Trump's foreign policy speech

Anyone catch this thing?

What a mess. This is such a surreal year. There is no way, no how that someone like Trump should ever get near the Presidency.

It was full of all kinds of contradictions and generalizations, and - as usual - lacking in specifics. It relied instead on the usual "(insert foreign policy issue here) is going to be solved, and quickly...believe me."

And his whole thing about having a secret plan to defeat ISIS, and how we shouldn't reveal that stuff and should be "unpredictable"? It's bull, for anyone who is buying it. You don't give away specific battle plans or covert operations, obviously. Broad strategy? You HAVE to talk about that. The American people and our allies have every right to know what your plans are.

The emperor, as usual, has no clothes.
 
Anyone catch this thing?

What a mess. This is such a surreal year. There is no way, no how that someone like Trump should ever get near the Presidency.

It was full of all kinds of contradictions and generalizations, and - as usual - lacking in specifics. It relied instead on the usual "(insert foreign policy issue here) is going to be solved, and quickly...believe me."

And his whole thing about having a secret plan to defeat ISIS, and how we shouldn't reveal that stuff and should be "unpredictable"? It's bull, for anyone who is buying it. You don't give away specific battle plans or covert operations, obviously. Broad strategy? You HAVE to talk about that. The American people and our allies have every right to know what your plans are.

The emperor, as usual, has no clothes.

Reminds me of Nixon's "I have a plan" Vietnam war strategy speech where he claimed he couldn't reveal such a secret thing as what the "plan" was.
 
Anyone catch this thing?

What a mess. This is such a surreal year. There is no way, no how that someone like Trump should ever get near the Presidency.

It was full of all kinds of contradictions and generalizations, and - as usual - lacking in specifics. It relied instead on the usual "(insert foreign policy issue here) is going to be solved, and quickly...believe me."

And his whole thing about having a secret plan to defeat ISIS, and how we shouldn't reveal that stuff and should be "unpredictable"? It's bull, for anyone who is buying it. You don't give away specific battle plans or covert operations, obviously. Broad strategy? You HAVE to talk about that. The American people and our allies have every right to know what your plans are.

The emperor, as usual, has no clothes.

I haven't heard it, but now I have got to hear it.
 
I'll need to read it.. I'm not fan of threatening our NATO partners for not paying their "fair share".

I'm too bleary eyed to go thru it tonight,.
 
i actually thought it was a revolutionary speech compared to the way we do things now.

"when the other side knows your not willing to walk it becomes impossible to win"

This one line completely explains the failure of the Obama and Bush administrations to get Nato to pay their fair share and get the US better deals in trade and other matters.
 
Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.[1]

Another Republican billionaire.
 
Anyone catch this thing?

What a mess. This is such a surreal year. There is no way, no how that someone like Trump should ever get near the Presidency.

It was full of all kinds of contradictions and generalizations, and - as usual - lacking in specifics. It relied instead on the usual "(insert foreign policy issue here) is going to be solved, and quickly...believe me."

And his whole thing about having a secret plan to defeat ISIS, and how we shouldn't reveal that stuff and should be "unpredictable"? It's bull, for anyone who is buying it. You don't give away specific battle plans or covert operations, obviously. Broad strategy? You HAVE to talk about that. The American people and our allies have every right to know what your plans are.

The emperor, as usual, has no clothes.

I don't know, if you have a plan for defeating ISIS why should you let them in on it lol? Why let them in on timetables for our actions? And we should have learned under Obama about the downside of being predictable. Like predictably not following through on a red line or predictably kowtowing to Iran.

Why shouldn't Japan or other countries pay us for protecting them?
 
I don't know, if you have a plan for defeating ISIS why should you let them in on it lol? Why let them in on timetables for our actions? And we should have learned under Obama about the downside of being predictable. Like predictably not following through on a red line or predictably kowtowing to Iran. Why shouldn't Japan or other countries pay us for protecting them?

Secret Squirrel for president, lol.
 
It was only the second time since the summer that Donald Trump has used a teleprompter. But writing down his thoughts ahead of time didn't make them more accurate.

Trump's speech, billed as his major foreign policy rollout, was riddled with errors and contradictions. Here are four things he got wrong:

Hillary Clinton Didn’t Answer the Call

Trump claimed that then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was unavailable to answer the phone when the Benghazi, Libya, consulate and CIA annex were attacked Sept. 11, 2012. He claimed she chose to "go to sleep" rather than to respond.

Here's part of what he said: "Then, instead of taking charge that night, Hillary Clinton decided to go home and sleep. Incredible. By the way, she was not awake to take that call at 3 o'clock in the morning."

Hours of witness testimony, as well and both independent and congressional reports, directly contradict his suggestion that Clinton was unavailable that day. First, there was no 3 a.m. call. The attacks occurred at 3:42 in that afternoon, ET.

By 6 p.m. ET, the president's national security team had consulted with the State Department and devised a three-pronged military response, which included staging a team in or around Benghazi.

Ultimately, the White House argued, through its military leadership, that no teams outside the country were able to get to Benghazi in time to save lives. That response was heavily criticized, but there is no evidence Clinton was unresponsive. Her own emails, recently released to the public, show that she was awake past 11 p.m. that night.

ISIS Makes Millions From Libyan Oil

In the same breath that he falsely accused Clinton of sleeping through the Benghazi attack, Trump claimed that ISIS is now making millions of dollars off Libyan oil sales. "And now ISIS is making millions and millions of dollars a week selling Libya oil,” Trump said. "And you know what? We don't blockade, we don't bomb, we don't do anything about it. It's almost as if our country doesn't even know what's happening, which could be a fact and could be true."

He has made this false statement before, also in the context of blaming Clinton for destroying Libya. The fact is that ISIS does fund itself through the sale of oil, but not in Libya. The Washington Post did an entire piece on the inaccuracy of that and a similar statement he previously made, concluding ultimately that ISIS has not claimed any oil at all in Libya.

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”I Was Totally Against the War in Iraq”

"Although not in government service, I was totally against the war in Iraq, very proudly, saying for many years that it would destabilize the Middle East,” he said today.

It's true Trump was never in government service, but not true that he was totally against the war in Iraq. Months before the invasion, he was asked about the war on “The Howard Stern Show.” “Are you for invading Iraq?” Stern asked him. Trump answered, “Yeah, I guess so.”

US Allies

Let's call this one a head-scratching contradiction. One of Trump’s main foreign policy talking points has been about NATO, the 28-member alliance founded in 1949. Today, he threatened that during a Trump presidency the United States might disband NATO if other countries didn't start spending more on national defense.

"Only 4 of 28 other member countries besides America, are spending the minimum required 2 percent of GDP on defense,” Trump said (the number is actually five).

"The countries we are defending must pay for the cost of this defense, and if not, the U.S. must be prepared to let these countries defend themselves," he addd. "We have no choice."

Yet just moments later, he talked about the importance of sticking with allies, this time in reference to Israel. "Your friends need to know that you will stick by the agreements that you have with them. You've made that agreement, you have to stand by it and the world will be a better place.”

Later he put it in a way that seemed to directly contradict his threats to NATO. “We've picked fights with our oldest friends, and now they're starting to look elsewhere for help. Remember that. Not good,” he added.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/things-donald-trump-wrong-foreign-policy-speech/story?id=38713352
 
He has made this false statement before, also in the context of blaming Clinton for destroying Libya. The fact is that ISIS does fund itself through the sale of oil, but not in Libya. The Washington Post did an entire piece on the inaccuracy of that and a similar statement he previously made, concluding ultimately that ISIS has not claimed any oil at all in Libya.

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very little oil is being pumped. Down to about 335 thousand bpd / while under Qadaffi it was about 1.6 million bpd.

However Clinton was the chief architect and advocate for the Libyan war which DID allow ISIS to move in ( mostly the Sirte basin, but also in Derna)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html

Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’
and a
Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The secretary
of state was persuasive
. But the ouster
of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi left Libya
a failed state and a terrorist haven.
 
sanders was correct in questioning her judgement. It stinks.

I'll bet Obama kicks himself for appointing her, but he had to throw the Clinton machine a bone, I suppose.

Didn't she "decide to leave" shortly after that? Health reasons?
 
I don't know, if you have a plan for defeating ISIS why should you let them in on it lol? Why let them in on timetables for our actions? And we should have learned under Obama about the downside of being predictable. Like predictably not following through on a red line or predictably kowtowing to Iran.

Why shouldn't Japan or other countries pay us for protecting them?

Again - we're not talking about battle plans or covert ops. We're talking about strategy, and plans where we have to involve allies & that the American people absolutely have a right to know.

He's a child. He doesn't have a "secret plan" to defeat ISIS. Using the "unpredictable" excuse just allows him to get away w/ that.

You make way too many excuses for this buffoon.
 
Again - we're not talking about battle plans or covert ops. We're talking about strategy, and plans where we have to involve allies & that the American people absolutely have a right to know.

He's a child. He doesn't have a "secret plan" to defeat ISIS. Using the "unpredictable" excuse just allows him to get away w/ that.

You make way too many excuses for this buffoon.

He does, lol.

Remember how the GOP howled about having to pass Obamacare to find out what was in it?

Now we apparently have to elect a president to find out what his plans are.

Hilarious, except it's our future.
 
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