TRUMP'S billions needed to buy land, imminent domain, or TAKE! Many vow to fight!

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TRUMP'S billions needed to buy land, imminent domain or TAKE it! Owners vow to fight.

No ONE on the Right talks about this and frankly I wish people on the LEFT would bring it up. OFTEN! This will be a fucking fiasco and it will take YEARS. Trump will be worm food before it is done. UNLESS, the US GOVERNMENT goes in and seizes, "takes" miles after miles of land. Remember people in Arizona and TEXAS are armed to the teeth, right?

Here is just a SAMPLING!

The biggest problem for Trump's border wall isn't money. It's getting the land.


Eminent domain fights could take years.


By Gerald S. Dickinson

Gerald S. Dickinson is an assistant professor of law at the University of Pittsburgh Law School, focusing on constitutional property, state and local government law, land use, affordable housing law and policy and urban development.

March 3, 2017

In 2008, the George W. Bush administration, which had started building about 670 miles of border fencing on mostly federally owned land in Arizona, California and New Mexico under the Secure Fence Act of 2006, tried to seize an acre or so in Cameron County, Tex., that belonged to Eloisa Tamez. Things did not go quickly.

Tamez fought the government in federal court. During seven years of litigation and negotiation, she became famous for resisting the border fence. The government eventually paid her $56,000for a quarter-acre the fence sits on and gave her a code to open a gate so she can access her land to its south.

Imagine this playing out over and over again along the 1,300 miles of borderlands that President Trump wants to wall up. “We will soon begin the construction of a great wall along our southern border,” Trump promised Tuesday night in an address to Congress...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...-its-getting-the-land/?utm_term=.cb7d6d32f1eb


This land is our land: Many property owners won’t sell for Trump’s wall

By Andrew Becker / April 5, 2018

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They are among the nation’s richest people, owning land in some of the most remote – and impoverished – places in the country. They are multigenerational ranchers and recent arrivals, heirs to Fort Knox-like fortunes and the inheritors of fallow dirt patches along America’s southern border.

Fiercely independent, they do have one thing in common: They will take center stage yet again if President Donald Trump moves forward with his promise to wall off the border with Mexico. As such, the question of who owns the border and how they will be compensated looms large. But many owners say they have no intention of giving up their land without a fight.

Over the past two decades, local activist Bill Addington has grown accustomed to battling outsiders treating his far-flung Hudspeth County in West Texas as a massive dumping ground for New York City sewage and a proposed nuclear waste site...

https://www.revealnews.org/article/...ny-property-owners-wont-sell-for-trumps-wall/



Amid immigration debate, feds moving ahead with land seizures for South Texas border wall

At a briefing in McAllen earlier this week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection told a group of South Texas officials the federal government plans to move forward with private land seizures in the Rio Grande Valley to build sections of President Trump’s border wall.

BY KIAH COLLIER JUNE 21, 20183 PM


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The border fence sits atop a levee on the periphery of the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge in Hidalgo County in February 2017. Callie Richmond for The Texas Tribune


As a national debate raged about family separations at the border, U.S. Customs and Border Protection told a group of South Texas officials earlier this week that the federal government plans to move forward with private land seizures in the Rio Grande Valley to build sections of President Donald Trump’s border wall.

“They said that they got the money, they got the authority and they’re going to move on trying to acquire the land,” said U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Laredo Democrat who attended the briefing in McAllen of a few dozen officials from cities, counties and foreign trade zones along the Texas-Mexico border.

Cuellar, who serves on the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security, said land will be seized to build a section of wall that's already been promised funding; on Thursday, the Senate Appropriations Committee passed a spending bill that includes $1.6 billion for about 65 miles of fencing in the Valley...


https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/21/feds-moving-forward-land-seizures-border-wall/




 
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No ONE on the Right talks about this and frankly I wish people on the LEFT would bring it up. OFTEN! This will be a fucking fiasco and it will take YEARS. Trump will be worm food before it is done. UNLESS, the US GOVERNMENT goes in and seizes, "takes" miles after miles of land. Remember people in Arizona and TEXAS are armed to the teeth, right?

Here is just a SAMPLING!

The biggest problem for Trump's border wall isn't money. It's getting the land.


Eminent domain fights could take years.


By Gerald S. Dickinson

Gerald S. Dickinson is an assistant professor of law at the University of Pittsburgh Law School, focusing on constitutional property, state and local government law, land use, affordable housing law and policy and urban development.

March 3, 2017

In 2008, the George W. Bush administration, which had started building about 670 miles of border fencing on mostly federally owned land in Arizona, California and New Mexico under the Secure Fence Act of 2006, tried to seize an acre or so in Cameron County, Tex., that belonged to Eloisa Tamez. Things did not go quickly.

Tamez fought the government in federal court. During seven years of litigation and negotiation, she became famous for resisting the border fence. The government eventually paid her $56,000for a quarter-acre the fence sits on and gave her a code to open a gate so she can access her land to its south.

Imagine this playing out over and over again along the 1,300 miles of borderlands that President Trump wants to wall up. “We will soon begin the construction of a great wall along our southern border,” Trump promised Tuesday night in an address to Congress...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...-its-getting-the-land/?utm_term=.cb7d6d32f1eb







This land is our land: Many property owners won’t sell for Trump’s wall

By Andrew Becker / April 5, 2018

201801_TheWall_S2_4430-1013x675.jpg



They are among the nation’s richest people, owning land in some of the most remote – and impoverished – places in the country. They are multigenerational ranchers and recent arrivals, heirs to Fort Knox-like fortunes and the inheritors of fallow dirt patches along America’s southern border.

Fiercely independent, they do have one thing in common: They will take center stage yet again if President Donald Trump moves forward with his promise to wall off the border with Mexico. As such, the question of who owns the border and how they will be compensated looms large. But many owners say they have no intention of giving up their land without a fight.

Over the past two decades, local activist Bill Addington has grown accustomed to battling outsiders treating his far-flung Hudspeth County in West Texas as a massive dumping ground for New York City sewage and a proposed nuclear waste site...

https://www.revealnews.org/article/...ny-property-owners-wont-sell-for-trumps-wall/



Amid immigration debate, feds moving ahead with land seizures for South Texas border wall

[FONT=&]At a briefing in McAllen earlier this week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection told a group of South Texas officials the federal government plans to move forward with private land seizures in the Rio Grande Valley to build sections of President Trump’s border wall.

[FONT=&]BY KIAH COLLIER JUNE 21, 20183 PM[/FONT]


Border_Wall_6_CR_TT.jpg

The border fence sits atop a levee on the periphery of the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge in Hidalgo County in February 2017. Callie Richmond for The Texas Tribune

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[FONT=&]As a national debate raged about family separations at the border, U.S. Customs and Border Protection told a group of South Texas officials earlier this week that the federal government plans to move forward with private land seizures in the Rio Grande Valley to build sections of President Donald Trump’s border wall.

[FONT=&]“They said that they got the money, they got the authority and they’re going to move on trying to acquire the land,” said U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Laredo Democrat who attended the briefing in McAllen of a few dozen officials from cities, counties and foreign trade zones along the Texas-Mexico border.
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[FONT=&]Cuellar, who serves on the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Homeland Security, said land will be seized to build a section of wall that's already been promised funding; on Thursday, the Senate Appropriations Committee passed a spending bill that includes $1.6 billion for about 65 miles of fencing in the Valley...

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https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/21/feds-moving-forward-land-seizures-border-wall/






there will also be congressional action needed to take Indian Reservation land.
 
Obviously this picture exists because the guy didn't make it OVER the wall. How many do make it over? I'd say this about 12 feet here? So a 15 or 20 feet will stop them? (I worked for a company where we used movable car ramps. And that was 30 years ago. I think they could be adapted EASILY to do this and over a higher wall)

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there will also be congressional action needed to take Indian Reservation land.

Hell, I hadn't even thought about that! When the 'Manhattan Mouth' started with his bullshit promise, this was one of the very first things I thought of. I knew how involved it would be. We've 'taken' land in small parcels in the past for various purposes along the border and there were people that kept things tied up in courts for very years.

The other absolute likelihood is that some of this land will be in MEXICO! Won't that be fun to watch?
 
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A of of the property owners are in on the graft. I remember seeing as a kid a thing on the news about how gangs, drug cartels, etc, were driving (sometimes killing) people along the border to get control of the land for their operations.
 
A of of the property owners are in on the graft. I remember seeing as a kid a thing on the news about how gangs, drug cartels, etc, were driving (sometimes killing) people along the border to get control of the land for their operations.

No doubt.
 
Landowners can donate the land and if not, don't build the wall there. After a few months of dealing with tresspassers, they will beg FedCo to build a wall on their property.
 
Landowners can donate the land and if not, don't build the wall there. After a few months of dealing with tresspassers, they will beg FedCo to build a wall on their property.

They're ALREADY doing that. That's why there are American 'posses'. BUT many don't have that problem and WON'T sell their land. And some won't sell it to the government for general principle.

THINK TEXANS.
 
They're ALREADY doing that. That's why there are American 'posses'. BUT many don't have that problem and WON'T sell their land. And some won't sell it to the government for general principle.

THINK TEXANS.

Simple solution- build the wall on the other side of their property.
 
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