Uh oh... Seems Nordstream 2 is still working

Hawkeye10 said:
You do know that it was the CIA and not the military that has been for years the main people training up the Ukrainians?

They are there right now, how many we dont know, it is all secret, secrecy being the point.
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CIA does not do that, Special OPs does. CIA can help with intel. Sometimes its even accurate.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
"SQUIRREL!"

America would not be dumping tens of billions of dollars of advanced weapons into Ukraine unless they had some confidence that the stuff would be properly used, which is provided by the CIA boots on the ground, which I am calling Americas secret military force.

Which is perfectly capable of taking out some undersea gas pipeline.
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Teaching what amounts to a semi-trained army to use these weapons against a conscript army with little experience is like giving martial arts lessons to two retards.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Teaching what amounts to a semi-trained army to use these weapons against a conscript army with little experience is like giving martial arts lessons to two retards.
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teaching in this case is mainly sitting beside the operator saying "press this, then press that". Its largely computerized so its just identifying the targets abd those are being tracked from above. realistically we could be having our guys operate them from US facilities. ergo the "advanced" part.

this is also why Russia getting loads of drones from Iran was a big help as it provides similar intel for them to do more automated mayhem.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am not saying that America through the CIA did not contract this out, my point has been that if the US was to do this ourselves we would not use the regular military, we would have used CIA personal and assets, even if some of the assets were on loan from the military.
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I am 100% convinced that Putin did it, he wants to show the Europeans that the US cannot be trusted. What better way than to bomb the pipelines and blame the US. I doubt that anybody in Germany, Poland and Scandinavia believes that crap. Rule of thumb, if scumbags like McMoonshi'ite tell you something it's almost invariably prime grade bullshit.
 
Primavera said:
I am 100% convinced that Putin did it, he wants to show the Europeans that the US cannot be trusted. What better way than to bomb the pipelines and blame the US. I doubt that anybody in Germany, Poland and Scandinavia believes that crap. Rule of thumb, if scumbags like McMoonshi'ite tell you something it's almost invariably prime grade bullshit.
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And it should have been a piece of cake for Jimmy Carter to swoop in and rescue the Iranian hostages and we see how Jimmy himself f**ked that up.
And how Obama cost us a special OPs helicopter fetching OBL by needlessly sending two seal teams.

Whenever presidents try to play army it turns out bad.
 
Primavera said:
I am 100% convinced that Putin did it, he wants to show the Europeans that the US cannot be trusted. What better way than to bomb the pipelines and blame the US. I doubt that anybody in Germany, Poland and Scandinavia believes that crap. Rule of thumb, if scumbags like McMoonshi'ite tell you something it's almost invariably prime grade bullshit.
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That is certainly what the Chinese say everyday all day long.

I am awaiting more information.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The CIA is now a largely self contained secret military force...they have spent 20 years building the capacity.
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Does that 'self-contained secret military force' include the USS Kearsarge?

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https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g...e-us-navy-ships-that-sabotaged-the-pipelines/
 
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Primavera said:
I am 100% convinced that Putin did it, he wants to show the Europeans that the US cannot be trusted. What better way than to bomb the pipelines and blame the US. I doubt that anybody in Germany, Poland and Scandinavia believes that crap. Rule of thumb, if scumbags like McMoonshi'ite tell you something it's almost invariably prime grade bullshit.
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Which one to believe?


Some faceless nobody on a chat forum (as am I)?
Is convinced that the Russians blew up their OWN pipeline?
To show that 'America cannot be trusted'?!?
With NO, factual data to back it up?

OR


There is the fact that the USS Kearsarge was apparently within 50 km of both Nordstream 1 and 2 when they blew?

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https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g...e-us-navy-ships-that-sabotaged-the-pipelines/


Plus, Biden said he would 'end' Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine
https://www.newsweek.com/video-biden-saying-end-nord-stream-resurfaces-after-pipeline-leak-1747005

Plus...'Blinken Calls Sabotage Attacks on Nord Stream Pipelines a “Tremendous Opportunity”'
https://www.globalresearch.ca/blink...ream-pipelines-tremendous-opportunity/5795297


Hmmmmm........which to believe?
 
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McRocket said:
Which one to believe?


Some faceless nobody on a chat forum (as am I)?
With NO factual data to back it up?
Is convinced that the Russians blew up their OWN pipeline?
To show that America cannot be trusted?!?

OR


There is the fact that the USS Kearsarge was apparently within 50 km of both Nordstream 1 and 2 when they blew?

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https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g...e-us-navy-ships-that-sabotaged-the-pipelines/


Plus, Biden said he would 'end' Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine
https://www.newsweek.com/video-biden-saying-end-nord-stream-resurfaces-after-pipeline-leak-1747005


Hmmmmm........which to believe?
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and you know that the US knows where every Russian/Polish/fill-in-the-blank ships were where and would have published it.
 
Celticguy said:
and you know that the US knows where every Russian/Polish/fill-in-the-blank ships were where and would have published it.
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Good point!

I did not even know about where the Kearsarge was during the explosions until a few minutes ago.
This data is EASY to find...it's available to almost everyone on the web.

Why the 'f' did the MSM not mention this?
Why did they not do a quick check to see if any major, military vessels were in this area after the pipes blew?

Just another example of how the MSM is totally useless.
 
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McRocket said:
Good point!

I did not even know about where the Kearsarge was during the explosions until a few minutes ago.
This data is EASY to find...it's available to almost everyone on the web.

Why the 'f' did the MSM not mention this before?
Why did they not do a quick check of known locations of major, US/Russian/Brit vessels after the pipes blew?
Just another example of how the MSM is totally useless.
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you know the answer to that, they are running cover for the ruling junta. they have been VERY quiet about the whole thing for obvious reasons.
Pedo already said he would destroy it and now after he did he f**ked it up top boot. Not that there is anything unusual about that.

and now he's had to pivot to rattling nuclear chains, and we will probably shot the first one of those sometime in the next 30 days.

gotta get that martial law going b4 the first election day or he's going to prison. he's too old to be getting buggered non-stop. Hunter woundt mind it seems but not Joe.
 
Celticguy said:
you know the answer to that, they are running cover for the ruling junta. they have been VERY quiet about the whole thing for obvious reasons.
Pedo already said he would destroy it and now after he did he f**ked it up top boot. Not that there is anything unusual about that.

and now he's had to pivot to rattling nuclear chains, and we will probably shot the first one of those sometime in the next 30 days.

gotta get that martial law going b4 the first election day or he's going to prison. he's too old to be getting buggered non-stop. Hunter woundt mind it seems but not Joe.
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True.

But I hoped others would come to that conclusion on their own.


BTW - can you imagine what would have happened if the Russians blew up two, major, American pipelines?!?
This was a remarkably stupid and dangerous thing Biden did.
And for little to gain in return - even in a best-case scenario.



Once again...I DESPISE, both parties.
 
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McRocket said:
Which one to believe?


Some faceless nobody on a chat forum (as am I)?
Is convinced that the Russians blew up their OWN pipeline?
To show that 'America cannot be trusted'?!?
With NO, factual data to back it up?

OR


There is the fact that the USS Kearsarge was apparently within 50 km of both Nordstream 1 and 2 when they blew?

Screen%20Shot%202022-09-28%20at%2010.14.02%20am-1664324142644.png

https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g...e-us-navy-ships-that-sabotaged-the-pipelines/


Plus, Biden said he would 'end' Nordstream 2 if Russia invaded Ukraine
https://www.newsweek.com/video-biden-saying-end-nord-stream-resurfaces-after-pipeline-leak-1747005

Plus...'Blinken Calls Sabotage Attacks on Nord Stream Pipelines a “Tremendous Opportunity”'
https://www.globalresearch.ca/blink...ream-pipelines-tremendous-opportunity/5795297


Hmmmmm........which to believe?
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No wonder you believe Putin because he always been so trustworthy in past and never ever lies!!!! Aren't you even the least bit suspicious that the explosions occurred at the same time as the opening of the Baltic Pipe?

https://ec.europa.eu/info/news/launch-baltic-pipe-2022-sep-27_en
 
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