Victory on Stem Cells!

If you Nazi's are claiming embryonic stem cell research won't go up because of Obama's reversing the retard. then we need more little yellow buses.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
I do indeed resemble that remark. just ask my wife. :cof1:
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Is she evil too? We'd have that in common. My wife is evil.

Sorry bout doggin on Engineers. I was once a research associate at OSU in the materials engineering department. I was the only chemist in our group. It was a fate worse then death. Can you say "persona non grata"?
 
Watermark said:
That's a few states bearing the burden of the entire nation, a nation which will then reap the benefits. It's just unfair. And it's unnecessary. There's a reason the FEDS do this research. There's absolutely no justification for restricting it to states alone.
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That is just the few I have heard of.... I do not pretend to know everything every state and individual has done. Bottom line the funding was picked up by the States and individuals when the Fed said it was out.
 
Dungheap said:
1) You math is wrong by about a billion.

2) CA is $3 billion over ten years beginning in 2005. And CIRM is the entity through which the research is conducted. It is not separate funding from the CA $3 billion.

3) Lokey's $75 million was to build a research center, not to fund research activities themselves.

The states and private funding can supplement federal funding through the NIH, but cannot supplant it.
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1) Please link us to show that the CIRM money came from the bonds.

2) Please do try to understand that the when a research facility is built for several hundred million dollars, the intention is to fund research.

3) Please do try to pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize that this is ONE state and ONE individuals funding.

4) Now lets go back to my question.... If the funding for ALL stem cell research from NIH was only about $3b since 2005... WHAT is your guess as to what amount of that 'might' have gone to the embryonic line that is not covered by CA and Lokey alone???

Yes, you see I did note that you completely ignored that.
 
Mottleydude said:
Well if everyone felt as you did we wouldn't have nuclear energy or the Polio vaccine and we wouldn't be having this conversation because the satellites, PC's and the internet wouldn't have ever been invented.
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Again you moron, I am not suggesting that ALL Federal research funding be stopped. That is just the moronic strawman you have decided to build.

But I will note that AGAIN you are simply ASSUMING that funding would not have taken place if the FED hadn't done so. You do not know. But yet you cling to the belief that is the case. Bottom line, neither of us know.

But to be clear, none of the others you mentioned meant the deliberate termination of what SCIENCE dictates is a unique human (genetically speaking).
 
Solitary said:
Or we could make the tax forms really, really long and have checkoffs for wars, financial bailouts, capital punishment, subsidies for despotic leaders of other nations, and even the sweet healthcare deal congress gets.

If I could remove my tax dollars from those I would be much happier, and therefore much healthier.
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No significant percentage of Americans has expressed the desire to opt out of funding war, capital punishment, bailouts, etc. None of these issues involve what many believe to be the destruction of (innocent) human life. So while your point is taken, I don't think it is relevant. It was Jefferson who said, "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." This is the basis for what I proposed. That said, if I had my way I would end Federal funding of any medical research whatsoever. It is unconstitutional and counter-productive.
 
Tabasco said:
No significant percentage of Americans has expressed the desire to opt out of funding war, capital punishment, bailouts, etc.
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I think roughly the same percentage of people oppose capital punishment as oppose stem cells. More for bailouts and against the Iraq war. I would definitely checkoff all funding for the destruction of (actual) human life.
 
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