Unemployment = 3.6%

[Callinectes]

What President has NOT had a major crisis to try to navigate & lead through?

Trump had his, and he blew it. No one would say he was a good leader for the pandemic. And the economy suffered as a result.

What President has NOT had a major crisis to try to navigate & lead through?

I'll tell you who WOULDN'T have had a major crisis to try to navigate & lead through, that would be Donald Trump. Putin, xi, iran, that fat little north korean bastard, all of them and many more of these obnoxious fucks would still be in their boxes, Come to think of it, seems like putin only likes to pull his stunts when there's some twinklepuff jackass sitting around the WH. Remember Georgia in 2008? Or how about the annexation of Crimea in 2014? Maybe you can tell me why the hell PUTIN is negotiating with fucking IRAN to get AMERICA back into that clusterfuck of a nuke deal? And what possible reason could there be for gas to be closing in on $5 bucks a gallon? Shit, with this inflation, pretty soon the poorest of us will be living on ramen and government cheese, and our most prosperous and productive citizens will be taxed into the dust to pay for charging stations for electric cars that only the most prosperous and productive citizens will be able to afford.

Trump had his, and he blew it.

If you are hanging this around presidential necks, the tater head has more blood on his hands then Trump did, and Trump went into this thing blind. Have a little empathy and tell me why you would do the same things biden is doing now if you were president when covid hit? This should be simple because if you recall, this was the singular issue that defeated Trump, and if he was such a failure, it should be a simple matter for you to come up with a lengthy and detailed list of brilliant things that you would do differently, and compare that list with what the abomination-in-chief is actually doing about it right now. Should be easy. The list of things he is doing about covid right now is very short, in fact it's only got 7 letters on it...that's right...7 LETTERS, not 7 actionable items, 7 letters: N-O-T-H-I-N-G. He expected to waltz in and take credit for "fixing" the "Trump virus" after the vaccines came out. Karma is indeed a bitch, and now he's stuck with all the "biden variants"

No one would say he was a good leader for the pandemic

Did you really need to be "led" during the pandemic? Leadership is situational, and to try to lead people when you have no expertise in the subject at hand is futile. What you do is marshal the resources needed to accomplish the task at hand, and get the hell out of the way. That's called management. Were there people to be led? Of course. There were people in government and private industry that needed marching orders, and they got them. But back to you. Did you really need to be "led" during the pandemic? And if you felt a void in your life that could only be filled by having a politician tell you what to do, would you be content with that politician being a republican? I can tell you right now, from obama forward, if I sense that some jackass politician is trying to tell me what to do, to the best of my ability I'm gonna do the exact opposite. Trump was more than adequate as a leader, and a phenomenal manager with the resources at his disposal.

And the economy suffered as a result.

Whose economy DIDN'T suffer as a result, OF THE PANDEMIC?

 

[zappasguitar]

dead cat bounce. getting more workers is great, but the economy is fucked

In what way, specifically, is the economy "fucked"?

 

[floridafan]

The covid pandemic was a a media hoax. They lied. What was trump supposed to do about that.?

1 million people in the US alone didn't die?

 

[evince]

dead cat bounce. getting more workers is great, but the economy is fucked

In your beloved russia

 

[BartenderElite]

I'll tell you who WOULDN'T have had a major crisis to try to navigate & lead through, that would be Donald Trump. Putin, xi, iran, that fat little north korean bastard, all of them and many more of these obnoxious fucks would still be in their boxes, Come to think of it, seems like putin only likes to pull his stunts when there's some twinklepuff jackass sitting around the WH. Remember Georgia in 2008? Or how about the annexation of Crimea in 2014? Maybe you can tell me why the hell PUTIN is negotiating with fucking IRAN to get AMERICA back into that clusterfuck of a nuke deal? And what possible reason could there be for gas to be closing in on $5 bucks a gallon? Shit, with this inflation, pretty soon the poorest of us will be living on ramen and government cheese, and our most prosperous and productive citizens will be taxed into the dust to pay for charging stations for electric cars that only the most prosperous and productive citizens will be able to afford.



If you are hanging this around presidential necks, the tater head has more blood on his hands then Trump did, and Trump went into this thing blind. Have a little empathy and tell me why you would do the same things biden is doing now if you were president when covid hit? This should be simple because if you recall, this was the singular issue that defeated Trump, and if he was such a failure, it should be a simple matter for you to come up with a lengthy and detailed list of brilliant things that you would do differently, and compare that list with what the abomination-in-chief is actually doing about it right now. Should be easy. The list of things he is doing about covid right now is very short, in fact it's only got 7 letters on it...that's right...7 LETTERS, not 7 actionable items, 7 letters: N-O-T-H-I-N-G. He expected to waltz in and take credit for "fixing" the "Trump virus" after the vaccines came out. Karma is indeed a bitch, and now he's stuck with all the "biden variants"



Did you really need to be "led" during the pandemic? Leadership is situational, and to try to lead people when you have no expertise in the subject at hand is futile. What you do is marshal the resources needed to accomplish the task at hand, and get the hell out of the way. That's called management. Were there people to be led? Of course. There were people in government and private industry that needed marching orders, and they got them. But back to you. Did you really need to be "led" during the pandemic? And if you felt a void in your life that could only be filled by having a politician tell you what to do, would you be content with that politician being a republican? I can tell you right now, from obama forward, if I sense that some jackass politician is trying to tell me what to do, to the best of my ability I'm gonna do the exact opposite. Trump was more than adequate as a leader, and a phenomenal manager with the resources at his disposal.



Whose economy DIDN'T suffer as a result, OF THE PANDEMIC?

Trump is on tape admitting that he downplayed COVID.

He sowed confusion, sent mixed messages on measures like distancing & masks, and we're still seeing the "let's pretend it's a hoax" effect on vaccines. The latter is especially ironic, since Trump COULD take credit for the vaccine - but his denial about COVID led so many of his supporters to reject getting vaccinated.

Yes - you 100% can lead during a pandemic. You can take the problem head on, and try to innovate so that businesses could have responded with a more unified vision & strategy to succeed in those circumstances. I'm not even really going to try to debate it, because Trump was so woeful. His "buck stops w/ everyone but me" philosophy is the exact opposite of what a nation needs during a crisis.

Trump lost the election not because of COVID, but because he failed to respond to COVID effectively and lead the nation through it. He pitted groups against each other. Jeb Bush was right - he was the chaos candidate, and the chaos President. If you look at his whole history, it's what he thrives on. It works for him as an individual, but isn't good for a nation.

 

[gemini104104]

Trump is on tape admitting that he downplayed COVID.

He sowed confusion, sent mixed messages on measures like distancing & masks, and we're still seeing the "let's pretend it's a hoax" effect on vaccines. The latter is especially ironic, since Trump COULD take credit for the vaccine - but his denial about COVID led so many of his supporters to reject getting vaccinated.

Yes - you 100% can lead during a pandemic. You can take the problem head on, and try to innovate so that businesses could have responded with a more unified vision & strategy to succeed in those circumstances. I'm not even really going to try to debate it, because Trump was so woeful. His "buck stops w/ everyone but me" philosophy is the exact opposite of what a nation needs during a crisis.

Trump lost the election not because of COVID, but because he failed to respond to COVID effectively and lead the nation through it. He pitted groups against each other. Jeb Bush was right - he was the chaos candidate, and the chaos President. If you look at his whole history, it's what he thrives on. It works for him as an individual, but isn't good for a nation.

tRump as a insecure imposter at being a lawlessly hacked in tyrant and criminal against humanity should be held extremely accountably for his act of intentionally enabling and being culpable at causing the covid-19 death of over 800,000 America and with global implications too. Tyrants and evil doing creatures that tRump associates with, in particular, repukes who have basically destroyed the souls of many among society but not the majority, are incapable of either supporting or co-existing in a civilized society at being a desecration upon humanity.

 

[Walt]

Unemployment = 3.6%

Beyond the extremely low unemployment, there are millions of jobs unfilled.

 

[Walt]

The covid pandemic was a a media hoax. They lied.

Wow, you say trump was such an incredible failure that he allowed to biggest hoax in history to kill tens of millions of people worldwide... Wow that is complete failure.

 

[Walt]

Yet the employment rate has be virtually flat for months...

The economy has added millions of jobs, that is the opposite of virtually flat.

 

[Walt]

3.6%??? HAHAHA. What a joke. Jobless people on welfare do NOT count as unemployed!!!! Does that make sense?. Among whites the unemployment rate is actually 20% and for blacks its 80%.

Being on Welfare has no effect on whether someone is unemployed or not. There are people on Welfare that have jobs, and there are unemployed people on Welfare.

Your estimates are insanely off.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The economy has added millions of jobs, that is the opposite of virtually flat.

No, the employment rate has remained nearly flat. I showed that. The economy added back jobs lost during the various lockdowns and other government imposed closings of businesses, and since hasn't added much of anything.
You have to remember that the U3 only looks at people actively looking for work. People who quit looking don't count. That's why the employment rate is a better indicator of employment.

 

[Walt]

No, the employment rate has remained nearly flat.

The rate of employment has been steadily increasing over the last few months. Total non farm employment has risen by 6.494 million in the last 12 months. In the last 6 months, it has added 3.597 million. In the last 3 months, it has added 1.685 million. In short, not virtually flat.

https://www.bls.gov/ces/

The economy added back jobs lost during the various lockdowns and other government imposed closings of businesses, and since hasn't added much of anything.

Huge numbers of the old jobs are unfilled, which is why we have so many unfilled positions. We have created many new jobs.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Trump left the economy in complete shambles.

The Trump economy was so outstanding that he lost millions of jobs and left with a stock market lower than when he took office. Only now is this President reclaiming all of the jobs that Trump lost. The Trump years were a true disaster.

tRump is notorious at being a pathological liar.

Economy adds 431,000 jobs in March as COVID fades but inflation soars; unemployment rate falls to 3.6%

U.S. employers added a booming 431,000 jobs in March as tumbling COVID-19 cases more than offset concerns about soaring inflation and the war in Ukraine.

The unemployment rate fell from 3.8% to 3.6%, the Labor Department said Friday. That puts it just above the 50-year low of 3.5% just before the pandemic upended the economy in March 2020.

Economists surveyed by Bloomberg had estimated that 440,000 jobs were added last month.

The economy has now added more than 400,000 jobs a month for 11 months, the longest such streak on record, Morgan Stanley noted in a report.

President Joe Biden touted the drop in unemployment – down from 6.4% when he entered office – as the “fastest decline in unemployment to start a president’s term ever recorded.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/04/01/jobs-report-march-unemployment-rate/7237982001/

The Federal Reserve considers a base unemployment rate (the U-3 rate) of 5.0 to 5.2 percent as “full employment” in the economy.

The recovery has now achieved that level, known technically as the Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment, or NAIRU.'

https://www.marketplace.org/2015/09/04/does-51-percent-full-employment/

 

[ExpressLane]

The labor force participation rate has fallen 67% in 2000 to 62% today. Not a good thing.

 

[Cypress]

Beyond the extremely low unemployment, there are millions of jobs unfilled.

It's a good time to be a job seeker.


Trump was obviously completely wrong when he predicted a massive economic depression if Biden were elected.

 

[Walt]

It's a good time to be a job seeker.


Trump was obviously completely wrong when he predicted a massive economic depression if Biden were elected.

The alt right tends to take credit for being right, when they believe a prediction they made, even if it never comes true.

For 30 years now, Nugent has been saying he will be arrested if an election goes against him... And yet, he has not been arrested. We keep hearing about how it will be illegal to be a Christian, or to celebrate Christmas, and yet Christmas continues to be a major holiday.

 

[Phantasmal]

The labor force participation rate has fallen 67% in 2000 to 62% today. Not a good thing.

Retirement? Boomers were the largest group in USA, and COVID killed a lot of older workers.

 

[Walt]

The labor force participation rate has fallen 67% in 2000 to 62% today. Not a good thing.

The Baby Boomers are retiring. That is going to push down overall labor participation rates. So that really is not the bad sign you claim.

What is a bad sign is pre-Covid falling life expectancies. That does not happen in a healthy country. It is almost entirely correlated with trump voters. It also involves dropping workforce participation among people who are not in education or retired.

 

[floridafan]

Yes, had the orange man been honest about the Covid pandemic and moved to immediately take action, we would have been in far better shape than listening to every lie he told.

 

[Jarod]

dead cat bounce. getting more workers is great, but the economy is fucked

I heard that for eight years during the Obama administration.