UN says disputed Falkland Islands are in Argentina territorial waters

The government of Morocco has repeatedly called for Spain to transfer the sovereignty of Ceuta and Melilla, along with uninhabited islets such as the islands of Alhucemas, Velez and the Perejil island, drawing comparisons with Spain's territorial claim to Gibraltar.[29] In both cases, the national governments and local populations of the disputed territories reject these claims by a large majority.[30] The Spanish position states that both Ceuta and Melilla are integral parts of Spain, and have been since the 16th century, whereas Gibraltar, being a British Overseas Territory, is not and never has been part of the United Kingdom.[31] Some argue[who?] that Ceuta has been under Christian rule (Spanish or Portuguese) for a longer period than major cities in peninsular Spain such as Málaga, Granada or Almería, and has been so since before the creation of the Spanish state in 1475. Morocco denies these claims and maintains that the Spanish presence in Ceuta and the other presidios on its coast is a remnant of the colonial past which should be ended. However, the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories does not consider those Spanish territories to be colonies, whereas it does declare Gibraltar as a non-decolonized territory.[32]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceuta

Food for thought there. The Brits' claim to Gibraltar and the Malvinas doesn't have sound legal basis though.

The illegal squatters in Palestine would- no doubt at all- return a referendum verdict supporting Israeli possession, but their views have no basis in law. Israeli law is void in the matter. The Palestinians have offered the squatters Palestinian citizenship when Palestine becomes a full UN member state. I don't see any better option for the people of the Malvinas and Gibraltar- unless they choose to withdraw to the UK.
 
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Argentina's claim to the Falklands is just a distraction from its own incompetence


The assertion by the UN's Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf that Argentina's maritime territory should include the Falkland Islands is a bit like Jeremy Corbyn’s assertion that the UK should open negotiations over their fate. It does not matter. It is never going to change anything.

It is frustrating, however, that the UN seeks to breath life into a dormant conflict against a settled, peaceful and democratically content people, in a world where Kim Jong-un threatens nuclear war while the European ideal disappears under a wave of humanity displaced by the brutality of militant Islam. Their migrant columns march only a few hundred miles south of the Ukrainian stand-off where death stalks the front lines.

It is typical of this failed institution. I am hoping that the Prime Minister, leader of one of the permanent five members of the UN Security Council, quietly reminds the UN who is paying for their junkets. If I were he I would be getting tired of their recent assertions that sexism is more "pervasive" and "in your face" in the UK than any other country or that the reform of of housing benefit was an attack on human rights and invite them to focus on the real world – or do what the US does and simply stop the payments. At the same time I would very publicly ask about Argentine’s contributions, I would suspect that they are badly in arrears because Argentina is broke.

Indeed, Argentina has gently withered to a shadow of a country thanks to political and financial mismanagement during the Kirchner regime. Drug traffickers from Bolivia and Peru are running their cargoes through the country because the infrequently paid police force is rarely to be seen. The Argentine military is disintegrating.

It was almost exactly a year ago that I wrote a piece in this paper about Buenos Aires being in talks with Vladimir Putin to secure 12 Sukhoi Su-24 "Fencer" bombers, capable of reaching Port Stanley; a clear and aggressive message. That was abandoned. Argentina could not afford it. They opted for a Chinese solution. This was also abandoned due to cost concerns.

In August 2015, the Argentine air force retired its Mirage fighters, with only a handful of them even flyable. The problems don’t stop there: their submarine crews, despite benefiting from a recent upgrade, need at least 190 days of immersion practice, and in 2014 only spent 19 hours submerged. Their four destroyers face a similar situation; they don’t have any weaponry.

Argentine ground forces rarely have the resources for training and are vastly under equipped, their kit dates back to the 70s and is in very short supply.
I had hoped that the election of Maricio Marci as president would hasten a new era of rapprochement in a turbulent world with our one time ally. The signs were good. Now thanks to the flatulent UN we are back to the diplomatic trenches. Do these duffers have nothing better to do?

Col Tim Collins is a former SAS officer and a specialist in the field of counter-insurgency and security
 
You are just an idiot, what law would that be then?

Specifically ? I'd have to look into it- Fool- but you can bet your French-owned water supplies that the UK is obliged to comply with its United Nations Charter undertakings .
 
Yeh good luck with that!!


Empire is gone, chummy. Without the protection of UN agreements the UK would be stripped by those it has stolen from like locusts on a kale crop. What would it do , wave the nuclear weapons that it shortly won't have a home for ? You'd best start complying with world democracy.
 
Empire is gone, chummy. Without the protection of UN agreements the UK would be stripped by those it has stolen from like locusts on a kale crop. What would it do , wave the nuclear weapons that it shortly won't have a home for ? You'd best start complying with world democracy.

Ok sonny, I'll make a deal. We will give the Falklands back when the USA gives Hawaii back!

Hawaii is not legally a state!

By Michael Rivero
It is easy to find the courage necessary to support a moral position if that position benefits oneself. True moral courage, however, is proven when one chooses to support that which is morally and ethically right even when such a position is to one's own detriment.

The people of the United States find themselves in such a position right now, forced to choose between a moral and ethical position that carries with it the potential for "inconvenience", or supporting the status quo and having to admit to themselves that they are not the champions of justice they imagine themselves to be. By the end of this article, you will know for yourself which one you are.

Most folks have heard that Hawaii is a state, one of the United States of America. Most people, including those who live in Hawaii, accept that statement as a fact.

But the reality is that in a world in which nations are as bound by the rule of laws as are the citizens of nations (if not more so), the truth is quite different!
The truth is that each and every step along Hawaii's path from sovereign and independent nation, to annexed territory, to state, was done in violation of laws and treaties then in effect, without regard to the wishes of the Hawaiian people. Many people, including President Grover Cleveland, opposed the annexation of Hawaii.

But in the end, simple greed and military interest overrode any concerns or moral right and legality. Hawaii's legitimate government was toppled using threat of American military force. Hawaii was stolen from her people for the benefit of wealthy American plantation owners and military interests, and the justifications for the crime were invented after-the-fact.

Hawaii's government was overthrown on Jan. 17, 1893, by a relatively small group of men, most of them American by birth or heritage, who seized control of the Islands with the backing of American troops sent ashore from a warship in Honolulu Harbor. To this "superior force of the United States of America," Queen Lili`uokalani yielded her throne, under protest, in order to avoid bloodshed, trusting that the United States government would right the wrong that had been done to her and the Hawaiian people.

Who were this group of American men and why did they overthrow the government? Sugar!

Sugar was by far the principal support of the islands, and profits and prosperity hinged on favorable treaties with the United States, Hawaiian sugar's chief market, creating powerful economic ties. The plantation owners were, for the most part, the descendents of the original missionary families who had brought religion to the islands in the wake of the whaling ships. As ownership of private property came to the islands, the missionary families wound up owning a great deal of it!

Hawaii has little in the way of mineral wealth, so the land was useful only for agriculture. In a day when unrefridgerated sailing ships such as Captain Matson's "Falls Of Clyde" were the only means to ship produce to the US Mainland, sugar, and to a lesser extent coconuts, were the only produce which could survive the duration of the sea voyage.

 
Ok sonny, I'll make a deal. We will give the Falklands back when the USA gives Hawaii back!

You disgusting limey's will NEVER give the Falkland Islands to ANYONE.

It's the most enjoyable vacation spot you disgusting people have.

All of those sheep to pork and all.

It's you and your ilks favorite pastime to fuck all the sheep you can.

And, every year, there is a new lot of virgin sheep on the block.

They have a premium price but you filth are MORE than willing to pay extra for the privilege.
 
You disgusting limey's will NEVER give the Falkland Islands to ANYONE.

It's the most enjoyable vacation spot you disgusting people have.

All of those sheep to pork and all.

It's you and your ilks favorite pastime to fuck all the sheep you can.

And, every year, there is a new lot of virgin sheep on the block.

They have a premium price but you filth are MORE than willing to pay extra for the privilege.


You're very much mistaken- as is usual. Brits wouldn't dream of visiting such a remote and inhospitable place for their vacations. Check out the tourist board's online shop;
http://www.falklandislands.com/section.php/107/
They can get their plastic penguins on eBay.
 
You disgusting limey's will NEVER give the Falkland Islands to ANYONE.

It's the most enjoyable vacation spot you disgusting people have.

All of those sheep to pork and all.

It's you and your ilks favorite pastime to fuck all the sheep you can.

And, every year, there is a new lot of virgin sheep on the block.

They have a premium price but you filth are MORE than willing to pay extra for the privilege.

How did this cunt slip by?
 
You disgusting limey's will NEVER give the Falkland Islands to ANYONE.

It's the most enjoyable vacation spot you disgusting people have.

All of those sheep to pork and all.

It's you and your ilks favorite pastime to fuck all the sheep you can.

And, every year, there is a new lot of virgin sheep on the block.

They have a premium price but you filth are MORE than willing to pay extra for the privilege.


What a fucking weirdo! Who in his right mind would go to these islands for anything? The point is that (a) the Argentine military attacked these islands and thus kept Mrs Thatcher in power when she'd otherwise have been thrown out, and (b) the inhabitants of the islands don't want to join Argentina, so it is extremely difficult for any British government to make a deal, particularly with what are seen as swaggering, blathering, greasy would-be bullies. Personally I have more relatives in Argentina than I have in England, as far as I know, but foreigners bawling and honking in this ridiculous way do nothing for anyone, surely?
 
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What a fucking weirdo! Who in his right mind would go to these islands for anything? The point is that (a) the Argentine military attacked these islands and thus kept Mrs Thatcher in power when she'd otherwise have been thrown out, and (b) the inhabitants of the islands don't want to join Argentina, so it is extremely difficult for any British government to make a deal, particularly with what are seen as swaggering, blathering, greasy would-be bullies. Personally I have more relatives in Argentina than I have in England, as far as I know, but foreigners bawling and honking in this ridiculous way does nothing for anyone, surely?

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I think Michael Foote and the "longest suicide note in history" as Gerald Kaufmann termed the 1983 Labour Party manifesto might have had a lot to do with it as well!! Actually I agreed with the part about getting out of the EU or the EEC as it was called back then.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8550425.stm
 
You disgusting limey's will NEVER give the Falkland Islands to ANYONE.

It's the most enjoyable vacation spot you disgusting people have.

All of those sheep to pork and all.

It's you and your ilks favorite pastime to fuck all the sheep you can.

And, every year, there is a new lot of virgin sheep on the block.

They have a premium price but you filth are MORE than willing to pay extra for the privilege.

You're very much mistaken- as is usual. Brits wouldn't dream of visiting such a remote and inhospitable place for their vacations.

They ALL go.

They just don't publicize it too much.

But them limeys do like to fuck a LOT of sheep.

It's a right of passage that just keeps on giving to them.
 
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