Two theories on Immunity for Flynn...

Jarod

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It appears General Flynn went public with his immunity request last week after Prosecutors and Congressional Investigators refused the deal. One would assume, because of the cloud of speculation that hangs over someone taking "a deal" that there is a motive behind going public, and that motive most likely is to get them to give you the deal. Right? Flynn is using public pressure or opinion to try to get his deal....


Tell me what you think, and try not to simply follow partisan lines. This is pure speculation.

Theory 1

I think this is most likely and assumes the best about people. Flynn really does not have much to offer prosecutors, he can only give up something they already have, like a evidence on Manafort or something like that. This would be the reason the real was rejected in the first place... Under this theory, Flynn is trying to make it look, to the public, like he has something good and therefore make it politically uncomfortable for the prosecution to refuse him. Try to make the Congressmen and Prosecutors look like they are protecting Trump so it will be more politically tenable for them to just go ahead and give the deal to make Flynn's nothing of a story public.

Theory 2

This theory assumes partisanship and corruption. Flynn has a great story to tell that implicates big fish, Trump or Bannon or something. The Congressional investigators Republicans are protecting the administration and thus are refusing Flynn's deal, because really they don't want Flynn's story to become public. Flynn went public then in order to expose that and try to bully them into giving him the immunity deal because it looks bad politically to continue protecting the President.


Either way, Flynn is running scared and wants immunity, otherwise he 1 would not be offering the deal and 2 would not have gone public with it.
 
Theory 3

Flynn spent almost 2 years a director of the DIA in the Obama administration.
Could it be that due to the partisanship of the investigating committees, the Democrats don't really want to hear what he has to say....
and won't allow him to testify....he would probably take the 5th rather than implicate himself in some perceived wrongdoing that he might not
even have been aware of that was happening.....lets call it "incidental" collusion with wrongdoing.....

incidentally, if Flynn was your client, as a lawyer, would you advise him to seek immunity before testifying ?

Lois Learner took the 5th rather than testify, and so did ....Loretta Lynch rather than testify about secret ransom payments to Iran under Obama....
 
Theory 3

Flynn spent almost 2 years a director of the DIA in the Obama administration.
Could it be that due to the partisanship of the investigating committees, the Democrats don't really want to hear what he has to say....
and won't allow him to testify....he would probably take the 5th rather than implicate himself in some perceived wrongdoing that he might not
even have been aware of that was happening.....lets call it "incidental" collusion with wrongdoing.....

incidentally, if Flynn was your client, as a lawyer, would you advise him to seek immunity before testifying ?

Theory 3 is possible, I do not think its likely at all. The biggest flaw in that theory is that the Democrats do not control the investigating committees and thus don't control who gets immunity.

If Flynn were my client, my advice to him would depend on what he told me and on what evidence might be out there against him. I would likely seek immunity for him based on what I know because it is clear to me he is guilty of federal crimes.
 
Theory 3

Flynn spent almost 2 years a director of the DIA in the Obama administration.
Could it be that due to the partisanship of the investigating committees, the Democrats don't really want to hear what he has to say....
and won't allow him to testify....he would probably take the 5th rather than implicate himself in some perceived wrongdoing that he might not
even have been aware of that was happening.....lets call it "incidental" collusion with wrongdoing.....

incidentally, if Flynn was your client, as a lawyer, would you advise him to seek immunity before testifying ?

Lois Learner took the 5th rather than testify, and so did ....Loretta Lynch rather than testify about secret ransom payments to Iran under Obama....

The part about working under Obama is kind of the rub lol.

What if it comes out he was dealing shady with the Russians while working for Obama? Then it becomes a question of what did Obama know and when did he know it?

You almost get the idea they're not really in a hurry to talk to Flynn.
 
Theory 3 is possible, I do not think its likely at all. The biggest flaw in that theory is that the Democrats do not control the investigating committees and thus don't control who gets immunity.

If Flynn were my client, my advice to him would depend on what he told me and on what evidence might be out there against him. I would likely seek immunity for him based on what I know because it is clear to me he is guilty of federal crimes.

If he as clearly guilty of federal crimes as you claim, why has he not been charged.....Dana Boente, an Obama appointee is in charge.

And its obvious to me that any decent lawyer would want the immunity if only because of the partisanship on the both committees....
No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch hunt environment without assurance against unfair prosecution.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D.-Calif., the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, acknowledged in a statement that the Justice Department's interest in Flynn's testimony could take precedence over Congress' wish to hear from him.
 
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If he as clearly guilty of federal crimes as you claim, why has he not been charged.....Dana Boente, an Obama appointee is in charge.

And its obvious to me that any decent lawyer would want the immunity if only because of the partisanship on the both committees....
No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch hunt environment without assurance against unfair prosecution.

Rep. Adam Schiff, D.-Calif., the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, acknowledged in a statement that the Justice Department's interest in Flynn's testimony could take precedence over Congress' wish to hear from him.

Like I said, I don't think the democrats in congress are real keen on talking to Flynn---their posturing notwithstanding.

It bears repeating that Flynn worked under Obama a lot longer than he worked under Trump. But maybe Flynn was a straight shooter to the evil Trump corrupted him lol.
 
Like I said, I don't think the democrats in congress are real keen on talking to Flynn---their posturing notwithstanding.

It bears repeating that Flynn worked under Obama a lot longer than he worked under Trump. But maybe Flynn was a straight shooter to the evil Trump corrupted him lol.

So, why did the Republicans deny the the deal Flynn asked for? They are the majority, right?
 
So, why did the Republicans deny the the deal Flynn asked for? They are the majority, right?

If Flynn flips on both Trump and Obama neither party wants him to talk. His lawyer did say Flynn 'has a story to tell'.

I think part of the problem all of the intelligence is so compartmentalized not everyone knows what Flynn knows. So getting him to sqwack could damage both parties.

Or neither. Who knows.
 
If Flynn flips on both Trump and Obama neither party wants him to talk. His lawyer did say Flynn 'has a story to tell'.

I think part of the problem all of the intelligence is so compartmentalized not everyone knows what Flynn knows. So getting him to sqwack could damage both parties.

Or neither. Who knows.

I do. Signed, the Shadow. .. .
 
If Flynn flips on both Trump and Obama neither party wants him to talk. His lawyer did say Flynn 'has a story to tell'.

I think part of the problem all of the intelligence is so compartmentalized not everyone knows what Flynn knows. So getting him to sqwack could damage both parties.

Or neither. Who knows.

I really hope they set something up for him to talk. Flynn was never Obama's NSI. He did not work directly with Obama.
 
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