Trump's RNC takeover "will set the party up for another string of defeats"

So you say, however the results of the program cannot be argued.

The end of seniors dying sick and broke.

This is a dumb and unproveable lie. But I find the moronic notion that without BIG Government, people will get sick and die. Whereas, BIG Government mismanagement guarantees you will get sick and die.

Affordable Prescription drugs.

Affordable to whom? Certainly not the taxpayers footing the bill. Dunce.

Also, life expectancy increased.

That has NOTHING to do with SS or Medicare dolt. God you're a dunce.

All of those are objectively good,

Only good if you are an uneducated simple-minded dolt who idolizes BIG Government malfeasance.

your misreading and misinterpretation of the Constitution notwithstanding.

What part did I misread or misinterpret? Is Social Security and Medicare written into the Constitution? Where?

Is the Department of Agriculture, Education, Transportation, HHS written into the Constitution? I think the document is quite clear about the role of the Federal Government. Defend the nation, administer its laws and copyrights and patents.

ALL others are left to the States. After all, we are a Democratic Repulic of States with States rights and not a mere democracy with mob rule.
 
In fact, reducing Government dependency, government overreach, government spending and putting more into the pockets of taxpayers is a very successful formula that worked all the way up and until Roosevelt turned us into a Socialist BIG Government welfare state. .

OK except that the result of those policies was a spike in household debt and a decline of the personal savings rate:

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How is that objectively good?
 
Ok, so you have no objective examples for why you think Medicare isn't a success, and the one you kinda came up with isn't even really true since Medicare isn't bankrupting the government because it's pay-go.

You do know what pay-go means, right? Or are you like every Conservative ever and are just the biggest fucking dumbass?

Okay so you don't care about any arguments to the contrary, you're going to continue to pound your tiny fists into the table and demand Government dependency. That's pathetic and severely stupid.
 
Then how? Show us an example of an objective good that your shitty policies have ever produced.

Not vibes, not feelings, OBJECTIVE TRUTHS.

What is it about self-sufficiency, liberty and freedom you find so abhorrent? My argument is that our founders had it right. A highly educated public with the liberty to pursue their dream unfettered by Government intrusion with property rights will prosper far better than one that is dependent on Government spending, rules and mandates.

Do you have any examples where Big Government dependency has good outcomes?
 
Something for uneducated miscreants like you to ponder; Government dependency never helped anyone. Governments have never SPENT their way to societal utopia.

OMG you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Your assignment was to prove, using objective truths, that Medicare is not a government success story OR that any of your shitty policies have produced any objective goods.

All you can do is argue in subjective opinions because you're a Conservative and you're the biggest, dumbest fucking moron until the next one comes along.
 
You can keep repeating the same dumb lie over and over again, it's still a dumb lie.

Your tax cuts and spending cuts have never made the country an objectively better place; there's just nothing to show there. You have NOTHING to show for your tax cuts except for these nebulous feelings you have around your opinion of things.

Remember, you're a fucking idiot...so it's not like you know what you're even saying.

I'd bet $1 that you're on Medicare and/or SS RIGHT NOW.
 
Social Security. Another massive government failure that does anything BUT provide for "security" in retirement and is bankrupted as well. .

Provide for security in retirement = objectively good thing.

And if you're concerned it's "bankrupt", then merely lift the cap on taxable SS income!

Problem solved!
 
OK except that the result of those policies was a spike in household debt and a decline of the personal savings rate:

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How is that objectively good?

Using dated unobjective charts don't make a very good argument. Personal savings spiked to 32% in April 2020. It's dropped significantly during Biden's tenure. Another glaring example of the failure of leftist policies.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PSAVERT

The same goes for Household debt. It was stable until Biden got into office. Now it is spiking upward.

https://www.newyorkfed.org/microeconomics/hhdc.html
 
My advice to low IQ miscreants like you who are enamored by Government managed care is do not rely on it when you retire. You will be terribly disappointed.

Thing is that all Medicare does is reimburse providers from the pool of revenue from the payroll taxes.

Medicare employs about as many doctors as almost every insurance company does...which is to say, none (except for Kaiser).

So, you have not once mentioned anything Conservatives have done that has made the country an objectively better place.

And you never will, because Conservatism never has.
 
Revenues increased as a result of the cuts

Incorrect. Completely fucking incorrect. We'll even look at the last one you morons did to prove just how incorrect you are:

Actual receipts as reported by Treasury.

The Russia Tax Cut started 1/2/18. Here's how it depressed revenue:

Receipts
Jan-2017: $344,069
Feb-2017: $171,713
Mar-2017: $216,584
Apr-2017: $455,605
May-2017: $240,418
Jun-2017: $388,660
Jul-2017: $232,040
Aug-2017: $226,311
Sep-2017: $348,722
Oct-2017: $235,341
Nov-2017: $208,374
Dec-2017: $325,797
Total-2017: $3,393,634

Receipts
Jan-2018: $361,038
Feb-2018: $155,623
Mar-2018: $210,832
Apr-2018: $510,447
May-2018: $217,075
Jun-2018: $316,278
Jul-2018: $225,266
Aug-2018: $219,115
Sep-2018: $343,559
Oct-2018: $252,692
Nov-2018: $205,961
Dec-2018: $312,584
Total-2018: $3,330,470
-$63,164 from previous year

Receipts
Jan-2019: $339,980
Feb-2019: $167,265
Mar-2019: $228,811
Apr-2019: $535,545
May-2019: $232,064
Jun-2019: $333,952
Jul-2019: $251,348
Aug-2019: $227,965
Sep-2019: $374,028
Oct-2019: $245,520
Nov-2019: $225,185
Dec-2019: $335,805
Total-2019: $3,497,468

+103,834 from 2017, a 3% gain

Inflation from 2017 to 2019 was 4.3%

So the net loss is about -1.3% from two years of tax cuts.

The tax cut didn't increase revenue.
 
Another dumb MSNBC lie. But alas, you're a dummy who thinks BIG Government dependency is awesome. You'll never amount to much of anything with your mindset.

Right, like I said...when it comes to objective truths, that's where you always come up short.

Everything with you is emotional, and the only emotion you know is anger. You're just too fucking stupid to know any other one.

I asked you for you to come up with something Conservatives did on their own that made the country an objectively better place...the only things you told me made the country an objectively worse place, and I proved it using actual receipts from Treasury, and actual data showing the decline of the savings rate and the increase in household debt.

All your policies do is fucking fail, and your attempts to defend those failures by pretending Medicare is a failure is just another fucking fail.

You morons have never done anything that made the country an objectively better place.
 
Provide for security in retirement = objectively good thing.

You are obviously misguided and not retired yet. If you believe that all the money you paid into the failed system is going to be there when you retire, you're misguided.

If you believe that you can live off of SS retirement, you will be sadly disappointed.

And if you're concerned it's "bankrupt", then merely lift the cap on taxable SS income!

Problem solved!

That is the typical misguided perception leftist halfwits have, that money can solve mismanagement and poorly thought-out programs. But history shows that that thinking is dumb and uneducated.

A better solution is abandoning this Government Ponzi Scheme and giving citizens an incentive to save into REAL retirement plans.

SS is not yours. They will only pay you while you are alive and over the age of 65. It doesn't flow to your children or heirs. The amount it increases is subject to COLAs and not market valuations.

The money you pay into the plan does not go into an account to you, instead, they use that money to fund their deficits and give us an IOU that has interest that YOU, the taxpayer, are forced to pay back.

It's quite the scheme. And if you or I tried to do a Retirment plan similarly, we would be arrested for fraud. Ponzi schemes are illegal only if the Government is not the doing it.
 
Right, like I said...when it comes to objective truths, that's where you always come up short.

Everything with you is emotional, and the only emotion you know is anger. You're just too fucking stupid to know any other one.

I asked you for you to come up with something Conservatives did on their own that made the country an objectively better place...the only things you told me made the country an objectively worse place, and I proved it using actual receipts from Treasury, and actual data showing the decline of the savings rate and the increase in household debt.

All your policies do is fucking fail, and your attempts to defend those failures by pretending Medicare is a failure is just another fucking fail.

You morons have never done anything that made the country an objectively better place.

Triggered projection. I can't say I am surprised. Your eyes, ears and mind are too tightly closed to comprehend facts or reality.
 
That massive spending bill has done nothing but create massive inflation and made everyone poorer without much to show for it.

We have the lowest inflation rate in the western world, what the fuck are you talking about?

You must not have got the memo from Nazi HQ that the economy is doing extremely well right now, and people are giving Biden credit for it. The "inflation" talking point has been lost. No one cares.

And BTW - everyone now knows that what caused inflation was corporate greed:

Research by the Federal Reserve found that corporate profits contributed a large percentage to inflation in the first year of the pandemic, including accounting for all the inflation from July 2020 through July 2021 and 41 percent of all inflation from July 2020 through July 2022.
https://www.casey.senate.gov/news/r...t-exposing-big-corporations-for-price-gouging
 
Yet willful low IQ lemmings like you think spending us deeper into debt is an awesome idea as laong as BIG Government sends you a check.

All government debt is is a scorecard of spending...so we've spent X amount of dollars but we have things to show for it...like Medicare, or Social Security, or Interstates, or our military.

Spending gets us actual, tangible things that produce tangible, quantifiable results. Like, for example, getting health insurance to 30M people who didn't previously have it.

Tax cuts, on the other hand...well, we don't have anything to show for them. Not increased revenue. Not more jobs. Not anything.

When someone asks what do we have to show for tax cuts, and your answer is not something tangible, then that means there is nothing there. So then it becomes a question of since there's nothing there, why do them at all?

You haven't proven anything you've said on this thread with objective truths. Just your feelings. Your very emotional feelings.
 
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