USMC bans all confederate symbols from it's bases.

[CFM]

The 13th amendment hadn't been ratified on April 15, 1865. How could there have been former slaves?

Lincoln was not an abolitionist. He was an opportunist.

 

[Airstrip One]

Well, Confederates were Americans, too. They were exercising what they saw as their right to withdraw from the Union.


IT'S OVER. And now there is only ONE , OFFICIAL UNITED STATES FLAG, which is what we should be flying at our military locales, IMHO.

They had their own flag, constitution, and Article I/II/III institutions. In fact, former President John Tyler was elected to the CSA Congress. This presents an interesting point to me. The CSA Constitution called for a single-term president elected for six years. Tyler had already served as US President for nearly four years. Would he have been eligible to serve as CSA President, or not? If the answer is yes, then, the Confederates were not Americans.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Once again, the side that starts the war gets to decide what it was started over. The traitors decided to start a war to preserve slavery. .

HAHAHAHA. Secession is NOT an act of war, you moron. As Jefferson Davis said "We just want to be left alone".

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

They had their own flag, constitution, and Article I/II/III institutions. In fact, former President John Tyler was elected to the CSA Congress. This presents an interesting point to me. The CSA Constitution called for a single-term president elected for six years. Tyler had already served as US President for nearly four years. Would he have been eligible to serve as CSA President, or not? If the answer is yes, then, the Confederates were not Americans.

I didn't know that about tyler.
Anyway - the confederates formed a new country and i doubt any of them claimed to be americans anymore.

 

[Walt]

The 13th amendment hadn't been ratified on April 15, 1865. How could there have been former slaves?

The Emancipation Proclamation in conjunction with the defeat of the rebellion meant that the majority of the slaves were free at the time of Lincoln's death. The 13th Amendment was in the process of being ratified, with Lincoln's strong support, so the rest were going to be freed within a few months. Lincoln was making the strong statement that these freed slaves should have equal rights to all Americans.

Lincoln was not an abolitionist.

Lincoln worked hard the last two years of his life to free the slaves, a job that was legally completed within a few months of his death.

 

[Walt]

HAHAHAHA. Secession is NOT an act of war, you moron. As Jefferson Davis said "We just want to be left alone".

Firing on Fort Sumter was an act of war. The traitors attacked American forces in many other places too. They needed a war, because many did not want to secede.

 

[CFM]

The Emancipation Proclamation in conjunction with the defeat of the rebellion meant that the majority of the slaves were free at the time of Lincoln's death. The 13th Amendment was in the process of being ratified, with Lincoln's strong support, so the rest were going to be freed within a few months. Lincoln was making the strong statement that these freed slaves should have equal rights to all Americans.



Lincoln worked hard the last two years of his life to free the slaves, a job that was legally completed within a few months of his death.[/QUOTE

Until the 13th amendment was ratified, slavery had not been abolished. You're dreaming if you think the slaves were free at that time. What you say is simply not true.

Like I said, Lincoln was an opportunist.

 

[CFM]

because many did not want to secede.

So the declarations of secession, in your opinion, were meaningless?

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

The Emancipation Proclamation in conjunction with the defeat of the rebellion meant that the majority of the slaves were free at the time of Lincoln's death. The 13th Amendment was in the process of being ratified, with Lincoln's strong support, so the rest were going to be freed within a few months. Lincoln was making the strong statement that these freed slaves should have equal rights to all Americans.

Please stop lying. The 13A merely freed the slaves. It said nothing about equal rights.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Firing on Fort Sumter was an act of war. The traitors attacked American forces in many other places too. They needed a war, because many did not want to secede.

The yankees were trespassing at fort sumter. That's what started the war. The CSA told liincoln to remove his troops from their country and he refused.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Speaking of the 13A can anyone explain why we have had military drafts when the 13A bans involuntary servitude?? Same with jury duty.