U.S. Goods Trade Deficit Declines to Smallest in Three Years

They are replacing higher wages with credit.
I'm old enough to remember when you used to oppose debt creation.
except wages ARE rising


Consumers are going into debt, they're not paying down debt. They are going into debt because wages aren't rising. So just like last decade, people are using credit to replace real wages for spending. How long do you think that consumer debt bubble can sustain on its current course?
wages are up, people are going into debt to fuel their consumerism which is also red hot
this isn't a bubble to support wages, it's in addition to wages (consumer confidence)

Hmmm...so...in order for the economy to grow, consumers must take on more debt. And BTW - personal loans are unsecured.
fallacy. the amount of unsecured debt is not like the housing bubble etc
 
it's a projection, the economy is on a steady growth, after rapid growth in 2018

It was a promise.
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And 2018 didn't have "rapid" growth.

Growth in 2018 was just 2.9%.

Growth in 2017 was just 2.2%.

So you didn't really do much there.
 
Here's what you're doing; you're arguing that wages shouldn't be increased because people can just get easy access to credit, and you're assuring them that their job prospects will improve so that they will eventually be able to claw themselves out of a debt hole they created because they couldn't get higher wages.

It's 2006 all over again.
complete trash. you ignore the actual wage growth and already record low unemployment.
 
It was a promise.
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And 2018 didn't have "rapid" growth.

Growth in 2018 was just 2.9%.

Growth in 2017 was just 2.2%.

So you didn't really do much there.
2.9 isn't rapid?? and where are the LOW years (under 2%) like Obama's..oh that's right there ARE NONE
 
since Trump was elected ( and stocks are forward looking) the DJIA is up from 10k to 28k!

Since the Russia Tax Cut, that you also promised would lead the market to unbelievable growth, the DJIA has grown just 15% in 24 months.

That is the worst DJIA growth since 2008.
 
They are replacing higher wages with credit.

I'm old enough to remember when you used to oppose debt creation.




Consumers are going into debt, they're not paying down debt. They are going into debt because wages aren't rising. So just like last decade, people are using credit to replace real wages for spending. How long do you think that consumer debt bubble can sustain on its current course?




Hmmm...so...in order for the economy to grow, consumers must take on more debt. And BTW - personal loans are unsecured.

You forgot to mention that APR of unsecured debt to high risk consumers is 24-30 %. No trickle down wage gains would cover that if indeed
people are financing recurring expenses on CCs. Nevermind the service fees, late fees that tick it up near 40% effective apr.

Personally I'm a "freeloader" as far as that is concerned. I just pay them off each month and pay nothing while the poor people
support the business model. I didn't use to be able to do that. I negotiate debt all the time. As long as you don't dick me around I'll
give you a huge break. The second you get righteous and act like a victim? Well, I may give you one more shot, but any consumer would do
better with me by playing it straight and just negotiating a payout on time no interest whatsoever. 1. Don't pretend you don't owe 2. take fucking responsibility
3. don't take the offensive then you get a sweetheart deal that cuts it in half given annuity valuation. IOW, don't be a Trump.

On the RE commercial side, no deals, I'm secured with firsts or seconds and if there is equity, I either get the money BIF or take the collateral, same
with Merchant cash advances. That's business, not consumers.

Anyway, my advice for any debtor is cut the bullshit, be honest and try to pay your damn debts. You'll feel better about yourself.
You know who is bothering people who don't owe money they refuse to pay? Nobody.
 
it DOES fix open markets to Cananda, and North American supply chains instead of China

I will make you a bet that if this trade deal gets signed (which is still doubtful), our trade deficit will be higher twelve months later.


and offshoring due to Mexico wage guarantees for auto workers.

Do you...do you think this deal will close plants in Mexico and move them to the US?
 
less the half the state does not explain wage growth across all sectors above 3% with little inflation

Yes, it does.

It absolutely does.

You said wage growth was up for those at the bottom...well, those at the bottom are the ones who got the minimum wage increase.
 
you wish! the longer the curve the more difficult it is to maintain the trajectory.

So you're saying Obama had a "long curve". :|

It's not that difficult to maintain. Obama managed a 6.5 year long curve. You haven't been able to get a curve longer than a quarter.


AND these are record low unemployemt or 50+ years or more

Thanks to Obama
 
except wages ARE rising

Not really. If wages were rising, personal unsecured loans would be dropping...but they're increasing. Why would someone take out an unsecured personal loan? For the same reason they took out subprime loans 15 years ago; easy access to credit in lieu of higher wages.
 
wages are up, people are going into debt to fuel their consumerism which is also red hot

So you're cheerleading a debt bubble. Got it.

This is exactly what happened 15 years ago; only replace "unsecured personal loan" with "Subprime mortgage".

In a "white hot economy" you don't want debt levels to increase...you want debt levels to decrease so that when there is another downturn, you can borrow at low interest rates. But what is happening is the opposite: debt levels are rising as interest rates increase.

You simply don't know what you're talking about.
 
this isn't a bubble to support wages, it's in addition to wages (consumer confidence)

It's a replacement for higher wages. If wages were higher, there wouldn't be as much borrowing, and debt levels would decrease. But you would have us believe that a strong economy is built on debt, after stapling teabags to your face 10 years ago in outrage over that very thing.

What a fucking fraud.
 
I will make you a bet that if this trade deal gets signed (which is still doubtful), our trade deficit will be higher twelve months later.
I have no way to know either way, if it's up or down in 12 months.
Up isn't all bad, down isn't all good either. the macroeconomics are what count - not just the deficit

Do you...do you think this deal will close plants in Mexico and move them to the US?
don't be stupid.
Offshoring is largely a function of cheap labor, but not the only factor. what it will do is stop the bleed ing for cheap autoworkers to Mexico
 
fallacy. the amount of unsecured debt is not like the housing bubble etc

Not yet. But continue on this path and it will. What rate would wages need to grow in order to scale back borrowing? Because in your weird world, there is no rate. In your economics, personal debt levels should grow indefinitely. At what point will these unsecured, personal loans be paid back? If wages aren't rising fast enough to pay down personal debt, how does the personal debt get paid down?
 
It's a replacement for higher wages. If wages were higher, there wouldn't be as much borrowing, and debt levels would decrease. But you would have us believe that a strong economy is built on debt, after stapling teabags to your face 10 years ago in outrage over that very thing.

What a fucking fraud.
wages ARE higher -so this sophistry that the consumer debt is in place of wage increases is manifestly false.

when did I ever say debt is the foundation of a strong economy?? more of your lies
 
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