Tulsi Gabbard: 'It's fair' to say 2020 Democrats advocate for 'open borders'

anatta said:
damn shame.. she's a Democrat, so the Republican establishment would never accept her
and her views on Russia and the Middle East for the Democratic Russiaphobes means she goes nowhere

She could be an independent
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The republican establishment only accepted Trump because they didn’t have a choice lol.

Gabbard could actually be formidable as an independent though it would probably guarantee Trump 2.0.
 
Bill said:




2020 presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard called the characterization that some of her Democratic opponents are in favor of open borders "fair."

The Hawaii congresswoman discussed the issue of immigration and borders during her interview with Dave Rubin on The Rubin Report, which aired this weekend.

Rubin asked, "So immigration, I think there’s a general sense that the candidates, the Democrats are basically trying to outdo each other for open borders, something like that. A) do you think that’s a fair way to start the question? And B) where do you sit on that?”

"I think it’s fair. I don’t — I don’t support open borders," Gabbard answered. "Without secure borders, we don’t really have a country. And while some of the other Democratic candidates will say, ‘Well, that’s a conservative argument and that’s not really what’s being advocated for.’ If you look at the practical implications of some of the things they’re pushing for, it is essentially open borders."​

She went on, "I think there’s a few things we’ve got to do when we’re talking about immigration reform. One is that we’ve got to have secure borders. This is not Trump’s wall from sea to shining sea, it’s about seeing again what makes sense. I look at things from a practical, objective-oriented standpoint, I’m a soldier, so I look at what’s our objective."


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The issue of immigration and border security has taken center stage during the primary debates thus far. During the first debate in Miami in June, all 10 candidates during the second night raised their hands when asked if they believe that crossing the border "should be a civil offense, rather than a crime." The question came after a similar was asked the night before.

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This candidate makes sense on quite a few things.
 
nolongertolerant said:
This candidate makes sense on quite a few things.
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What does not make sense is throwing the party under the bus by agreeing with a fabrication. Also, why does she pretend to be a Progressive when she clearly is not. Her trip to visit Assad was bizarre and her foreign policy is questionable.
 
Cinnabar said:
What does not make sense is throwing the party under the bus by agreeing with a fabrication. Also, why does she pretend to be a Progressive when she clearly is not. Her trip to visit Assad was bizarre and her foreign policy is questionable.
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There are more moderate Democrats than progressives. By a large margin. Anything I have seen so far she is far from a far left Progressive. Which in my opinion is good thing for the Democrats.
 
Cinnabar said:
What does not make sense is throwing the party under the bus by agreeing with a fabrication. Also, why does she pretend to be a Progressive when she clearly is not. Her trip to visit Assad was bizarre and her foreign policy is questionable.
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there you go. Progressives oppose Assad and Russia in Syria -which leaves the Islamists
 
anatta said:
there you go. Progressives oppose Assad and Russia in Syria -which leaves the Islamists
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You oppose taking Syrian immigrants, further destabilizing the region and helping the Islamists. Germany deserves thanks for helping to stabilize Syria, unlike the selfish US. Something is always someone else's problem to the United States. Piece of shit selfish nation.
 
nolongertolerant said:
There are more moderate Democrats than progressives. By a large margin. Anything I have seen so far she is far from a far left Progressive. Which in my opinion is good thing for the Democrats.
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Not any more retard. Just like the Republicans are now a 100% neo-Nazi neo-fascist party, the Democrats are lining up along the lines of the left. Thank God. Only the left can fight your evil and fascism.

DOWN WITH AMERICA! DOWN WITH THE CULT OF THE NATION!
 
You want to ban all non-white immigration, I wanted infinite endless immigrant floods without limit. Why don't we compromise? How about half of infinite? Will you accept that?
 
There are no open borders. We have walls and fencing everywhere it is needed. Immigrants and drugs come in through the ports of entry which are holes in the existing walls. They have police, ICE and other enforcement in abundance at those places because that is where they get through. Trump wants to build a show fence to make it appear that he is making you safer. Reds buy show over substance every time.
Trump claims the drugs come through the places without fences. It just is not true.
 

Your definition of "open borders" changes depending on how your argument is faring at any given time.
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No, open borders is open borders. If you keep telling me that open borders are illegal, and that is not your goal, I'm going to keep giving you examples of what you jackasses are doing that PROVES open borders is EXACTLY what you want


If I asked you what you meant by "open borders" and I asked another Conservative (or one of your other IDs), I wouldn't get the same answer.
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Like I said, I'm going to keep giving you examples of what you jackasses are doing that PROVES open borders is EXACTLY what you want. An example is not a "definition"


Assault rifle = penis replacement

So when did you stop beating your wife?

OH HAHAHA, you're not married.
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Once again, :cruisewhat:
 
Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez said:
If you keep telling me that open borders are illegal, and that is not your goal, I'm going to keep giving you examples of what you jackasses are doing that PROVES open borders is EXACTLY what you want
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"Open borders" is a phrase intellectual lightweights use as a goalpost to shift what you mean at any given time. Like right now, with this shit.

I see right through you.
 
Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez said:
Like I said, I'm going to keep giving you examples of what you jackasses are doing that PROVES open borders is EXACTLY what you want. An example is not a "definition"
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You just shimmy within the goalposts of "open borders" as a phrase because you're trying to elicit an emotional response because you don't have a thoughtful argument and are just a piece of bigoted trash.

And once Trump is gone, you'll delete all these accounts and re-brand yourself.

But that won't last long because you lack the discipline and patience to pull it off.

So when did you stop beating your wife?
 
LV426 said:
"Open borders" is a phrase intellectual lightweights use as a goalpost to shift what you mean at any given time. Like right now, with this shit.

I see right through you.
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Decriminalization. Legalize all who enter without documention.
 
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