Truth, Part of the strategy

Kamala Trump

Kamala Trump

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All the revealing information about the global elites and their plans to rule the world is now basically out in the open. Just googlee it; YOu can read all about it. I believe part of the plan, which truly is spiritual in nature (meaning it transcends energy states; it's a quantum thing), is to have people knowingly opt in or out of the plan, to identify who will serve, and who would rebel. They have plans for the rebels. They always do.

Who will lie for us?
Who is loyal?
Who will kiss the ring of satan?

Just remember, you have free will. We can opt out.
 
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Just remember, you have free will.

No we don't.

We have will, but to call it free is an absolute misnomer.

We make choices based on our accumulated conditioning. We have no control over how we are conditioned, ergo will isn't free....
 
AnyOldIron said:
Just remember, you have free will.

No we don't.

We have will, but to call it free is an absolute misnomer.

We make choices based on our accumulated conditioning. We have no control over how we are conditioned, ergo will isn't free....
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We do. You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

You sound like your apologizing for any wrong done by another, "They couldn't help it, it was part of their conditioning!"

It is simply rubbish.
 
We are trained in the ways of our culture as children. If we stray too far we are labeled as insane, or something of that nature and are likely to be incarcerated.
Shunned and outcast at the least.
 
You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

You are talking to someone who thinks Einstein advocated never using common sense, so he has completely abandoned the notion. :D
 
uscitizen said:
We are trained in the ways of our culture as children. If we stray too far we are labeled as insane, or something of that nature and are likely to be incarcerated.
Shunned and outcast at the least.
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I thought you were leaving? Don't you know it's rude to leave an adios thread and then not go? What's the matter, couldn't break the habit cold turkey? Hmmm? ...It's a tough monkey to shake! :p
 
We do. You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

You sound like your apologizing for any wrong done by another, "They couldn't help it, it was part of their conditioning!"

It is simply rubbish.

Every perception you have, of any situation or item, is conditioned. If we had control of this conditioning process, then we could control every aspects of our lives, including the actions of others.

Are you claiming that we have that ability?

This is not defeatist or extremist, just because you like to think of yourself as some independent island. Things that you don't like can still be true.
 
You are talking to someone who thinks Einstein advocated never using common sense, so he has completely abandoned the notion.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein

You are arguing against Einstein, Dixie, not me. Unless of course you wish to rewrite what he wrote again, so it makes your point...

'Common sense' is a non-entity, it is nothing more than prejudices and assumptions shared in common by a society. It has nothing to do with reason or reality.
 
I thought you were leaving? Don't you know it's rude to leave an adios thread and then not go? What's the matter, couldn't break the habit cold turkey? Hmmm? ...It's a tough monkey to shake!

Says a poster who has stomped off on many occasions, only to come sulking back... ha ha ha!
 
AnyOldIron said:
We do. You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

You sound like your apologizing for any wrong done by another, "They couldn't help it, it was part of their conditioning!"

It is simply rubbish.

Every perception you have, of any situation or item, is conditioned. If we had control of this conditioning process, then we could control every aspects of our lives, including the actions of others.

Are you claiming that we have that ability?

This is not defeatist or extremist, just because you like to think of yourself as some independent island. Things that you don't like can still be true.
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We can control this conditioning process, we can free ourselves, or we can enslave others. The illuminati uses abuse and torture to split personalities into different facets with different programming, inside the same person.

http://www.raven1.net/ckln-cst.htm
A lecture by Dr. Colin Ross entitled "The CIA and Military Mind Control Research: Building the Manchurian Candidate" given April 18, 1996 in Orange County, California. Dr. Ross gives a thorough overview of the documented history of US CIA and military mind control experimentation, particularly creating mind controlled agents using hypnosis and trauma-based dissociation (or multiple personalities). He talks about extensive bizarre experimental projects and the many CIA mind control contracts with top psychiatrists, psychologists and institutions. He discusses Canadian doctor George Estabrooks and his role in developing Manchurian Candidate agents for military, intelligence, and police agencies using hypnosis, drugs, brain implants, and trauma-based dissociation.
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AssHatZombie said:
We can control this conditioning process, we can free ourselves, or we can enslave others. The illuminati uses abuse and torture to split personalities into different facets with different programming, inside the same person.
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If an organisation such as the Illuminati (if they exist) is producing the conditioning effect then it isn't the individual that is controlling the conditioning process.

For example, an individual's perception of dogs. The perception is built up by contact with dogs. If the first contact with a dog is negative to the individual, then that person's perception of dogs will be negative. With each contact with dogs, the individual's perception will change.

But the individual has no real control over the actions of the dogs that alter that perception. Ergo, the individual cannot control the manner in which they are conditioned. There are too many variables, as I said, an individual has no control over the actions of others or general circumstances.

Humans possess will, but to describe that will as free is a total misnomer. :thup:
 
AnyOldIron said:
I thought you were leaving? Don't you know it's rude to leave an adios thread and then not go? What's the matter, couldn't break the habit cold turkey? Hmmm? ...It's a tough monkey to shake!

Says a poster who has stomped off on many occasions, only to come sulking back... ha ha ha!
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I said I would be back from time to time. But I guess I should Have said for MR picky ass, that I would not be here as often as my professional and personal work is eating up more of my time.
I was waiting for some batches to finish in the middle of the night....
Kiss my wrinkly old butt dixie :)
 
On the topic of free will. Can a person just pick and choose to be Gay or straight ? Have acrophobia or not ? Be gregarious or shy ?
 
On the topic of free will. Can a person just pick and choose to be Gay or straight ? Have acrophobia or not ? Be gregarious or shy ?

I'm not sure if gayness is conditioned, I think the latest research suggests it is genetic.

The others are more likely to be conditioned.
 
AnyOldIron said:
We do. You can "recondition" yourself in many different ways. To say we have no control over such things is defeatist and an extremist position, to say the least.

You sound like your apologizing for any wrong done by another, "They couldn't help it, it was part of their conditioning!"

It is simply rubbish.

Every perception you have, of any situation or item, is conditioned. If we had control of this conditioning process, then we could control every aspects of our lives, including the actions of others.

Are you claiming that we have that ability?

This is not defeatist or extremist, just because you like to think of yourself as some independent island. Things that you don't like can still be true.
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We can consciously choose to recondition ourselves. One of the largest examples of considerable change is choosing to convert. One takes their environment and makes themselves from it, the environment doesn't make them.

If the environment made the person, each child in a torn and abusive home would have the same reaction to it. This doesn't happen. Some choose to be fighters for the right, some choose to simply live well, some choose to perpetuate the abuse. All of these were choices that they made.

While a human can't choose their eye color, or probably their sexuality in most cases... They can choose how they interact with the world regardless of their surroundings.

You are what you think, not what happens around you.

Each tiny choice effectively limits the choices you get in the larger picture, but they are still connected. So many choices happen so quickly most people think it is "chance" that brings them to the places in which they end, but in reality it isn't they made a string of choices based on how they choose to interact with their environment. It is there that people can make large changes in their lives all without actually changing the environment. The attempt to assume no responsibility for your life is all the rage lately, you are a product of your environment....

No, you are a product of the choices you made in how to interact with your environment.
 
Damo, no one rule / action effects all humans the same. We have to deal in generalities for the most part.
 
uscitizen said:
Damo, no one rule / action effects all humans the same. We have to deal in generalities for the most part.
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Generalities are a way of ignoring all those tiny choices that brought you to where you are. Another way of attempting to say, "See! It isn't my fault at all! It's the world and how I was raised!"
 
Now we are drifting into another area, that of personal responsibility and accepting consequences for ones own actions.
Personal responsibility must be taught and is onr of the conditioning aspects of humans.

then too some people are just not smart enough to make the connection between their actions and the consequences. Neos seem to fall into that category. A generalization I realize but I feel a good generalization.
 
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