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[Arks&sparka]

THE FOURTH ESTATE HAS BECOME THE FIFTH COLUMN ,IMHO....

I agree with the sentiment but I think you're giving them more credit than they deserve. They wish they were the fifth column. They are a broken relic of a previous era, they are draining their coffers just to stay afloat.

Right now I'm watching a news report by a person who maybe graduated from high school didn't go through journalism School though he is a journalist. I think he gets more views on just his little YouTube channel than all of CNN.

They aren't a fifth color they are a dying animal. This is their death Moan.

The only people that can keep viewing them are the ones that think that they need protection and they need to know about this cabal of white supremacists that are just about to break out of the floodgates.

It's kind of like Al sharpton's grift. They convince a few people that those people need them to do what they're doing. Good if they didn't and white people would have them back in chains.

But there's that old adage you can fool some of the people all of the time you can be a fool all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all the time.

This is a plea of desperation they're not in the position to be the fifth column.

 

[Arks&sparka]

That's definitely part of it, but right-wing media constantly talks about "racial left-wing rioters" and "democratic cities." If they just stuck with the fact that the media has double standards when it comes to race, that would be a lot more accurate.

Right wing media meaning Fox news that's all it is. Is participating in a dying format.

Independent Media is destroying all of these left wing and right wing organizations. Maybe people are just tired of being lied to by the mainstream media.

 

[StoneByStone]

Right wing media meaning Fox news that's all it is. Is participating in a dying format.

Independent Media is destroying all of these left wing and right wing organizations. Maybe people are just tired of being lied to by the mainstream media.

Unfortunately, Conservatives have pretty much taken over YouTube. Channels like PragerU and Crowder give the same Fox talking-points. I do think most people are sick of the mainstream media, but the media they're turning to is probably even worse. Breitbart lies way more than even Fox.

 

[Arks&sparka]

Unfortunately, Conservatives have pretty much taken over YouTube. Channels like PragerU and Crowder give the same Fox talking-points. I do think most people are sick of the mainstream media, but the media they're turning to is probably even worse. Breitbart lies way more than even Fox.

I'm sorry I don't know what you mean they have taken it over. How are The Young Turks able to have a YouTube channel if these people have taken it over? I've seen a lot of videos on YouTube by now this, vox, BuzzFeed. For taking it over they sure have let a lot of these people have a place on YouTube.

 

[StoneByStone]

I'm sorry I don't know what you mean they have taken it over. How are The Young Turks able to have a YouTube channel if these people have taken it over? I've seen a lot of videos on YouTube by now this, vox, BuzzFeed. For taking it over they sure have let a lot of these people have a place on YouTube.

By "taken over" I mean that most of the popular political channels are far-right. Not all of them, just most. YouTube even allows advertisements for Qanon-level Conservatives.

 

[Arks&sparka]

By "taken over" I mean that most of the popular political channels are far-right. Not all of them, just most. YouTube even allows advertisements for Qanon-level Conservatives.

Sorry people don't want to watch other channels as much. Maybe that's because their view points are less popular.

To think anybody has taken over and not just gathered audience is a bit of a conspiracy theory.

 

[StoneByStone]

Sorry people don't want to watch other channels as much. Maybe that's because their view points are less popular.

To think anybody has taken over and not just gathered audience is a bit of a conspiracy theory.

I don't see it as a conspiracy. There are reasons why the Far-Right is rising in America, but it's not a conspiracy.

 

[Arks&sparka]

I don't see it as a conspiracy. There are reasons why the Far-Right is rising in America, but it's not a conspiracy.

It's not really the far right it's just conservativism. Maybe it's rising in popularity because people think we have progressed far enough for right now. Maybe people are tired of being told how they need to check their privilege. Maybe they are tired of the left.

 

[StoneByStone]

It's not really the far right it's just conservativism. Maybe it's rising in popularity because people think we have progressed far enough for right now. Maybe people are tired of being told how they need to check their privilege. Maybe they are tired of the left.

I think it's more likely that people are tired of Multiracialism, and the Right is playing to Ethnic Nationalists.

Conservatives have always been more vulnerable to Fascism, but I'd say that most Conservatives aren't Fascist. What we're seeing now, this modern Trumpism, is far-right in that it's real Fascism.

 

[Arks&sparka]

I think it's more likely that people are tired of Multiracialism, and the Right is playing to Ethnic Nationalists.

there is no multiculturalism. Neither the right nor the left want that. They both want mono cultures they just disagree on which one it should be.

It seems the more conservative side is saying just let it happen, the more left-wing side is wanting to manipulate it.

I don't think ethnic nationalists are very common.

Conservatives have always been more vulnerable to Fascism, but I'd say that most Conservatives aren't Fascist. What we're seeing now, this modern Trumpism, is far-right in that it's real Fascism.

I wouldn't consider Trump very conservative he reminds me a lot more of a 1980s business Democrat and that's what he is. I think the Democrat Party has moved so far left they've lost touch with that. There are people in the conservative party that are far more conservative than Donald Trump and they're never trumpers. They spoke out against Trump during the primaries I remember.

I think the tendency is just to invariably label anything you disagree with as far left or far right.

 

[StoneByStone]

there is no multiculturalism. Neither the right nor the left want that. They both want mono cultures they just disagree on which one it should be.

I didn't say Multiculturalism, though I think we have that too, I said Multiracialism. The establishment, both Left and Right, do want that and are making it happen. However, the Right does it in a more sneaky way while also paying lip service to Ethnic Nationalists. That's what Trump's racist tweets are. They're not serious, but he does that to gain support from Nationalists.

I don't think ethnic nationalists are very common.

In name, no. Most people don't identify as Ethnic Nationalists. However, most people do self-segregate. Most white people do want America to stay white. That's why so many white people are embracing the Right and supporting Trump, despite his many.... many problems.

I wouldn't consider Trump very conservative he reminds me a lot more of a 1980s business Democrat and that's what he is. I think the Democrat Party has moved so far left they've lost touch with that. There are people in the conservative party that are far more conservative than Donald Trump and they're never trumpers. They spoke out against Trump during the primaries I remember.

Trump isn't conservative or liberal. He's a conman who will say anything it takes to make money. That's why he used to praise the Clintons and supported abortion, but then decided to pretend to be a Conservative when he wanted to run for president. He's also not homophobic or transphobic, but pretends to be in order to gain the support of the Evangelicals.
However, the policies and ideas he's promoting are far-right. I do think he wants to be a dictator, so he's right-wing in that sense.

 

[Arks&sparka]

I didn't say Multiculturalism, though I think we have that too, I said Multiracialism. The establishment, both Left and Right, do want that and are making it happen. However, the Right does it in a more sneaky way while also paying lip service to Ethnic Nationalists. That's what Trump's racist tweets are. They're not serious, but he does that to gain support from Nationalists.



In name, no. Most people don't identify as Ethnic Nationalists. However, most people do self-segregate. Most white people do want America to stay white. That's why so many white people are embracing the Right and supporting Trump, despite his many.... many problems.



Trump isn't conservative or liberal. He's a conman who will say anything it takes to make money. That's why he used to praise the Clintons and supported abortion, but then decided to pretend to be a Conservative when he wanted to run for president. He's also not homophobic or transphobic, but pretends to be in order to gain the support of the Evangelicals.
However, the policies and ideas he's promoting are far-right. I do think he wants to be a dictator, so he's right-wing in that sense.

So The lunatic Fringe is losing popularity because nobody believes in their imaginary racism?

That's awesome people are more and more informed. The only ones really preaching about this are psychopaths. How is it anything but a good thing that psychopaths are less popular in the media? If your contention is mainstream media is preaching this batshit nuts conspiracy then good they should die. They couldn't happen fast enough and to a more deserving group of people.

Pretending there's hate for ratings what a scummy thing to do.

 

[StoneByStone]

So The lunatic Fringe is losing popularity because nobody believes in their imaginary racism?

I wouldn't say the Left is a lunatic fringe. Most Americans are pretty socially liberal. That's why the Right has to play both sides of the fence when it comes to things like rights for women and LGBT people.

That's awesome people are more and more informed. The only ones really preaching about this are psychopaths. How is it anything but a good thing that psychopaths are less popular in the media? If your contention is mainstream media is preaching this batshit nuts conspiracy then good they should die. They couldn't happen fast enough and to a more deserving group of people.

But the thing is that people aren't more informed. Sources like Alex Jones, Breitbart, PragerU, and so on are even LESS trustworthy than Fox. Fox is biased AF, but they rarely just make up shit out of thin air like these internet-based outlets do. The spread of politics on social media has made the Fake News problem a hundred times worse.
Now that being said, I'm all for having an alternative to mainstream media and I think some people, like Philip DeFranco, do a fantastic job. But the majority of "alternative news" sites just aren't accurate.

 

[Arks&sparka]

I wouldn't say the Left is a lunatic fringe.

No nether would I. People that believe in this CRT insanity are. The Democrats and the sane left would be wise to drop that nonsense like a hot potato.

Most Americans are pretty socially liberal. That's why the Right has to play both sides of the fence when it comes to things like rights for women and LGBT people.

So it isn't far right, it's mostly reasonable. They don't like insanity like CRT. The moderate left would be wise to not embrace that. People are moving right to get away from that, that's an indication that it's Fringe.

But the thing is that people aren't more informed.

Doesn't sound like it. This cockamamie ethno-nationalist conspiracy according to your own words is why people that promote it are losing popularity. It's the fringe. People moving away from it is good.

Sources like Alex Jones, Breitbart, PragerU, and so on are even LESS trustworthy than Fox. Fox is biased AF, but they rarely just make up shit out of thin air like these internet-based outlets do. The spread of politics on social media has made the Fake News problem a hundred times worse.

I Don't really know much of what brightbart or Alex Jones have to say but I've never heard anything about them talking about some conspiracy of white supremacists. I've listened to PragerU I've never heard him mention it.

This fake news about people secretly wanting an ethnostate isn't coming from them. I wouldn't call it fake news either, more of a paranoid delusion.

Now that being said, I'm all for having an alternative to mainstream media and I think some people, like Philip DeFranco, do a fantastic job. But the majority of "alternative news" sites just aren't accurate.

The majority of main stream media are confirmed liars. I think what you mean by accurate is you agree with them.

 

[StoneByStone]

No nether would I. People that believe in this CRT insanity are. The Democrats and the sane left would be wise to drop that nonsense like a hot potato.
So it isn't far right, it's mostly reasonable. They don't like insanity like CRT. The moderate left would be wise to not embrace that. People are moving right to get away from that, that's an indication that it's Fringe.

I think Democrats should drop CRT and the "systemic racism" narrative. However, if they do, they'll lose most of the non-white vote. See this is the problem with a society becoming multiracial. Now Democrats are pretty much forced to suck up to non-white voters.

White people are moving to the Right to get away from anti-white racial politics. However, the right-wing establishment has embraced Fascism. There kinda is no more moderate Right in America. We have the anti-white Left and we have the Fascist Right.

Doesn't sound like it. This cockamamie ethno-nationalist conspiracy according to your own words is why people that promote it are losing popularity. It's the fringe. People moving away from it is good.
I Don't really know much of what brightbart or Alex Jones have to say but I've never heard anything about them talking about some conspiracy of white supremacists. I've listened to PragerU I've never heard him mention it.

Like I said, most white people don't identify as Ethnic Nationalists or White Nationalists. Most white people don't want to think of themselves as "racist." However, they respond to Nationalist policies, which is why so many of them backed Trump. Basically, most white people will support pro-white policies as long as they're presented in a way that lets them feel non-racist. The wall isn't to keep out Mexicans, it's to keep out "illegal immigrants!"

No, Fascists like Alex Jones and PragerU are denying that Trump uses racial politics or that his supporters are White Nationalists. They're the ones that white people are flocking too, thus bringing us closer to Fascism.

The majority of main stream media are confirmed liars. I think what you mean by accurate is you agree with them.

I'm saying that mainstream media is inaccurate, but most alternative online sources are a thousand times worse.

 

[Arks&sparka]

I think Democrats should drop CRT and the "systemic racism" narrative. However, if they do, they'll lose most of the non-white vote. See this is the problem with a society becoming multiracial. Now Democrats are pretty much forced to suck up to non-white voters.

White people are moving to the Right to get away from anti-white racial politics. However, the right-wing establishment has embraced Fascism. There kinda is no more moderate Right in America. We have the anti-white Left and we have the Fascist Right.



Like I said, most white people don't identify as Ethnic Nationalists or White Nationalists. Most white people don't want to think of themselves as "racist." However, they respond to Nationalist policies, which is why so many of them backed Trump. Basically, most white people will support pro-white policies as long as they're presented in a way that lets them feel non-racist. The wall isn't to keep out Mexicans, it's to keep out "illegal immigrants!"

No, Fascists like Alex Jones and PragerU are denying that Trump uses racial politics or that his supporters are White Nationalists. They're the ones that white people are flocking too, thus bringing us closer to Fascism.



I'm saying that mainstream media is inaccurate, but most alternative online sources are a thousand times worse.

Yeah this kind of stuff is far left Fringe. You can create any conspiracy you like to explain why people are moving away from this insane belief but it's all coping mechanism.

There's nothing really for us to talk about here you are out of your mind. And I recommend psychological help.

I started out laughing and then I felt bad because you might actually believe this nutty shit.

 

[StoneByStone]

Yeah this kind of stuff is far left Fringe. You can create any conspiracy you like to explain why people are moving away from this insane belief but it's all coping mechanism.

There's nothing really for us to talk about here you are out of your mind. And I recommend psychological help.

I started out laughing and then I felt bad because you might actually believe this nutty shit.

First of all, look up the word "conspiracy" so you can use it correctly.
Secondly, if you think it's insane to think white people want to live in white neighborhoods, you've probably led a very sheltered life.

 

[Arks&sparka]

First of all, look up the word "conspiracy" so you can use it correctly.

that was me being polite. I really think what you're espousing here is the paranoid delusion. Fascists and white supremacists give me a break. Why don't you just tell me the lizard people or vampires.

Secondly, if you think it's insane to think white people want to live in white neighborhoods, you've probably led a very sheltered life.

I get the delusion is very real to you. But I'm not going to humor you.

 

[Code1211]

First of all, we don't know exactly what the politics of the rioters are. Most BLM protesters oppose "systemic racism" and police brutality, but don't care much about other policies. Not only are they not Socialists, they probably don't have much to say about economics at all. We also don't know how many of these rioters are protesting at all. A lot of them could just be Anarchists who enjoy rioting and looting. There have also been cases of the Right showing up to riot just to inflame the situation.

Secondly, while I don't support rioting, I accept that the rioters aren't trying to tear the entire country down. They're rioting because they stupidly think this will help end police brutality.

With the greatest respect, if I had to make a guess on the political "lean" of the demonstrators, protestors and rioters, guessing "Liberal" seems justified.

In truth, I haven't seen anyone interviewed in Seattle or Portland or Minneapolis that claims to be a TEA Party supporter. I never see little tea bags hanging from anyone's hat as they loot the local Target.

Regarding the interest displayed by the rioters in anything beyond destruction and the spread of terror, I agree with you. They do seem to be, by and large, mind numbed idiots.

Whatever their goal may have once been, they now seem determined to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Don Lemon said, "We're going to have to blow up the entire system...". I believe he slides to the Left on the political spectrum. Blowing things up and burning things down seems to be the M.O. of the rioters.

 

[StoneByStone]

With the greatest respect, if I had to make a guess on the political "lean" of the demonstrators, protestors and rioters, guessing "Liberal" seems justified.

In truth, I haven't seen anyone interviewed in Seattle or Portland or Minneapolis that claims to be a TEA Party supporter. I never see little tea bags hanging from anyone's hat as they loot the local Target.

Regarding the interest displayed by the rioters in anything beyond destruction and the spread of terror, I agree with you. They do seem to be, by and large, mind numbed idiots.

Whatever their goal may have once been, they now seem determined to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Don Lemon said, "We're going to have to blow up the entire system...". I believe he slides to the Left on the political spectrum. Blowing things up and burning things down seems to be the M.O. of the rioters.

But are they really Liberals if they only care about one issue?
And if the Right is rioting there to inflame the situation, of course they're not going to admit that in an interview.