Tyra Banks: 'Enough of the damn emails

do we need to do this again? whatever Qadaffi was -and he was a dictator -a"mixed bag" he's was a respected, legitimate leader of Libya - in good standing with the world, so much he was invited to the G-8 and shook Obama's hand.

Take that as a starting point and end up where we declare him a military target, where he never did anything to us, except help on the war on terror.
Take the fact we intervened in his civil war, against him.
Take the Pottery Barn rule into account ( you break it -you own it)
Take the various accouunts and State's own"tic toc on Libya" memo that shows Clinton was chief international architect,and US advocate for the Libyan war 2011
Take the conclusion that by her activism Clinton owns a significant,if not majority outcome of what Libya became post war,
and continues to be today -a failed terrorist state.

If he was so well respected by his people, explain this.


Libyans erupted in jubilation Thursday from the very first incomplete reports that ousted leader Moammar Gadhafi was dead. A "cacophony of celebration" could be heard in Tripoli as ships and cars blasted their horns and shots were fired into the air, said CNN's Dan Rivers.

"It is very, very loud -- a lot of excitement," Rivers said.

"It's a great moment," said Mahmoud Shammam, information minister for Libya's National Transitional Council. "I've been waiting for this moment for decades, and I'm thanking God that I'm alive to see this moment."

Video footage showed a Tripoli street where people embraced and jumped in joy and crowds ran alongside vehicles. Other rejoicing people were hanging out of car windows and sunroofs and gathered in the beds of pickup trucks. The sound of cheering could be heard, along with a call to prayer. Outside a hotel, staff including chefs wearing their white hats gathered, dancing and waving Libyan flags.

"They're breathing a huge sigh of relief here," Rivers said. Many Libyans were concerned that a free Gadhafi might play a role in destabilizing Libya in the future, he said.
In Sirte -- Gadhafi's hometown and the city where he was discovered -- video showed people gathering in celebration, some riding on the tops of cars waving Libyan flags and shooting guns in the air as horns honked.

One man, dressed in fatigues and carrying a weapon, ran up and kissed a television camera. Others chanted, danced and waved their hands in the air, some flashing the "peace" sign. Many had suspected Gadhafi was hiding in Sirte after revolutionary forces took Tripoli in August. He had not been seen in public in months.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/20/world/africa/libya-celebration/#
 
If he was so well respected by his people, explain this.


Libyans erupted in jubilation Thursday from the very first incomplete reports that ousted leader Moammar Gadhafi was dead. A "cacophony of celebration" could be heard in Tripoli as ships and cars blasted their horns and shots were fired into the air, said CNN's Dan Rivers.

"It is very, very loud -- a lot of excitement," Rivers said.

"It's a great moment," said Mahmoud Shammam, information minister for Libya's National Transitional Council. "I've been waiting for this moment for decades, and I'm thanking God that I'm alive to see this moment."

Video footage showed a Tripoli street where people embraced and jumped in joy and crowds ran alongside vehicles. Other rejoicing people were hanging out of car windows and sunroofs and gathered in the beds of pickup trucks. The sound of cheering could be heard, along with a call to prayer. Outside a hotel, staff including chefs wearing their white hats gathered, dancing and waving Libyan flags.

"They're breathing a huge sigh of relief here," Rivers said. Many Libyans were concerned that a free Gadhafi might play a role in destabilizing Libya in the future, he said.
In Sirte -- Gadhafi's hometown and the city where he was discovered -- video showed people gathering in celebration, some riding on the tops of cars waving Libyan flags and shooting guns in the air as horns honked.

One man, dressed in fatigues and carrying a weapon, ran up and kissed a television camera. Others chanted, danced and waved their hands in the air, some flashing the "peace" sign. Many had suspected Gadhafi was hiding in Sirte after revolutionary forces took Tripoli in August. He had not been seen in public in months.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/20/world/africa/libya-celebration/#
1 look at the source: Libya's National Transitional Council. -that's the NTC that he was fighting that came out of Bengazi.

2.Beware of press reports that bolstered the US/NATO war. The interventionists had to prop up their case for killing him
I've read SO MANY false reportages in that they are 1 sided. Or they are outright propaganda

3. Libya is a complex country. Tribal and geographically split ( east , west,south) -
even Tripoli in the far west has factions up agianst the Tunisian border that are hostile to Tripoli.

The best way to look at qaddafi was how was the country under his rule?
Highest standard of living in Africa ( maybe excepting egypt) etc. Oil wealth in the peoples name. high literacy.

and then compare to what it is now *see my blog on DCJ for details*

( 3 governments/US bombing Libya to this day link from ISIS in Syria to AQIM in west africa -migrants to europe
cities in ruins..etc. Jihadist to Egyptian Sinai..

^That's our concern, that's what we did.

Libyan Civil War 2014 ~ Present

Libya 5 years after Qaddafi's death
^ resource links
 
what makes you turds think this little sack of emails will be anything but exculpatory like all the buckets of others of emails

The previous emails were not expulatory they were evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt that she sent classified material over her private server which is a felony.
 
Say it, and I won't complain.

okay......Trump is not Bill, Trump is not Bernie, Trump is not Kaine, Trump is not Obama, Trump is not Biden, Trump is not Pelosi, Trump is not Reid, Trump is not Rangel, Trump is not any Democrat Party senator, Trump is not any Democrat Party representative, Trump is not any Democrat Party governor......
Trump is going to drain the swamp, Trump is going to cut taxes, Trump is going to enforce our immigration laws, Trump is going to repeal Obamacare, Trump is going to make America safe again, Trump is going to make America wealthy again, Trump is going to make America great again......and best of all......Trump is not Hilliary.....
 
okay......Trump is not Bill, Trump is not Bernie, Trump is not Kaine, Trump is not Obama, Trump is not Biden, Trump is not Pelosi, Trump is not Reid, Trump is not Rangel, Trump is not any Democrat Party senator, Trump is not any Democrat Party representative, Trump is not any Democrat Party governor......
Trump is going to drain the swamp, Trump is going to cut taxes, Trump is going to enforce our immigration laws, Trump is going to repeal Obamacare, Trump is going to make America safe again, Trump is going to make America wealthy again, Trump is going to make America great again......and best of all......Trump is not Hilliary.....

In some ways I hope Trump wins, just to show you hacks that he cannot do what he's claiming he can do. He forgets that he is going to have to work with Congress.
 
Oh, yeah PMP - the Republicans LOVE Trump.

You don't know nuthin' about nuthin', do you?
???.....apparently more than you do.......the Republicans have no problem with Trump.......they nominated him, remember?.....do you seriously think they won't vote for laws filling a conservative agenda just because Trump is president?.......if so you are a fool of the highest order.......
 
???.....apparently more than you do.......the Republicans have no problem with Trump.......they nominated him, remember?.....do you seriously think they won't vote for laws filling a conservative agenda just because Trump is president?.......if so you are a fool of the highest order.......

Nah - you're incredibly stupid. Always have been.
 
Lol about my sweetie Troy. :loveu:

To be serious I mostly post anti-Trump articles for my personal amusement in watching how conservatives have thrown away everything they previously held holy to support and defend the deplorable. Everything cons have attacked liberals for has come back to bite them tenfold. Lying, cheating, scamming, assaulting, womanizing, adultery, multiple marriages... it all gets a pass even from evangelicals. It makes me think that Trump supporters have no core principles or a line they wouldn't cross.

This board has many Trump supporters. You must have noticed how they defend him on issues they would never defend in a liberal. What's up with that? You read over and over again the claim that Hillary is power hungry; I see Trump as more power hungry than anyone who ever came before him. He can't handle losing so he'll say anything about anyone no matter how false and outrageous it is when examined.

Years ago I said I wasn't sure Hillary was going to run for office again and got flak over that. Then I voted for Bernie in the primaries and supported him until the nominations were over. So I'm not the rigid Hillary supporter people think I am.

BUT...

It galls me no end to see the endless stream of lies pumped out about Hillary on a daily basis, and so I spend most of the time researching and debunking about 95% of them. Conservatives still don't care, even if every false comment has been parsed and researched and foot-noted up the wazoo. I would do the same had Bernie been our candidate.

I see the difference between Trump and Hillary as dark v. light, angry v. calm, pessimistic v. optimistic. I'm sick of looking at Trump's perpetual sneer and listening to his incoherent raging. If Trump took the word "Hillary" out of his campaign, he would have nothing. He is just that much of an arrogant know-nothing pretending he and he alone will "MAGA."

Btw, I also think it's ironic that for years cons have said "Obama hates America" yet they throw their support to a guy who actually campaigns on the slogan that America isn't great. It looks to me like Trump is the one who really hates America.

You said you supported Bernie in the primary. Did it upset you when he was calling Hillary out for her hawkish foreign policy and her ties to Wall St?
 
You said you supported Bernie in the primary. Did it upset you when he was calling Hillary out for her hawkish foreign policy and her ties to Wall St?

I never liked Hillary's hawkishness, so no. And I never commented on the Wall St. stuff because I never researched her ties or the ties of any candidates or presidents.
 
Trump is about Trump. The only person he is in this for is Trump.

This is 100% factual. Anyone who cannot see this needs to take another look at everything Trump has done, since he started in business through yesterday.

And Hillary is in it for the people, right Thingy ????:derp:

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