Trumps Personality, a response to thing1

Delirium Tremens said:
have to make this thread because thing1 threadbans me from an honest discussion which is really weaksauce. I never troll when people ask honest and sincere questions. What is wrong with you thing1?



Here is the thing thing1, the reason you are a bit flummoxed is because you have been living in an alternate reality. You may say I am using hyperbole here, but I mean that in a very literal way. Your view of reality and America in general was mis-aligned, so your baseline is off.

First, the reason why so many people like trump is because he is a winner. That's what a lot of it boils down to. People keep saying he can't do x y and z and he proves them wrong time and time again. He isn't a serious candidate. He can't get the nom. He can't win the general.

Lets look at what trump was up against. He was up against 16 other repubicans, many who had huge establishment backing and large coffers. Jeb had 100 million, and he drained every penny of it. Trump made jeb look like a bitch. He steamrolled the GOP establishment. Then he had to face an insurgent movement from his own party with Romney... the literal former GOP nominee trashing him and starting the nevertrump movement. He outlasted that. Then people called his convention a disaster, they called his comments about mccain not being a war hero a disaster, they called his treatment of the khans a disaster, they called him eating a taco bowl a disaster. They called his comments about megyn kelly and rosie o donnel a disaster. Trump kept winning.

Then as we know, it was impossible for him to win the general. Hillary spent a billion dollars to take him down. She MASSIVELY outspent him, something people forget to mention (I don't have the numbers on hand).. and instead he flips states that haven't been red in almost 3 decades. (No one gives a shit about commie-fornia).

The other reason he appeals to people is he is changing the dialogue of america. He is smashing p.c. culture. We have had so much SJW bullshit for the last couple of years, it's very refreshing to take all that stuff down a notch... if you have the literal president of the united states grabbing pusssy, telling it like it is, you cannot say "America is not like this", or "America doesn't stand for that. And that's what a lot of your confusion boils down to.



I have noticed that you have seemed like you are actually take the time for some legitimate introspection these days. You really have a desire for understanding, a wonder of what went wrong and what you missed. I commend you for that.

Here is the thing, when 60 million voters vote for somebody, when nearly 50% of the electorate votes for someone like trump, you can't pretend he is some massively outside the mainstream figure. You cannot marginalize him in that way. He represents the wishes of half the electorate. What you thought of as a baseline for normalcy was mis-aligned, and that's what is ultimately throwing you for a loop.

It's ok to call elizabeth warren pocahauntus. It is perfectly fine to like to grab some pussy when you are a star (as all the women want you to). This is normal. This is our actual, true reality, and you are living in it. Adjust accordingly and like focusing a lens, everything will become sharper to you.

In conclusion, I think a lot of liberals are prisoners of their own rhetoric. If you go back and look from 2008, people were calling mccain the next hitler. Then they called romney the next hitler. Then they did the same thing to trump. The only difference is trump won, so now liberals are stuck. While I don't think trump is going to be this awesome president, I do think your fears are almost entirely unfounded, baseless, and boy cried wolf syndrome. How many times do you get to call a GOP candidate hitler before no one listens to you anymore?

Trump has swagger, he is a populist, he keeps winning, and he grabs pussy. America finds that very appealing.
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McCain and Romney were never going to be the next Hitler. If the election were Romney vs. Trump I would cast a vote for Romney without a second thought. I'd vote for any American besides Trump. You're just a stupid fascist, like all Libertarians. That is the ultimate root of libertarian ideology, the same social darwinism that's at the core of Nazi ideology. It wasn't the foaming at the mouth anti-semites that put Hitler into power either, it was the middle class, it was the right wing liberals (the libertarians), it was the stupid weak liberals who were scaaarrrreeedd of a little socialism, it was the conservatives. They all caved in the end. And they all got what they deserved - a bullet in the brain. That is the fate of fascists.

The greatest generation went to europe to kill fascists and keep the out of America, the worst generation bent over and voted them into office. I can't wait for the boomers to die.
 
Threedee said:
Trump wasn't a serious candidate. He ran just for the sake of running; to be in the spotlight on the largest wreality stage. He ran in the GOP primary, even though he is lifelong Democrat and leftist. He behaved in a manner that a party with actual principles would disavow, but, only establishment types, such as myself, had the character to denounce his antics. Populists have never had principles, or character, so he naturally appealed to a lot of voters. When he finally gets the opportunity to propose single-payer socialized healthcare, he will still not be denounced by these people.
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The problem is populism. What damage have left-wing populists ever done? None. They are perfectly tolerable. It is right-wing populism that is the single most cancerous ideology the human race has ever seen. And I mean to see it wiped off the face of the Earth in my lifetime. The only problem I have with Stalin is that he didn't kill enough fascists.
 
anatta said:
I have used the exact same phrase in comments with you -and it's exactly the reason I voted for him. I suspect many more feel the same. This isn't working -"roll the dice"

Trump's message resonates. The Chinese are eating our lunch and eyeing our dinner,and our "leaders"are a bunch of globalists
who sell us out on some weird etherial non-existent concept of Free Trade ( while others protect their market)

Add in the fact HRClinton was thoroughly disgusting/out of touch/messageless/ ( i could go on) -and it was
"what have I got to lose?" as Trump himself said to the black community. 1/2 of all America felt the same
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Why are you promoting senseless aggression against China just because they're rising? Do they have a responsibility to remain poor so that you don't feel as much economic competition? What is good for a developing economy is not necessarily what is good for a developed economy. And you don't see China subsidizing inefficient, dinosaur, dying sectors of its economy either. They are subsidizing the future. You want to subsidize the past. It's economic retardation.
 
NBC-TV News January 10, 2017 6:30PM/ET reports President Obama's popularity is at a 7 year high.

His Chicago speech this evening was "interesting", but too long.
 
anatta said:
so caucusing is different for voting in the general? which Repub did you like?
Rubio is a neo-con/Jeb Bush wasn't up to it..non of them thrilled me..

I went for Bernie in the primary being a registered Dem,and would have gone for him in the general too.
But the Dems put up a corrupted/warmongering/corporatist/big donor/serial liar -who can vote for that???

So screw it..try something different. My point is that ALL sucked -and all things being considered, try somebody out of politics.
He's got some good idea on regulations/tax reform/immigration/federalism..see how it goes
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And assuming that the GOP nominee didn't cause the Dems to nominate someone else, you would have voted for it over the evil Crooked Hillary. I was for Rand Paul for the five minutes that he was in the race.
 
NUKE MOSCOW said:
Why are you promoting senseless aggression against China just because they're rising? Do they have a responsibility to remain poor so that you don't feel as much economic competition? What is good for a developing economy is not necessarily what is good for a developed economy. And you don't see China subsidizing inefficient, dinosaur, dying sectors of its economy either. They are subsidizing the future. You want to subsidize the past. It's economic retardation.
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The Chinese Communist Party should disband and uninstall the current government of the PRC. Then the rightful government of the ROC can replace it, unifying the two Chinas. No one would worry about the resulting economic expansion of China, then.
 
NUKE MOSCOW said:
Why are you promoting senseless aggression against China just because they're rising? Do they have a responsibility to remain poor so that you don't feel as much economic competition? What is good for a developing economy is not necessarily what is good for a developed economy. And you don't see China subsidizing inefficient, dinosaur, dying sectors of its economy either. They are subsidizing the future. You want to subsidize the past. It's economic retardation.
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chinese hegemony -land and sea
 
Threedee said:
And assuming that the GOP nominee didn't cause the Dems to nominate someone else, you would have voted for it over the evil Crooked Hillary. I was for Rand Paul for the five minutes that he was in the race.
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ABC=anybody but Hillary was the number 1 objective
 
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