a log and may have charged the man, police said."


http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news...cle_02d50058-9e45-11e5-8129-fbacf46ad855.html
 
christiefan915 said:
How about this detail? ONE man (the shooter) followed him to the back of a shop. Nowhere do we have a witness who saw Ramon pick up a log and charge the shooter. All we have is the shooter's word for it.

"Several people watched Ramon walk away from a convenience store with the beer without paying, police said, and some of them followed him out. One man followed Ramon across a major intersection and to the back of an auto repair shop. That’s when Ramon picked up a log and may have charged the man, police said."


http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news...cle_02d50058-9e45-11e5-8129-fbacf46ad855.html
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What do you intend to do, if the forensics comes back with it showing that he did have the log in his hand(s)?

Maybe he was going to feed those stray cats, with the beer that he criminally took.
 
christiefan915 said:
Yeah, we knew that after the fact. The cops alleged that they were being "threatened" by a toy gun and a knife and that's why those shootings were justified. The cops weren't just cruising the neighborhood and shooting citizens at random.
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Which is what makes your knee jerk reactions every time so comical. You immediately pretend that Brown, Martin and this guy are innocent victims.
 
cawacko said:
Once again assumptions are ok for him to use but not others.
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ROFL!

You, SFand the others have engaged in 20+ pages of baseless speculation regarding the details of this case, despite my repeated requests to stick to the facts.

Yet when I do as you have done, ALL OF A SUDDEN it's unacceptable.

More Rightie "do as I say and not as I do".
 
ZappasGuitar said:
ROFL!

You, SFand the others have engaged in 20+ pages of baseless speculation regarding the details of this case, despite my repeated requests to stick to the facts.

Yet when I do as you have done, ALL OF A SUDDEN it's unacceptable.

More Rightie "do as I say and not as I do".
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like how you stuck to the zimmerman facts? :palm:
 
Rana said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Freak, you are stubborn to the point of insipidness as the FACTS PROVE THAT ZIMMERMAN INITIATED THE ENTIRE INCIDENT WHEN HE STARTED TAILING MARTIN, WAS DISCOVERED, TOLD NOT TO FOLLOW FURTHER, AND CONTINUED TO DO SO. His injuries were NOT as dire as he wanted all to believe....and the bottom line was Martin had a final altercation with a ARMED stranger tailing him FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN SUSPICION. Deal with it.
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His latest Twitter ordeal, the ex girlfriend also confirmed, once again, that Zimmerman is a racist and he confirmed he is a bigot.
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Quite frankly, it's a waste of time and space to rehash Georgie's exploits for the conservative peanut gallery here. They got their verdict, their congenital bigotry is sated, and that's all they need. Lord knows they'll argue you to death if they get a verdict they don't like and the facts support that verdict, but then understanding what constitutes hypocrisy was never their strong suit.
 
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Superfreak said:
Following someone does not give Martin the right to attack. Period.

Taichiliberal responds: Oh give me a fucking break with your bullshit! A guy following you WITH A GUN AT NIGHT WHEN YOU ARE GUILTY OF NOTHING, A GUY YOU THOUGHT YOU LOST WHO THEN SHOWS UP TO CONFRONT YOU is jolly well cause for confrontation. We only have Georgie's word about an attack, as dead men tell no tales....but the tale Georgie spun didn't add up...except to a local grand jury THAT WAS CONFUSED ON INSTRUCTIONS OF RULING AND NOT PROPERLY GUIDED BY THE JUDGE.
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You then try to belittle the injuries because you want to pretend Martin was an innocent in the situation.

taichiliberal responds: I don't have to "try" anything, jackass. The FACTS & EVIDENCE speak for themselves...as Zimmerman's tale did NOT equal the sustained injuries. And for the record, MARTIN'S ONLY CRIME THAT NIGHT WAS WALKING HOME WHILE BLACK, as reacted to by Georgie. A matter of fact & history.
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When Zimmerman was told not to follow, he stated that he had LOST Martin. MARTIN then came back and confronted Zimmerman. Martin initiated the confrontation that led to his death.


Period.
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taichiliberal responds: STOP LYING! The dispatch clearly asked if Georgie was STILL following Martin, to which Georgie replied "YES". The dispatch said, we don't need you to do that. There was NEVER any evidence as to Martin "coming back", because if you remember Georgie stated that Martin leaped at him from behind some bushes THAT MARTIN HAD COME UPON WHILE TRYING TO READ SIGNS. Evidence showed that the bushes in question COULD NOT have hidden Martin, and there was sufficient street lamp light to see that. More BS from Georgie that folk like you go brain dead on. Period. Fini. The End.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
taichiliberal responds: STOP LYING! The dispatch clearly asked if Georgie was STILL following Martin, to which Georgie replied "YES". The dispatch said, we don't need you to do that. There was NEVER any evidence as to Martin "coming back", because if you remember Georgie stated that Martin leaped at him from behind some bushes THAT MARTIN HAD COME UPON WHILE TRYING TO READ SIGNS. Evidence showed that the bushes in question COULD NOT have hidden Martin, and there was sufficient street lamp light to see that. More BS from Georgie that folk like you go brain dead on. Period. Fini. The End.
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So you finally have admitted that you lied and Zimmerman was never told "NOT TO".
Thanks. :good4u:
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Vigilante gunman shoots and kills Tucson man who shoplifted beer from Circle K


Police in Tucson, Arizona have released the name of a 46-year-old man who was shot and killed by a gun-toting civilian on Sunday.

According to the Arizona Daily Star, Gerald Ramon was attempting to shoplift beer from a Circle K store when a witness gunned him down.

At around 2:30 on Sunday, said police spokesman Sgt. Pete Dugan, Ramon entered the Circle K store and attempted to leave the premises with several “beer items” without paying.

Witnesses chased Ramon, who fled on foot. A witness on a bicycle caught up with Ramon at a nearby Burger King, but Ramon reportedly threatened to hit the man with a large piece of wood. The witness drew a gun and fired, hitting Ramon, who was pronounced dead at Banner University of Arizona Medical Center.

The vigilante shooter remained on the scene and is reportedly cooperating with police.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/vig...tucson-man-who-shoplifted-beer-from-circle-k/
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OK, so allowing guns isn't perfect.

We also know not allowing them isn't perfect either.

So where does this anecdotal evidence take us exactly?
 
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