Trump’s presidency is doomed

signalmankenneth

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Whether he knows it or not, the specter of Lyndon Baines Johnson haunts Donald John Trump. There are some jarring similarities — two big, fleshy men given to vulgarities and gauche behavior, boastful, thin-skinned, politically amoral, vengeful, unforgiving and, most important, considered illegitimate presidents.

For Johnson, that took some time to sink in; Trump is already there.

Johnson ascended to the presidency upon the death of John F. Kennedy and then won election in a landslide over Barry Goldwater. Nevertheless, an air of illegitimacy clung to him like an odor. It thickened as opposition to the Vietnam War became more and more furious and it peaked, in my estimation, with a hoax in 1967 by Paul Krassner in the counterculture magazine the Realist. Tongue in cheek, it reported that Johnson had climbed into Kennedy’s casket and there done unspeakable things. The story was abominable, tasteless and deserved any other insult you could throw at it, but some people believed it. I know. I heard it.

[Just when you thought the Trump ethics disaster couldn’t get worse, it did]
Jump now a half-century to the recent stories relating to Trump and alleged shenanigans in Russia at a time not all that distant. The accounts, unverified and as revolting as any concocted about Johnson, had a currency that can be explained only by Trump’s own behavior — a persona that seems so self-indulgent, so juvenile, that almost any sort of behavior seems credible. Trump called the report fake news and, as always, blamed the messenger (the media, the intelligence community, etc.), but he ought to have looked in the mirror and wondered why he looks so ugly to so many people.

Krassner is an obscure 1960s figure; Rep. John Lewis is not. The Georgia Democrat said the other day that Trump’s presidency was illegitimate and he would not, as an invited member of Congress, attend the inauguration. Trump, of course, tweeted a disparagement. As he did when he belittled John McCain’s heroism under torture, Trump said Lewis was “all talk” and “no action.”

Lewis is one of the last of the great civil rights-era heroes. He marched. He protested. He had his head cracked at the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Ala. It was 1965 and the Alabama police nearly beat him to death. He is a man of immense courage and morality, so much greater than Trump in those respects.
Yes, Trump won in the electoral college, and that, alas, is all that matters. But on the larger point, Lewis is right. Trump conducted a dirty, dishonest campaign that sullied the very presidency he won. He questioned Barack Obama’s legitimacy, trafficked in racism and demagoguery, and seems to have had poll workers in far-off Moscow. Still, he’ll be the president.

But Trump ought to pay attention to Lewis and what he represents. The president-elect will take the oath with a minority of the popular vote — a substantial deficit of almost 3 million votes. He enters the Oval Office with historically dismal poll numbers, lower now than right after he won the election. He has done nothing to woo the majority of Americans who rejected his candidacy and has, instead, adhered to his schoolyard habit of tweeting his every grievance, denigrating his every critic, making cameos with vaccine and global-warming doubters and, as if to show some versatility, rascals such as Don King and Kanye West. It is a “Gong Show” with no gong in sight.

[Trump is a legitimate president. But we need to know how he won.]
Lyndon Johnson would no doubt warn Trump that he is already on thin ice and he will plunge through it the moment Congress takes the measure of his unpopularity. Johnson was a man of huge political abilities and experience, and his achievements in civil rights entitled him to greatness. Yet, when Vietnam went sour, so did the public, and it seemed, after a while, that his personal characteristics, scathingly caricatured by artists such as David Levine and Jules Feiffer, oozed out of him so that they obscured both him and his accomplishments. He was deemed capable of anything — of lying and perversion of all kinds. This is where Trump stands now.

By the end of the week, Trump will be the president. I wish him the best; I wish him the worst. The dilemma is how to separate loathing for him from love of country. I am leaving it to time to work that out. Meanwhile, Trump will have his moment, that’s for sure, but when things go wrong he will be chased from office — just like Johnson once was. The ancient Greeks knew why: A man’s character is his fate. In that case, Trump’s presidency is doomed.

By Richard Cohen


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Trump is doing everything he talked about doing in his campaign. The things that won him the election. Looks like he meant them.
 
There is talk on Twitter that he is seething over the crowd sizes. His staff is trying to insulate him from criticism and to keep him from tweeting but both are fruitless.
 
Trump's presidency is doomed for a hell of a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with LBJ.

There has GOT to be some very ugly, stinky, nasty dirt on a guy like him lying around that has yet to be uncovered.

Every day carries with it the potential for screaming headlines of BREAKING NEWS!!!! about something in his sordid past.

Something to look forward to!!!!
 
Trump Derangement Syndrome at work...we know he's illegitimate because Michael Moore and John Lewis say so.. :palm:
 
Trump Derangement Syndrome at work...we know he's illegitimate because Michael Moore and John Lewis say so.. :palm:

No, we know he's illegitimate because unlike you, we see him clearly and for what he is, not through some Hillary-hate inspired fog like you do.
 
There has GOT to be some very ugly, stinky, nasty dirt on a guy like him lying around that has yet to be uncovered.

Every day carries with it the potential for screaming headlines of BREAKING NEWS!!!! about something in his sordid past.

Something to look forward to!!!!

ABSOLUTELY

Most likely he's the most investigated man in the world now, as well as the most hated, most rejected.

A con man like him has to have a lot of enemies chomping at the bit to expose what they know, and a some looking to get paid for what they know.

Politics hasn't been this exciting in many years. :0)
 
was he born in kenya? fake birth certificate? and michael moore? really?

the left has absolutely lost their minds

The Right has lost their minds if they think Trump should be treated with any modicum of dignity or respect.

Feel free to call him your legitimate POTUS if you choose.
 
The Right has lost their minds if they think Trump should be treated with any modicum of dignity or respect.
no doubt, but the left looks immensely hypocritical for doing it while calling everyone that disrespected or criticized obama as racist.

Feel free to call him your legitimate POTUS if you choose.
I voted for johnson, if you'll recall, but at the present time Donald Trump is OUR legitimate president,
 
no doubt, but the left looks immensely hypocritical for doing it while calling everyone that disrespected or criticized obama as racist.

I voted for johnson, if you'll recall, but at the present time Donald Trump is OUR legitimate president,
He is our electorally elected president, he isn't the choice of the people.
 
No, we know he's illegitimate because unlike you, we see him clearly and for what he is, not through some Hillary-hate inspired fog like you do.
ridiculous. as stupid as Lewis calling him "illegitimate"- he's a freaking Congressperson-
at least Moore is talking ( thru his ass) as private citizen
 
no doubt, but the left looks immensely hypocritical for doing it while calling everyone that disrespected or criticized obama as racist.

Most were racist .. as you know.

The Left looks like they've grown some balls by using the same tactics the Right did with Obama and his family. The difference is the Right was attacking a well-educated man with a history and experience in politics, and who exhibited class and dignity from the start of his campaign to the day he left office. He came with an equally well-educated wife who fit the mold of class and education as First Lady.

Democrats are attacking a clownish LYING loud-mouth celebrity with no experience in governance and with an uneducated euroslut wife who has her pussy plastered all over the planet .. nothing like any First Lady in our history.

I voted for johnson, if you'll recall, but at the present time Donald Trump is OUR legitimate president,

I do recall your Johnson vote. But irrespective of what it sayd on paper, I CHOOSE never to recognize Trump as the legitimate POTUS. I join millions who've made that choice.

How long do you think it will take for republicans to abandon Trump .. whom they've never liked anyway?
 
Most were racist .. as you know.
that is nothing more than pure conjecture, for example I was labeled a racist and a rightwinger everytime I criticized an Obama policy or a leftist policy, of which I am neither. which proves that most lefties are quite happy to make broad sweeping generalizations when it suits them.

The Left looks like they've grown some balls by using the same tactics the Right did with Obama and his family. The difference is the Right was attacking a well-educated man with a history and experience in politics, and who exhibited class and dignity from the start of his campaign to the day he left office. He came with an equally well-educated wife who fit the mold of class and education as First Lady.

Democrats are attacking a clownish LYING loud-mouth celebrity with no experience in governance and with an uneducated euroslut wife who has her pussy plastered all over the planet .. nothing like any First Lady in our history.
it could also be said that the left is just stooping lower than the righties that they called racist and redneck dumbasses.

I do recall your Johnson vote. But irrespective of what it sayd on paper, I CHOOSE never to recognize Trump as the legitimate POTUS. I join millions who've made that choice.
and all that means is millions of you are choosing to ignore reality.

How long do you think it will take for republicans to abandon Trump .. whom they've never liked anyway?
I imagine that they'll probably do it within the first year, year and a half. long enough to do for him what they believe is conservative, then abandon him in time to campaign for the mid term elections. just like most establishment politicians. then again, trump seems to be falling right in to the establishment mold, just like i said he would, and they may support him more than ever.
 
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