US doctors claim that hydroxychloroquine drug DOES help 91% of COVID Patients

Bobb said:
There's no doubt that Democrats and the jew-controlled media would prefer people die than have effective treatment, if it means an opportunity to bash Trump.

But, I don't find "91.6% of patients got better..." compelling, when the Wuhan flu is so mild that 95% of people infected don't even have symptoms. Of those who do show symptoms, at least 91.6% are going to get better regardless of treatment.
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READ the AAPS STATEMENT. IT REFERS TO PEOPLE BEING TREATED, NOT THOSE WITH LITTLE OR NO SYMPTOMS.
 
Truth Detector said:
Trump never said that you dopey dumb fuck. Are leftist fools incapable of posting without lies. #retard
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Liberal lie: 'Trump Said to Inject Yourself with Disinfectant and Shove UV Light Up your Ass!'

In two paragraphs of its report on the president’s remarks, the failing Blue York Crimes leads readers to believe it is quoting the president at enough length to provide accurate context.

Let’s take them one at a time.

Here’s the first: “Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light,” Mr. Trump said. “And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but we’re going to test it?” he added, turning to [Bill Bryan, the acting undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)], who had returned to his seat. “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, either through the skin or some other way.”

This excerpt implies that Trump was proposing this as a remedy.

But he was not.

He was relating a conversation he had had with Undersecretary Bryan about possible testing that DHS might do.

Omitted from the Crimes’s lying report is the sentence the president spoke right before the excerpt, which places it in context:

“So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting.”

He then proceeded with the question, “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light.”

Plainly, President Trump was saying that he raised this as a question that, he supposed, would naturally occur to scientists, and that he found intriguing.

Not content with that, the failing Blue York Crimes also elides mention of the president’s last comment.

After saying, “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, either through the skin or some other way,” which is where the Crimes cuts off the excerpt, President Trump added, “And I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.”

Again, this underscores that the president was reporting a prior conversation he’d had with an expert, regarding something he’d been told the experts were going to explore.

He was not remotely suggesting that this was something the public should act on.

Here is the second excerpt:

“And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute — one minute — and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?” he asked. “Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

Here, again, the Crimes cuts out the last sentence.

At the end of this excerpt, the president added: “So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.”

As is often the case, the president's thoughts are expressed in a choppy way. But it is plain enough that he was talking about a theoretical treatment that it would be “interesting” for the scientists to “check,” but that “medical doctors” would have to oversee any respiratory procedures involving injection.

I don’t see any good reason for the failing Blue York Crimes to edit the president’s remarks to obscure the facts that he was reporting a conversation he had with an expert about testing, and that he indicated medical doctors would have to approve any actual treatments by injection.

The only rational reason is that the paper has a political agenda to portray President Trump as urging lethally dangerous self-experimentation on the public.





https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/media-donald-trump-new-york-times-inflates-foolishness-into-monstrousness/
 
(AAPS)It's an aggregate of studies (case results) already completed. They speak for themselves

The NIH statement did real damage to hydroxy therapy. It was based solely on a few VA patients who were already way into the disease process and DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR DOSING OR UNDERLYING CONDITIONS..

Turkey has had great results (ex) and they give it to damn near everyone..it's a very safe drug with little side effects except cardio for at risk patients
 
Concart said:
What we don't know is how many would have gotten better anyway. Which is why anecdotal studies are no substitute for actual clinical trials. I have no problem with using this, but I have still not seen anything at all convincing that it does anything. And there is some evidence that the side effects can be very deadly.
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Same can be said for very many prescription meds.

But *the left* succeeded in politicizing this. How about we just wait to see what the studies actually show when they come out in about a year. In the meantime, we can hope Trump was right.

And if he was wrong, why on earth does it matter?
 
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Darth Omar said:
Same can be said for very many prescription meds.

But *the left* succeeded in politicizing this. How about we just wait to see what the studies actually show when they come out in about a year. In the meantime, we can hope Trump was right.

And if he was wrong, why on earth does it matter?
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Stupid. The left is not politicizing anything. You have decided to make up this imaginary 'politicization' and then whine about it. Same shit, different day. Yawn. Hope is not a strategy
 
Legion said:
Liberal lie: 'Trump Said to Inject Yourself with Disinfectant and Shove UV Light Up your Ass!'

In two paragraphs of its report on the president’s remarks, the failing Blue York Crimes leads readers to believe it is quoting the president at enough length to provide accurate context.

Let’s take them one at a time.

Here’s the first: “Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light,” Mr. Trump said. “And I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but we’re going to test it?” he added, turning to [Bill Bryan, the acting undersecretary for science and technology at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)], who had returned to his seat. “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, either through the skin or some other way.”

This excerpt implies that Trump was proposing this as a remedy.

But he was not.

He was relating a conversation he had had with Undersecretary Bryan about possible testing that DHS might do.

Omitted from the Crimes’s lying report is the sentence the president spoke right before the excerpt, which places it in context:

“So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting.”

He then proceeded with the question, “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light.”

Plainly, President Trump was saying that he raised this as a question that, he supposed, would naturally occur to scientists, and that he found intriguing.

Not content with that, the failing Blue York Crimes also elides mention of the president’s last comment.

After saying, “And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, either through the skin or some other way,” which is where the Crimes cuts off the excerpt, President Trump added, “And I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.”

Again, this underscores that the president was reporting a prior conversation he’d had with an expert, regarding something he’d been told the experts were going to explore.

He was not remotely suggesting that this was something the public should act on.

Here is the second excerpt:

“And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute — one minute — and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?” he asked. “Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

Here, again, the Crimes cuts out the last sentence.

At the end of this excerpt, the president added: “So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.”

As is often the case, the president's thoughts are expressed in a choppy way. But it is plain enough that he was talking about a theoretical treatment that it would be “interesting” for the scientists to “check,” but that “medical doctors” would have to oversee any respiratory procedures involving injection.

I don’t see any good reason for the failing Blue York Crimes to edit the president’s remarks to obscure the facts that he was reporting a conversation he had with an expert about testing, and that he indicated medical doctors would have to approve any actual treatments by injection.

The only rational reason is that the paper has a political agenda to portray President Trump as urging lethally dangerous self-experimentation on the public.





https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/media-donald-trump-new-york-times-inflates-foolishness-into-monstrousness/
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:thumbsup:
 
dukkha said:
the fucking sloppy NIH said that shit .
NOT ONE OF OF THE DOCTORS that said that SPECIALIZE IN EPIDEMICS and NOT ONE IS A FRONT LINE DOCTOR.

But the bureaucrats saw fit to piss on Hydroxychloroquine by citing a VA study.

The VA study didn't even have controls for dosages or underlying conditions!
Not that the Nimrods at the NIH wold care to mention those

fucking idiots@NIH completely missed this!
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Not sure why you're spinning your wheels...Trump was just being sarcastic when he mentioned hydroxychloroquine.
 
Crocodile said:
And we know those numbers are bull so these "Doctors" come into question immediately with such overblown claims. Even many highly recognized treatments for major illnesses don't have those success numbers. Quit being so damn gullible because you want to excuse your dipshit political messiah.
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There, that'll do. ;)
 
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