Two cents on Covid-19 lockdown.

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Charoite

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When people get upset about shelter in place think about this. As far as I'm concerned I'm not sticking in place for my benefit. I have crazy OCD and have been doing half this stuff for more years then I can remember. I almost never get sick and don't even bother with flu shots. It still doesn't matter with stuff like this. You need to keep your distance and at crowded restaurants, sporting events, etc, you just can't. This isn't about you, me, or any single person. The virus will still use you as a vessel even if you are healthy. So just face facts that you can't just jump into groups of people because you're selfish and bored. Do you really want to create a scenario where you could harm someone you know and care about that might not have your healthy vigor?

In addition, you might want to note that a lot of these things aren't going to change if these orders end. Sports events were canceled long before we went into lockdown. Restaurants, etc will still social distance and the economy will stay on much of the same track till the majority of people feel safe. The only thing you might accomplish throwing caution to the wind like these ass-hole protestors is prolong this. Won't solve much yelling at nurses or blocking ambulances. If you get sick you will wish you would have put up with staying at home because being quarantined is like restrictive house arrest. Of course, you'd likely be so miserable those things you felt like you needed to do would be the last thing on your mind. Stay safe and stay smart.
 
Crocodile said:
When people get upset about shelter in place think about this. As far as I'm concerned I'm not sticking in place for my benefit. I have crazy OCD and have been doing half this stuff for more years then I can remember. I almost never get sick and don't even bother with flu shots. It still doesn't matter with stuff like this. You need to keep your distance and at crowded restaurants, sporting events, etc, you just can't. This isn't about you, me, or any single person. The virus will still use you as a vessel even if you are healthy. So just face facts that you can't just jump into groups of people because you're selfish and bored. Do you really want to create a scenario where you could harm someone you know and care about that might not have your healthy vigor?

In addition, you might want to note that a lot of these things aren't going to change if these orders end. Sports events were canceled long before we went into lockdown. Restaurants, etc will still social distance and the economy will stay on much of the same track till the majority of people feel safe. The only thing you might accomplish throwing caution to the wind like these ass-hole protestors is prolong this. Won't solve much yelling at nurses or blocking ambulances. If you get sick you will wish you would have put up with staying at home because being quarantined is like restrictive house arrest. Of course, you'd likely be so miserable those things you felt like you needed to do would be the last thing on your mind. Stay safe and stay smart.
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But ... shouldn't we encourage the Worker Drones to get back to Work? (Someone has to be the Guinea Pigs, right?)
 
Very few ppl will return to public venues other than essential ones until they are sure they won't get sick.

Mass antibody testing would go a really long way to making that happen.
 
Jack said:
But ... shouldn't we encourage the Worker Drones to get back to Work? (Someone has to be the Guinea Pigs, right?)
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I posted this in another thread:

"....I was chatting with my millennial sister. She and her husband had done very well for themselves at under 40 but this shutdown has hammered them very hard. He could lose his business, and she her job because both of their businesses are very people-oriented and deemed non-essential.

Both she and her husband are very liberal even compared to other liberals but now she's talking more like a conservative, "We can't stay shut down. We need to get back to work." I told her I agreed. She said they'd rather work and pay the fines than lose their business. I told her that if enough businesses opened, legal or not, the city or state wouldn't have the resources or will to prosecute everyone...especially since they were not paying for those businesses. This wasn't eminent domain, which also requires fair compensation. The point that idiots had cut taxes so low and increased their spending so much that our nation couldn't even pay its bills before COVID-19 was addressed as was Trump is now just printing money. Almost 3 Trillion dollars worth....and we aren't done yet even if the throttle was full open again. I told her the nation would have to bite the bullet and kiss 3M-9M dead Americans if a cure or vaccine wasn't found, but we are witnessing a watershed moment in American history. We can't stop what is happening now just like we couldn't stop the planes on 9/11. What is done is done. Like then, what will happen after the crisis is over will be millions of Americans screaming "WTF?" at their representatives. "How did we let this happen? Why weren't we prepared? We were warned last fall and you did nothing for six months! Why?" Stuff like that and the result will be our nation changes course just like we did in the years following 9/11.

The good news is that Millennials might end up being revered as this century's "Greatest Generation". What made the "Greatest Generation" great was adversity and "adversity breeds character"; the triple whammy of WWI, the Great Depression and WWII, all within 30 years. The most Millennials don't remember or never knew a world without "A War on Terror". Most were young adults just starting their lives when the Great Recession hit preceded by the Housing Mortgage and Bank crises. We're still exiting the aftermath when we elect a fucking moron as President who cuts even more taxes and raises spending to record heights. Now he's just printing money, which could cause another Depression. Still, "Greatest Generation" is an awesome label!"

The Summer of 2020 will be very memorable, IMO. Much like 9/11.
 
This country cannot stay locked down. This is ridiculous. The numbers are so way off it's almost comical at this point. All the hospitals and ERs here are dead and many medical workers have been furloughed.

This cannot go on much longer. Time to get the wheels moving back in motion.
 
Life is Golden said:
This country cannot stay locked down. This is ridiculous. The numbers are so way off it's almost comical at this point. All the hospitals and ERs here are dead and many medical workers have been furloughed.

This cannot go on much longer. Time to get the wheels moving back in motion.
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Review what happened when they opened up prematurely in 1918 Spanish flu pandemic.
Millions died in the second wave.
 
Life is Golden said:
This country cannot stay locked down. This is ridiculous. The numbers are so way off it's almost comical at this point. All the hospitals and ERs here are dead and many medical workers have been furloughed.

This cannot go on much longer. Time to get the wheels moving back in motion.
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It's not locked down. It's by state. When your state allows, consider moving to a Free State.
 
M. V. Mason said:
Money comes before life in Corporate America
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The same for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; in a world of limited resources, resources must be measured.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few or the one" is the Star Trek version of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

Even Marx knew people had to have enough food to eat through the winter. If everyone ate and the food would last only half the winter, it becomes a math problem regardless of economic system or politics to decide how best to let the community survive.

As I had mentioned to my sister, we're already in this position just like we were when the planes flew into buildings. It's what We, the People, decide to do about it so it doesn't happen again is the most interesting part.
 
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