Trump's "secret plan" for ISIS

NOVA said:

Well, IF they are OUR generals.....Obama is firing them for us.....did you give him permission ?

Here is the list of our military elite who have been purged or fired under Obama:
Commanding Generals fired:

· General John R. Allen-U.S. Marines Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
· Major General Ralph Baker (2 Star)-U.S. Army Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa (April 2013)
· Major General Michael Carey (2 Star)-U.S. Air Force Commander of the 20th US Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (Oct 2013)
· Colonel James Christmas-U.S. Marines Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (July 2013)
· Major General Peter Fuller-U.S. Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
· Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus-U.S. Marine Corps Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
· General Carter F. Ham-U.S. Army African Command (Oct 2013)
· Lieutenant General David H. Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.-U.S. Army 58th Superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, NY (2013)
· Command Sergeant Major Don B Jordan-U.S. Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
· General James Mattis-U.S. Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
· Colonel Daren Margolin-U.S. Marine in charge of Quantico's Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
· General Stanley McChrystal-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
· General David D. McKiernan-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
· General David Petraeus-Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
· Brigadier General Bryan Roberts-U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
· Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant-U.S. Marine Corps Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S. Pacific Command & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
· Colonel Eric Tilley-U.S. Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
· Brigadier General Bryan Wampler-U.S. Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)

Commanding Admirals fired:
· Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette-U.S. Navy Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
· Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3 Star, demoted to 2 Star)-U.S. Navy Deputy Commander of the US Strategic Command, Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)

Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)
· Captain David Geisler-U.S. Navy Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
· Commander Laredo Bell-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
· Lieutenant Commander Kurt Boenisch-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
· Commander Nathan Borchers-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Stout (Mar 2011)
· Commander Robert Brown-U.S. Navy Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
· Commander Andrew Crowe-Executive Officer Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
· Captain Robert Gamberg-Executive Officer carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
· Captain Rex Guinn-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
· Commander Kevin Harms- U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
· Lieutenant Commander Martin Holguin-U.S. Navy Commander mine countermeasures Fearless (Oct 2011)
· Captain Owen Honors-U.S. Navy Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
· Captain Donald Hornbeck-U.S. Navy Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego
(Apr 2011)
· Rear Admiral Ron Horton-U.S. Navy Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific
(Mar 2011)
· Commander Etta Jones-U.S. Navy Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
· Commander Ralph Jones-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
· Commander Jonathan Jackson-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
· Captain Eric Merrill-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
· Captain William Mosk-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Station Rota, U.S. Navy Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
· Commander Timothy Murphy-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
· Commander Joseph Nosse-U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine Kentucky (Oct 2011)
· Commander Mark Olson-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
· Commander John Pethel-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
· Commander Karl Pugh-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
· Commander Jason Strength-U.S. Navy Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
· Captain Greg Thomas-U.S. Navy Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
· Commander Mike Varney-U.S. Navy Commander attack submarine Connecticut (Jun 2011)
· Commander Jay Wylie-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Momsen (Apr 2011)
Naval Officers fired: (All in 2012):
· Commander Alan C. Aber-Executive Officer Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
· Commander Derick Armstrong- U.S. Navy Commander missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
· Commander Martin Arriola- U.S. Navy Commander destroyer USS Porter (Aug 2012)
· Captain Antonio Cardoso- U.S. Navy Commander Training Support Center San Diego (Sep 2012)
· Captain James CoBell- U.S. Navy Commander Oceana Naval Air Station's Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic (Sep 2012)
· Captain Joseph E. Darlak- U.S. Navy Commander frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
· Captain Daniel Dusek-U.S. Navy Commander USS Bonhomme
· Commander David Faught-Executive Officer destroyer Chung-Hoon (Sep 2012)
· Commander Franklin Fernandez- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
· Commander Ray Hartman- U.S. Navy Commander Amphibious dock-landing ship Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
· Commander Shelly Hakspiel-Executive Officer Navy Drug Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
· Commander Jon Haydel- U.S. Navy Commander USS San Diego (Mar 2012)
· Commander Diego Hernandez- U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
· Commander Lee Hoey- U.S. Navy Commander Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego (May 2012)
· Commander Ivan Jimenez-Executive Officer frigate Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
· Commander Dennis Klein- U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Columbia (May 2012)
· Captain Chuck Litchfield- U.S. Navy Commander assault ship USS Essex (Jun 2012)
· Captain Marcia Kim Lyons- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic New England (Apr 2012)
· Captain Robert Marin- U.S. Navy Commander cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb 2012)
· Captain Sean McDonell- U.S. Navy Commander Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL (Nov 2012)
· Commander Corrine Parker- U.S. Navy Commander Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)
· Captain Liza Raimondo- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, MD (Jun 2012)
· Captain Jeffrey Riedel- Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program (Jan 2012)
· Commander Sara Santoski- U.S. Navy Commander Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15 (Sep 2012)
· Commander Kyle G. Strudthoff-Executive Officer Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 (Sep 2012)
· Commander Sheryl Tannahill- U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Nashville, TN (Sep 2012)
· Commander Michael Ward- U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Pittsburgh (Aug 2012)
· Captain Michael Wiegand- U.S. Navy Commander Southwest Regional Maintenance Center (Nov 2012)
· Captain Ted Williams- U.S. Navy Commander amphibious command ship Mount Whitney (Nov 2012)
· Commander Jeffrey Wissel- U.S. Navy Commander of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1 (Feb 2012)

Naval Officers fired: (All in 2013):
· Lieutenant Commander Lauren Allen-Executive Officer submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
· Reserve Captain Jay Bowman-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Fort Dix, NJ (Mar 2013)
· Captain William Cogar-U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Mercy's medical treatment facility (Sept 2013)
· Commander Steve Fuller-Executive Officer frigate Kauffman (Mar 2013)
· Captain Shawn Hendricks-Program Manager for naval enterprise IT networks (June 2013)
· Captain David Hunter-U.S. Navy Commander of Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron 12 & Coastal Riverine Group 2 (Feb 2013)
· Captain Eric Johnson-U.S. Navy Chief of Military Entrance Processing Command at Great Lakes Naval Training Center, IL (2013)
· Captain Devon Jones-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Air Facility El Centro, CA (July 2013)
· Captain Kevin Knoop-U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Comfort's medical treatment facility (Aug 2013)
· Lieutenant Commander Jack O'Neill-U.S. Navy Commander Operational Support Center Rock Island, IL (Mar 2013)
· Commander Allen Maestas-Executive Officer Beachmaster Unit 1 (May 2013)
· Commander Luis Molina-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Pasadena (Jan 2013)
· Commander James Pickens-Executive Officer frigate Gary (Feb 2013)
· Lieutenant Commander Mark Rice-U.S. Navy Commander Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
· Commander Michael Runkle-U.S. Navy Commander of Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 2 (May 2013)
· Commander Jason Stapleton-Executive Office Patrol Squadron 4 in Hawaii (Mar 2013)
· Commander Nathan Sukols-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
· Lieutenant Daniel Tyler-Executive Officer Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
· Commander Edward White-U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 106 (Aug 2013)
· Captain Jeffrey Winter-U.S. Navy Commander of Carrier Air Wing 17 (Sept 2013)
· Commander Thomas Winter-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Montpelier (Jan 2013)
· Commander Corey Wofford- U.S. Navy Commander frigate Kauffman (Feb 2013)

http://www.rense.com/general96/listof.html
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/why-are-dozens-of-high-ranking-officers-being-purged-from-the-u-s-military


I'll bet you thought this stuff only happened in Russia or China or Korea.......fool

I'm sure he came up with good excuses for each and every one of them too.......
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Humorous websites. Thanks for the chuckle
 
Seahawk said:
Why can't you answer my question?

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Obama's been working with allies & using an air campaign to go after ISIS' strongholds in Iraq & Syria, and reduce their territory by 40%, all while killing over 20,000 ISIS members including key members of their leadership. Clinton has promised to continue a lot of that, focus on intel & she also ties gun control into helping prevent attacks at home (whether you agree w/ that or not). She also wants to infiltrate and dismantle the global network that supplies ISIS w/ cash & arms. Both emphasize the need to work w/ both our Muslim allies & with Muslim communities for better intel. In a nutshell, it's about working with our allies & gathering better intel, and using airstrikes when targets are identified.

Now, do you have any opinion about Trump's "secret plan"? Or do you just jump on threads that are clearly about Trump with "what about Hillary?"
 
NOVA said:
Over the past five years, just a few of those who serve at the pleasure of the president have been forcibly shown the door. Many more have weathered controversy and embarrassment and figured out a way to hold on for dear life. Still others know how to take a hint, choosing to resign rather than risk an unceremonious dismissal at the hands of the commander-in-chief........a purge, no different than what occurs in Russia and China at the hands of dictators and wannabe dictators.....
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Right. No different than China or Russia. lol

Did Hillary have any of them killed?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
you know for me that's a truly ironic statement. I was 12 when Nixon had Kissinger announce that "peace was just around the corner." In Vietnam and that he had a secret plan to end the war. It not only turned the election in his favor it was the most bald faced lie a politician ever told this nation cause Nixon was secretly expanding the bombing in North Vietnam and into Cambodia and Laos.

Anyone who believes Trump has a secret plan for ISIS is a moron.
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People today especially millenials are inclined to view Hi Chi Minh as a benevolent father figure when in fact he was a ruthless bloodthirsty dictator. Nobody in Saigon, especially from my daughter in law's generation has a good word to say about him. Americans are welcome in Vietnam now, all the people want to do now is make money and improve their lives. You should read this article by Max Hastings, he is a man who really knows about that war.

I was there. Like a million others, I remember it with a vividness that will never fade: the red dawns, the relentless clatter of rotor blades, the hammer of automatic weapons fire in the paddy fields, the mute, unknowable faces of Vietnamese peasants and soldiers, dense columns of smoke rising from hamlets stricken by bomb or shell. For my generation of journalists of every nationality, Vietnam was the place we wanted to be: to watch unfolding an epic human and political tragedy and also, let us be frank, to test our young manhood.

To criss-cross the cool sky in Huey helicopters, sitting at the open door with our feet on the skids — no sissy seat-belts; to plough on foot through the impossibly hot and humid country, cursing the leeches and hoping the American soldier in front and not oneself would trip a mine or meet a burst of AK-47 fire.
Even as a very young man, I could understand the Americans were losing the war, and even see why: because they despised the culture and poverty of the people they were supposedly fighting to defend

The story really began not in 1965 but 20 years earlier, when the British Army — yes, our soldiers — arrived to take control of French Indochina, liberated from Japanese occupation. Fierce fighting broke out between the would-be liberators and Vietnamese nationalists, bitterly opposed to a renewal of French colonial occupation. Lord Mountbatten, Supreme Allied Commander, South-East Asia, urged both the Dutch overlords of Indonesia and the French rulers of Indochina to parley with the nationalists, but neither took heed. France's pride had been so devastated by World War II that its government was determined to reassert mastery of the Asian jewel in their colonial empire.The upshot was a decade of struggle, during which the French army, and particularly the Foreign Legion (including more than a few veterans of Hitler's army), bled prodigiously in the attempt to hold the country. The story ended with an epic French defeat, at Dien Bien Phu on July 7, 1954, followed by the independence and partition of Vietnam. The North fell into the hands of Ho Chi Minh and his communist regime; the South surrendered to what Americans then dubbed 'a military strongman' — Ngo Dinh Diem.

Through the following decade, the communists pursued an increasingly bitter guerrilla struggle to gain control of the South. These were the iciest days of the Cold War. America and its allies had fought a three-year war to save Korea from northern domination, and in 1953 forced the communists to accept a stalemate, enabling the South to embark on a long journey towards democracy and prosperity. In Washington during the Kennedy era, the 'domino theory' held sway: if the communists were allowed to seize one Asian country, others would relentlessly follow. If Vietnam fell, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand must inevitably go, too.
The British had fought a successful Fifties campaign to defeat a Chinese communist insurgency in Malaya. Why should not America do the same?
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Seahawk said:
How is it possible he is a major party candidate? Is it our fault? Or the powers that be?

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Trump as candidate is the fault of dim bulb Righties angry at the fact this country continues to move forward while they don't.
 
anatta said:
is he back on this "secret plan" stuff? I heard him mention a 30 day plan from the military.

*meh* he'll get it together if POTUS.
That's when the advisors sit you down and tell you the fun of winging it while campaigning is over.

For all her "experience" Clinton has shitty judgement..she's a screw up. so there is that too.
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Yup, Obama was going to close Gitmo till his advisors straightened him out lol.
 
Seahawk said:
How is it possible he is a major party candidate? Is it our fault? Or the powers that be?

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Usually I would say the party/powers that be, but honestly they hate him as much as everyone else.......

The vetting process broke down, they way under estimated the anti-establishment monster they have been feeding..

While they didn't create it, they did allow it into the room & now it is consuming them............
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Yup, Obama was going to close Gitmo till his advisors straightened him out lol.
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it's still the plan.
He can't close it, he's letting out "high risk" bad guys who are supposedly under supervision
( Like Oman is going to do anything about Yemeni terrorists once they return to Yemen?)

His other part of the plan is to just drone the fuck out of everyone -signature strikes and all - as dead men tell no tales.
 
Thing1 said:
Obama's been working with allies & using an air campaign to go after ISIS' strongholds in Iraq & Syria, and reduce their territory by 40%, all while killing over 20,000 ISIS members including key members of their leadership. Clinton has promised to continue a lot of that, focus on intel & she also ties gun control into helping prevent attacks at home (whether you agree w/ that or not). She also wants to infiltrate and dismantle the global network that supplies ISIS w/ cash & arms. Both emphasize the need to work w/ both our Muslim allies & with Muslim communities for better intel. In a nutshell, it's about working with our allies & gathering better intel, and using airstrikes when targets are identified.

Now, do you have any opinion about Trump's "secret plan"? Or do you just jump on threads that are clearly about Trump with "what about Hillary?"
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Don't hold your breath waiting for YurtHawk to answer.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
yea well good luck with that. You know what they say about those who fail to learn from history?

There probably aren't to many people over the age of 50 who's hair wasn't standing on end from Trumps Nixonian comment or wh have forgotten the wave of riots across the nation that happened because of his lie.
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Trumptards like Darth want another Nixon.
Sad.
 
NOVA said:
Over the past five years, just a few of those who serve at the pleasure of the president have been forcibly shown the door. Many more have weathered controversy and embarrassment and figured out a way to hold on for dear life. Still others know how to take a hint, choosing to resign rather than risk an unceremonious dismissal at the hands of the commander-in-chief........a purge, no different than what occurs in Russia and China at the hands of dictators and wannabe dictators.....
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You're pulling a Gish gallop, bravs.

Did President Obama Really Purge the Military?

There are actually two lists that have been going around, one of nine officers and the other of over 200 supposedly fired by President Obama during his entire presidency. Any list of 200 people falls squarely in the Gish Gallop category, so we’re going to put that aside for now and just focus on the list of nine. Contrary to the allegations that the firings were covered up, I easily found information on each one from a mainstream news site.

Major General Michael Carey – As commander of the US land-based nuclear missile program, Carey was responsible for three units of ICBMs. He was relieved in October 2013 for his conduct on a July trip to Moscow, where he went on what news reports called a “drunken bender,” fraternized with local women and made inappropriate comments disparaging the Russian military. As a result, he was reassigned and made Special Assistant to the Commander of Air Force Space Command in Colorado.
Vice Admiral Tim Giardina – Giardina served as chief of staff of the US Pacific Fleet and was the number 2 officer of US Strategic Command (StratCom) until being relieved of duty in September 2013, following an investigation into his use of fake casino chips in a poker game. This is a class D felony in Iowa, where StratCom is located. He was already due to leave StratCom, and his bio currently lists him as “assigned to the staff of the vice chief of naval operations.”
Lieutenant General David Holmes Huntoon, Jr. – Huntoon was serving as the Superintendent of the United States Military Academy in West Point until June 2013, when a report of an Inspector General’s office investigation was released, which found that he had misused his position and forced subordinate officers to perform personal tasks. Huntoon was given a letter of reprimand, allowed to resign from his post and took his mandatory retirement the next month.
Major General C.M.M. Gurganus – This was one of two generals asked to retire early by the Commandant of the Marine Corps after a September 2012 Taliban surprise attack on a Marine airbase. Gurganus was found to have “not taken adequate force protection measures” at Camp Bastion, which led to the death of two Marines and the destruction of six Harrier jet fighters.
Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant – Sturdevant was the other general asked to retire in the wake of the Camp Bastion attack.
Brigadier General Bryan Roberts – The former commanding officer of Fort Jackson, the largest training post in the US Army, Roberts was suspended in May 2013 after an investigation into adultery and a physical altercation with a woman described as his mistress. Adultery in the military is punishable as an action that can bring discredit upon the armed forces.
Major General Ralph Baker – Baker was removed from his post as commanding officer of Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, as well as fined, after an administrative hearing into alcohol abuse and sexual misconduct charges in April 2013.
Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette – Gaouette held the position of commanding officer of Carrier Strike Group Three until a reprimand from the US Navy led to his removal. He was found to have used profanity in public and made several racially insensitive remarks. The origin of the complaint might have come from the captain of the aircraft carrier assigned to the Strike Group, who alleged Gaouette had humiliated him in public.
General Carter F. Ham – The commander of US Command Africa, Ham retired in the wake of the September 2011 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Though the attack itself generated enormous controversy and blame on the Obama administration, Ham himself was never reprimanded and served the entirety of his two-year posting in Africa, retiring as scheduled at age 62, after a 40 year career.

Obviously, the context of these nine “firings” puts the entire validity of the list into question. Many were removed for misconduct or violation of military protocol. Several were near or at the Army’s mandatory retirement age of 62. None were simply sacked willy nilly by President Obama. More than a conspiracy or purge, it speaks to a renewed lack of tolerance for behavior among senior officers that brings disgrace or embarrassment on the military as a whole.

The longer list comprises 200 names over the entire armed forces, from admirals and generals to individual ship commanders. It’s full of names, but no information as to why they were removed from their posts. As such, we can only look at it as a Gish Gallop, designed to overwhelm the reader with bits of data that are devoid of context. It’s also important to point out that military officers retire early, are reassigned or get removed from command all the time. It happens for numerous reasons, no matter who the president happens to be.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/03/24/president-obama-purge-military/
 
Milagro said:
People today especially millenials are inclined to view Hi Chi Minh as a benevolent father figure when in fact he was a ruthless bloodthirsty dictator. Nobody in Saigon, especially from my daughter in law's generation has a good word to say about him. Americans are welcome in Vietnam now, all the people want to do now is make money and improve their lives. You should read this article by Max Hastings, he is a man who really knows about that war.

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You should read Stanley Karnow's Vietnam a History. It's very even handed paints all the principals fairly and not in a pro-American light. Vietnam the 10,000 day war by Canadian Michael Maclear is also an excellent read and the documentary based on it is one of the best war docs ever made.
 
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You're pulling a Gish gallop, bravs.

Did President Obama Really Purge the Military?

There are actually two lists that have been going around, one of nine officers and the other of over 200 supposedly fired by President Obama during his entire presidency. Any list of 200 people falls squarely in the Gish Gallop category, so we’re going to put that aside for now and just focus on the list of nine. Contrary to the allegations that the firings were covered up, I easily found information on each one from a mainstream news site.

Major General Michael Carey – As commander of the US land-based nuclear missile program, Carey was responsible for three units of ICBMs. He was relieved in October 2013 for his conduct on a July trip to Moscow, where he went on what news reports called a “drunken bender,” fraternized with local women and made inappropriate comments disparaging the Russian military. As a result, he was reassigned and made Special Assistant to the Commander of Air Force Space Command in Colorado.
Vice Admiral Tim Giardina – Giardina served as chief of staff of the US Pacific Fleet and was the number 2 officer of US Strategic Command (StratCom) until being relieved of duty in September 2013, following an investigation into his use of fake casino chips in a poker game. This is a class D felony in Iowa, where StratCom is located. He was already due to leave StratCom, and his bio currently lists him as “assigned to the staff of the vice chief of naval operations.”
Lieutenant General David Holmes Huntoon, Jr. – Huntoon was serving as the Superintendent of the United States Military Academy in West Point until June 2013, when a report of an Inspector General’s office investigation was released, which found that he had misused his position and forced subordinate officers to perform personal tasks. Huntoon was given a letter of reprimand, allowed to resign from his post and took his mandatory retirement the next month.
Major General C.M.M. Gurganus – This was one of two generals asked to retire early by the Commandant of the Marine Corps after a September 2012 Taliban surprise attack on a Marine airbase. Gurganus was found to have “not taken adequate force protection measures” at Camp Bastion, which led to the death of two Marines and the destruction of six Harrier jet fighters.
Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant – Sturdevant was the other general asked to retire in the wake of the Camp Bastion attack.
Brigadier General Bryan Roberts – The former commanding officer of Fort Jackson, the largest training post in the US Army, Roberts was suspended in May 2013 after an investigation into adultery and a physical altercation with a woman described as his mistress. Adultery in the military is punishable as an action that can bring discredit upon the armed forces.
Major General Ralph Baker – Baker was removed from his post as commanding officer of Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, as well as fined, after an administrative hearing into alcohol abuse and sexual misconduct charges in April 2013.
Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette – Gaouette held the position of commanding officer of Carrier Strike Group Three until a reprimand from the US Navy led to his removal. He was found to have used profanity in public and made several racially insensitive remarks. The origin of the complaint might have come from the captain of the aircraft carrier assigned to the Strike Group, who alleged Gaouette had humiliated him in public.
General Carter F. Ham – The commander of US Command Africa, Ham retired in the wake of the September 2011 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Though the attack itself generated enormous controversy and blame on the Obama administration, Ham himself was never reprimanded and served the entirety of his two-year posting in Africa, retiring as scheduled at age 62, after a 40 year career.

Obviously, the context of these nine “firings” puts the entire validity of the list into question. Many were removed for misconduct or violation of military protocol. Several were near or at the Army’s mandatory retirement age of 62. None were simply sacked willy nilly by President Obama. More than a conspiracy or purge, it speaks to a renewed lack of tolerance for behavior among senior officers that brings disgrace or embarrassment on the military as a whole.

The longer list comprises 200 names over the entire armed forces, from admirals and generals to individual ship commanders. It’s full of names, but no information as to why they were removed from their posts. As such, we can only look at it as a Gish Gallop, designed to overwhelm the reader with bits of data that are devoid of context. It’s also important to point out that military officers retire early, are reassigned or get removed from command all the time. It happens for numerous reasons, no matter who the president happens to be.

https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/03/24/president-obama-purge-military/
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As usual, it turns out what we REALLY have is a group of petulant Righties desperately searching for another scandal they can use to attack Hillary.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
As usual, it turns out what we REALLY have is a group of petulant Righties desperately searching for another scandal they can use to attack Hillary.
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Of course righties think the generals should get a pass no matter what they did to deserve their firings or forced retirement. Look at some of the reasons: adultery, alcohol abuse, sexual misconduct, fighting and racism.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
you know for me that's a truly ironic statement. I was 12 when Nixon had Kissinger announce that "peace was just around the corner." In Vietnam and that he had a secret plan to end the war. It not only turned the election in his favor it was the most bald faced lie a politician ever told this nation cause Nixon was secretly expanding the bombing in North Vietnam and into Cambodia and Laos.

Anyone who believes Trump has a secret plan for ISIS is a moron.
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Would you have rather Nixon telegraphed a plan to never put boots on the ground?
 
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