Tucker's main manipulation technique

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Anyone ever watch the show?

He has one technique he uses, over & over again. It's right out of the textbook of propaganda and manipulating weak minds.

It goes something like this: (paraphrasing) "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it."

But what he just showed is usually very different from what he SAID it showed. For example, and this is one of his favorites lately: he'll show a clip of Biden or another Democrat talking about how we have to confront and defeat domestic terrorism. Then, he'll say something like (again, paraphrasing): "They're talking about YOU. They're calling you domestic terrorists. They want to start persecuting anyone who voted for Trump, and who disagrees with their agenda."

Before you have a chance to even furrow your brow in doubt, he'll go immediately for the "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it. That's exactly what they said."

Does it work? For people who want to believe in things like Jewish Space Lasers? You tell me.
 
Anyone ever watch the show?

He has one technique he uses, over & over again. It's right out of the textbook of propaganda and manipulating weak minds.

It goes something like this: (paraphrasing) "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it."

But what he just showed is usually very different from what he SAID it showed. For example, and this is one of his favorites lately: he'll show a clip of Biden or another Democrat talking about how we have to confront and defeat domestic terrorism. Then, he'll say something like (again, paraphrasing): "They're talking about YOU. They're calling you domestic terrorists. They want to start persecuting anyone who voted for Trump, and who disagrees with their agenda."

Before you have a chance to even furrow your brow in doubt, he'll go immediately for the "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it. That's exactly what they said."

Does it work? For people who want to believe in things like Jewish Space Lasers? You tell me.

This is what I want to tell you! You'll wake up sooner or later when gas is $5 a gallon and the US is importing oil again. I frankly cannot for the life of me understand how any one would want to destroy the economy and purposefully hand it over to the ChiCons, to my mind that's sheer vandalism. Carry on like that you'll lose the House without question.


The Obama-Era War Against The Economy Is About To Resume


Incoming President Joe Biden ran on gauzy campaign themes of return to calm and normalcy, or something like that. Certainly, he was never challenged by the media in any meaningful way to commit to specifics. But as Inauguration Day approaches, the details are now coming fully into view. In simple terms, Biden plans to resume the Obama-era War Against The Economy.

“War Against The Economy” is the phrase I often used to characterize the Obama administration’s economic policy. Make that the Obama/Biden administration’s economic policy. The year 2013 was the first full year of this blog, and was also the first year of Obama/Biden’s second term. The economy was entering the fifth year of the “recovery” that had begun around the time Obama entered office in 2009, but the “recovery” was notably lethargic and sluggish. In a post in December 2013 titled “Update On The War Against The Economy,” I had a thorough review of the Obama/Biden policies that attacked productive economic activity, and that I thought deserved the lion’s share of the blame for the economic doldrums.

Here’s the short version of subsequent events: Starting in 2017, Trump undid most of the counterproductive Obama/Biden policies. Economic performance returned to normal healthy growth, at least until the pandemic hit. Biden now proposes to re-instate essentially all of the most economically destructive policies.

For today, I’ll focus on my favorite subject, the area of policy known to rational people as “energy” policy, and to hysterics as “climate” policy. In recent days, Biden’s people have let it be known that among his first actions in office will be (1) rejoining the Paris climate accord, and (2) canceling the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline. Meanwhile, Biden has also announce prospective appointments to the EPA who can be counted on to resume the war against fossil fuels, beginning with coal, without regard to negative economic consequences.

My December 2013 post pre-dated the Paris climate accord, but here is what I had to say about the economic consequences of the Obama/Biden attacks on fossil fuels:

With the energy sector accounting for about 8%+ of GDP, Obama has loaded up the EPA with zealots who think they are going to “save the planet” by driving up the cost of energy, making it scarce and unavailable, and impoverishing the American people. Proposed regulations from the EPA effectively make new coal power plants illegal. Separately EPA has declared the life-giving gas CO2 to be a “dangerous pollutant” and has announced that it intends to require anyone building a major emitting source (e.g., factory, oil refinery) to beg for a permit. Thousands of coal miners have been thrown out of work. Shall we build the Keystone pipeline to bring cheap Canadian hydrocarbons into the country? Forget about it. Meanwhile over at the Department of Energy they waste billions on uneconomic, wealth-destroying “green” energy projects. The list of bankrupt recipients of federal loan guarantees is long (Solyndra, Abound Solar, Beacon Power, Fisker, etc.), but the bigger scandal is endless tax benefits to crony capitalist wind and solar energy producers.

And then came the Paris climate accord in 2015, by which the U.S. agreed to hamstring its economy by forcibly reducing CO2 emissions by some 26 to 28%, from a 2005 baseline, by 2025. Meanwhile, the big developing countries, led by China, India, Africa, and Southeast Asia, agreed to absolutely nothing as to CO2 emissions reductions on their part. The accord is totally absurd as anything that a competent U.S. government could ever possibly agree to. The right way to look at it is that a completely cynical Xi Jinping (with counterparts in other developing countries) took full advantage of the stupidest man ever to occupy the Secretary of State position in the U.S., namely John Kerry, together with a President and Vice President bent on undermining, rather than advancing, the interests of the United States.

Since Trump took office in 2017, the absurdity of the Paris accord has become more and more obvious to anyone willing to look. It happens that U.S. CO2 emissions had already been dropping materially from a peak in 2007 of 6.003 billion metric tons, reaching 5.170 billion metric tons in 2016 — a drop of about 14%. But that drop was almost entirely due to the fortuity of the fracking revolution, and the accompanying substitution of somewhat-lower-carbon natural gas for coal. Since 2016, the ongoing emissions decreases have mostly ceased. Where is the next 10 to 15% reduction in emissions needed to meet the Paris target going to come from? Biden is appointing climate zealots to EPA who are licking their chops at the opportunity to shut down cheap and functioning power sources to replace them with intermittent, useless wind and solar sources that will drive up energy costs by a multiple, enrich Democratic donor cronies with tax breaks and subsidies, undermine the reliability of the electricity supply, and likely reduce emissions little if at all.

And meanwhile, what’s going on out there in the developing world? The answer is that those countries committed to nothing in the Paris accord, and are going right on ahead building out fossil fuel power plants, mostly coal, and paying no attention whatsoever to handwringing in America and Europe over the phony “climate emergency.” Here are a couple of data points from a recent email update from the Global Warming Policy Foundation:

A new study from Oxford University on planned development of electricity infrastructure on the continent of Africa shows some 2500 generation facilities under development, the large majority of them fossil fuel-based. “A new study into Africa’s energy generation landscape uses a state-of-the-art machine-learning technique to analyse the pipeline of more than 2,500 planned power plants and their chances of successful commission. The study shows the share of non-hydro renewables in African electricity generation is likely to remain below 10% in 2030. . . . The study further suggests that a decisive move towards renewable energy in Africa would require a significant shock to the current system. This includes large-scale cancellation of fossil fuel plants currently being planned.”

Bloomberg reports on January 11 that India plans to invest some $55 billion by 2030 in coal-fired power production, as part of its plan to reach a $5 trillion economy. “India expects to invest 4 trillion rupees ($54.5 billion) in clean coal projects over the next decade as it seeks to tap domestic energy sources and curb imports, federal home minister Amit Shah said. The investment will be made in clean coal facilities, including coal gasification and coal-bed methane, Shah said at a signing ceremony to develop new mines. He said coal power will be key to achieving India’s ambition of becoming a $5 trillion economy. . . .” Good job to India for using the meaningless term “clean coal.” “Clean” in that locution has nothing to do with reducing CO2 emissions.

And this particular GWPF update does not even mention China, which has its own plans for hundreds of new coal-fired power stations.

Overall data from the International Energy Agency show that, from the signing of the Paris accord in 2015 through 2019 (latest data available), advanced economy CO2 emissions have gone down marginally from 11.7 to 11.3 gigatons annually, but that small decrease has been swamped by emissions increases in the rest of the world (developing countries) from 20.5 to 22.0 gigatons per year. Overall world emission have increased, not decreased, from 32.2 GT to 33.3 GT. Believe me, no matter what the U.S. and Europe do to shackle their economies to appease green zealots, world emissions are going to continue to increase over coming decades, and not by small amounts. Indeed, if big-population areas like India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Vietnam, and many African countries can get their acts together, world CO2 emissions could easily come close to doubling by 2050.

All of this numbers stuff is far beyond the ability of Madame Tussaud Joe to even comprehend. Somehow, his handlers have got him convinced that he is going to save the world by conducting a war on some of the most productive parts of our economy, significantly impoverishing the American people. How long can the media keep the people from figuring this out?

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com...ra-war-against-the-economy-is-about-to-resume
 
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Anyone ever watch the show?

He has one technique he uses, over & over again. It's right out of the textbook of propaganda and manipulating weak minds.

It goes something like this: (paraphrasing) "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it."

But what he just showed is usually very different from what he SAID it showed. For example, and this is one of his favorites lately: he'll show a clip of Biden or another Democrat talking about how we have to confront and defeat domestic terrorism. Then, he'll say something like (again, paraphrasing): "They're talking about YOU. They're calling you domestic terrorists. They want to start persecuting anyone who voted for Trump, and who disagrees with their agenda."

Before you have a chance to even furrow your brow in doubt, he'll go immediately for the "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it. That's exactly what they said."

Does it work? For people who want to believe in things like Jewish Space Lasers? You tell me.
because Trump voters have all been called "domestic terrorists!" or "need to be watched for domestic terrorism"
He's spot on.
Glad to see you are agitated about it as well as me being called a terrorist supporter!
now quit the narrative Trump voters/supporters are d. terrorists
 
This is what I want to tell you! You'll wake up sooner or later when gas is $5 a gallon and the US is importing oil again. I frankly cannot for the life of me understand how any one would want to destroy the economy and purposefully hand it over to the ChiCons, to my mind that's sheer vandalism. Carry on like that you'll lose the House without question.

This literally had nothing to do w/ the OP.
 
because Trump voters have all been called "domestic terrorists!" or "need to be watched for domestic terrorism"
He's spot on.
Glad to see you are agitated about it as well as me being called a terrorist supporter!
now quit the narrative Trump voters/supporters are d. terrorists

No - he's lying.

He's not "spot on."
 
Happily I never watch him. Kudos though, I don't know how you can suffer an insufferable jerk like that clown.
He looks like a privileged pussified angry punk reject from St Elmo's Fire. Andrew McCarthy got the part instead.
 
Anyone ever watch the show?

He has one technique he uses, over & over again. It's right out of the textbook of propaganda and manipulating weak minds.

It goes something like this: (paraphrasing) "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it."

But what he just showed is usually very different from what he SAID it showed. For example, and this is one of his favorites lately: he'll show a clip of Biden or another Democrat talking about how we have to confront and defeat domestic terrorism. Then, he'll say something like (again, paraphrasing): "They're talking about YOU. They're calling you domestic terrorists. They want to start persecuting anyone who voted for Trump, and who disagrees with their agenda."

Before you have a chance to even furrow your brow in doubt, he'll go immediately for the "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it. That's exactly what they said."

Does it work? For people who want to believe in things like Jewish Space Lasers? You tell me.

Bullshit. Tucker’s “main manipulation technique” is to invite live leftards on his show and let them speak their mind while he sits there and looks at them like they’re from another galaxy. The internet is full of hundreds if not thousands of Tucker clips. Maybe you could provide a few that support your theory?

As to domestic terrorism, I’m sure you will understand my skepticism when you can probably find 20 threads on this forum with variations on the theme “are Trump supporters domestic terrorists?” Hell, that bloody moron “biden president” called me an “enemy of the United states” the other day. Stalin would be proud.
 
Bullshit. Tucker’s “main manipulation technique” is to invite live leftards on his show and let them speak their mind while he sits there and looks at them like they’re from another galaxy. The internet is full of hundreds if not thousands of Tucker clips. Maybe you could provide a few that support your theory?

As to domestic terrorism, I’m sure you will understand my skepticism when you can probably find 20 threads on this forum with variations on the theme “are Trump supporters domestic terrorists?” Hell, that bloody moron “biden president” called me an “enemy of the United states” the other day. Stalin would be proud.

What did Biden say that made you think he was referring to you?

Not being snarky. Just curious.
 
Left wing media uses the sandwich technique a TON. Sadly,... it works pretty well. Its all about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Lets say they DONT want you to believe a particular fact. They surround it with absurdities before and after.

The anchor sits there with a smug look on his face, kind of giggling.........." I just cant believe some of the things conservatives believe in! Ha ha ha....Lizard reptilians, STOLEN ELECTIONS, and brain sucking aliens!" Ha ha

This way people throw out the legit with the absurd.

They also sandwich with good or bad news depending on party. So when Obama was in and he had some bad news that they couldnt get away with not reporting.......

Start the segment with positive news about his administration.........then slip in the bad news.........then end segment with good news, end on high note.

They do the same in reverse......

For Trump if he had good news and couldnt escape not reporting... Start with bad....slip in good....end with bad



They dont call it PROGRAMMING for nothing! ;)
 
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Anyone ever watch the show?

He has one technique he uses, over & over again. It's right out of the textbook of propaganda and manipulating weak minds.

It goes something like this: (paraphrasing) "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it."

But what he just showed is usually very different from what he SAID it showed. For example, and this is one of his favorites lately: he'll show a clip of Biden or another Democrat talking about how we have to confront and defeat domestic terrorism. Then, he'll say something like (again, paraphrasing): "They're talking about YOU. They're calling you domestic terrorists. They want to start persecuting anyone who voted for Trump, and who disagrees with their agenda."

Before you have a chance to even furrow your brow in doubt, he'll go immediately for the "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it. That's exactly what they said."

Does it work? For people who want to believe in things like Jewish Space Lasers? You tell me.


Good observation.

It is one of the reasons I never look at anyone's video.

They think because something is recorded it automatically is the truth.
 
Anyone ever watch the show?

He has one technique he uses, over & over again. It's right out of the textbook of propaganda and manipulating weak minds.

It goes something like this: (paraphrasing) "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it."

But what he just showed is usually very different from what he SAID it showed. For example, and this is one of his favorites lately: he'll show a clip of Biden or another Democrat talking about how we have to confront and defeat domestic terrorism. Then, he'll say something like (again, paraphrasing): "They're talking about YOU. They're calling you domestic terrorists. They want to start persecuting anyone who voted for Trump, and who disagrees with their agenda."

Before you have a chance to even furrow your brow in doubt, he'll go immediately for the "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it. That's exactly what they said."

Does it work? For people who want to believe in things like Jewish Space Lasers? You tell me.

Obviously, you don't know what propaganda is.

Carlson is relatively effective at giving you a reasonable argument for something. He shows you a clip or source and comments on it. You are free to agree or disagree and since you know the source(s) you can look them up for yourself and see more if you like.

Propaganda is about hiding the truth when it's inconvenient. It uses a combination of logical fallacies (the Left applies these regularly to their arguments) and manipulation through emotion to be effective.

If what Carlson plays as a clip matches what he then says as commentary, then it's harder to refute it.

It's much easier to go over to CNN or MSNBC and doubt the credibility of their talking heads because they rarely give you information straight up. Instead, they usually foist their opinion on you and use in house "experts" to give it some legitimacy. There's far more propaganda there than with Carlson, not that everything he says shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt or shaker or three.
 
Anyone ever watch the show?

He has one technique he uses, over & over again. It's right out of the textbook of propaganda and manipulating weak minds.

It goes something like this: (paraphrasing) "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it."

But what he just showed is usually very different from what he SAID it showed. For example, and this is one of his favorites lately: he'll show a clip of Biden or another Democrat talking about how we have to confront and defeat domestic terrorism. Then, he'll say something like (again, paraphrasing): "They're talking about YOU. They're calling you domestic terrorists. They want to start persecuting anyone who voted for Trump, and who disagrees with their agenda."

Before you have a chance to even furrow your brow in doubt, he'll go immediately for the "We're not making this up. We just played it for you. You saw it. That's exactly what they said."

Does it work? For people who want to believe in things like Jewish Space Lasers? You tell me.

Tucker is doing what civilized folk do, when making a claim and especially a charge against someone he brings with him what he thinks is the best evidence for that conclusion.

You should be cheering that.
 
Obviously, you don't know what propaganda is.

Carlson is relatively effective at giving you a reasonable argument for something. He shows you a clip or source and comments on it. You are free to agree or disagree and since you know the source(s) you can look them up for yourself and see more if you like.

Propaganda is about hiding the truth when it's inconvenient. It uses a combination of logical fallacies (the Left applies these regularly to their arguments) and manipulation through emotion to be effective.

If what Carlson plays as a clip matches what he then says as commentary, then it's harder to refute it.

It's much easier to go over to CNN or MSNBC and doubt the credibility of their talking heads because they rarely give you information straight up. Instead, they usually foist their opinion on you and use in house "experts" to give it some legitimacy. There's far more propaganda there than with Carlson, not that everything he says shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt or shaker or three.

I suspect that he/she/whatever starts from a position that no reasonable person could agree with Tucker, and then counts all of Tuckers efforts to convince people that he is right propaganda.
 
Bullshit. Tucker’s “main manipulation technique” is to invite live leftards on his show and let them speak their mind while he sits there and looks at them like they’re from another galaxy. The internet is full of hundreds if not thousands of Tucker clips. Maybe you could provide a few that support your theory?

And it is extremely effective because Leftists usually say some of the most insane delusional stuff you can imagine. All it takes to watch them crumble into incoherent jabbering is make them actually try to use facts. It works equally well on this board.
 
I suspect that he/she/whatever starts from a position that no reasonable person could agree with Tucker, and then counts all of Tuckers efforts to convince people that he is right propaganda.

With the Left it is usually more like trying to argue with someone deeply and devoutly religious. Sort of My politician / scientist / expert said it. I believe it. That settles it. When you question their position or try to make them use facts to defend it, they get really butthurt and puckered up about it. That's when the insults start.
 
With the Left it is usually more like trying to argue with someone deeply and devoutly religious. Sort of My politician / scientist / expert said it. I believe it. That settles it. When you question their position or try to make them use facts to defend it, they get really butthurt and puckered up about it. That's when the insults start.

With the Regressive Left, the illiberal Woke, which I claim is the ideology of the Victim Culture Cult, more of a credo really since it tends to be illogical and not reflected in reality.
 
Not much different from religion is it?

That is what I am saying, but most people fail to properly understand the roots of the Woke because they dont comprehend the Victim Culture Cult, which has been getting stronger for decades. Our society is so pervaded by the cult which works constantly to make the required new victims that they need to justify their existence and power that they cant see it. This is what the brainwashings have accomplished.
 
That is what I am saying, but most people fail to properly understand the roots of the Woke because they dont comprehend the Victim Culture Cult, which has been getting stronger for decades. Our society is so pervaded by the cult which works constantly to make the required new victims that they need to justify their existence and power that they cant see it. This is what the brainwashings have accomplished.

That's just one of the dogma's of the Leftist religion along with:

Fair and equal
Social justice
Economic justice
Equality

and a whole raft of other terms that for them don't mean what they're supposed to mean.
 
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