Trumpism Isn't a Matter of Justice / Injuctice

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Mike

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There aren't many chances people (especially men) have to unabashedly express their feelings, show emotion. While the last decade has shown toxic masculinity to be on the right course to extinction, we're not quite there yet.

Politics is such a volatile topic, it lets people emote in ways they'd otherwise never have a chance to emote. And so, when all logic leaves, we're left with emotion. Like a drug - emotion is created through chemicals in our brain, enchanting / disenchanting us.

And so, when Donald Trump's visual image and vocal imprint pierce through people's heads, logic has no chance to puncture through this stream of emotional consciousness.

I'm baffled as to how tens of millions would be casting their votes for Trump, if they ever get a chance to.

Knowing this makes those who have a say in the matter realize what a monumental deed they must not only do, but also get to fruition. Just think of an incumbent president, practically charged with treason against his own people, imagine him pardoning himself plus all his sycophants, while letting those who opposed him in defense of the Constitution, rot in jail.

What kind of message does it send out to the world? To Americans?

Emotion blinds.
You are driven by the need to have a cause, to have purpose, to have a community, your own sheltering peers, all in the name of those chemicals - coursing through your foggy-foggy brain.

SAD. :-(
 
I'll vote for him if the alternative is a Democrat who's a Leftist, like Joke Bridem has been. There is nothing more sure to destroy a nation, it's people and economy than putting the Left in charge. Trump would be little more than a speed bump for America. Four more years of Bribem and we're on the path, as a nation, to become Detroit, Baltimore, California, or any of hundreds of other locales in the US that the Left has turned into utter and complete shitholes for 90% of the population.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I'll vote for him if the alternative is a Democrat who's a Leftist, like Joke Bridem has been. There is nothing more sure to destroy a nation, it's people and economy than putting the Left in charge. Trump would be little more than a speed bump for America. Four more years of Bribem and we're on the path, as a nation, to become Detroit, Baltimore, California, or any of hundreds of other locales in the US that the Left has turned into utter and complete shitholes for 90% of the population.
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Sounds like a clear case of being spiteful for the sake of being spiteful. The US of A has been plagued with problems ever since its conception. No one-party is to blame. No one wants poverty/misery for its citizens, it's (mainly) the system.

We've been brainwashed into thinking capitalism is this amazing system. Sure, when you put it up against communism, it is. But being brainwashed won't let you see that the system says the richer people get, the more they spend. The more they spend = inflation rears its ugly head. It's no one's fault. The system is broken.

That's the cold hard truth. :-(
 
Mike said:
Sounds like a clear case of being spiteful for the sake of being spiteful. The US of A has been plagued with problems ever since its conception. No one-party is to blame. No one wants poverty/misery for its citizens, it's (mainly) the system.

We've been brainwashed into thinking capitalism is this amazing system. Sure, when you put it up against communism, it is. But being brainwashed won't let you see that the system says the richer people get, the more they spend. The more they spend = inflation rears its ugly head. It's no one's fault. The system is broken.

That's the cold hard truth. :-(
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The Left is a plague I wish on no one. To avoid the Left being in charge of ANYTHING is an excellent idea. Your analysis above is horribly flawed.

Sure, unchecked capitalism without a 'referee' to keep things fair in terms of cheating, and monopolies is a necessity. But it is far better than unchecked socialism where the name of the game is confiscation and control of the economy by martinets.

Either way, if you let excess be the rule, you end up at ruin, only it's worse with socialism as there's no way out. What happens instead, in excessive systems black markets take more and more of the economy over until it collapses. Even in the most oppressive country on Earth, North Korea, black markets (eg., unrestrained capitalism) exist. At the other end, in a capitalist economy run by robber barons and monopolies, black markets run rampant to avoid them.

You need a balance. That balance should favor free markets with low bars of entry rather than heavily regulated and socialized markets that by their very nature end up forming the very monopolies you sought to avoid.

The cold hard truth is that the Left thinks heavy handed socialism and government control of markets is a good thing never recognizing the self-destruction they bring with it.
 
AS bad as you think Trump may be he is far less dangerous than Biden.

Trump will win, fix some stuff, then be gone in four years, what Biden will do in four more years will severely hurt us for a very long time.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Trump will win ... then be gone in four years
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If Trump is not held to account for what he has tried to do since 2020 - worse still, if he benefits by it - he would be the first of his kind in US history, but by no means the last. Someone else would be bound to try. And that person, whether he calls himself Republican or Democrat, might not be such a dumbfuck, blundering about with no plan except massaging his own ego. He would have a thought-out plan and the evidence to show that he could get away with it.

That could be the end of the American experiment. At best, it might result in something like Putinism. But maybe you think that would be a good thing?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
There is nothing more sure to destroy a nation, it's people and economy than putting the Left in charge.
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Acknowledge the obvious, TAG.
Destroying the nation that you regressive reactionaries want is an absolute necessity for building the nation that intelligent and civilized people want.

If we want to make both sides happy at once, we must partition the nation.
Otherwise, one side will have to capitulate to the other
and the blue states have much more money to spend on winning.

If I were a goober-cracker- trumpanzee, heaven forbid,
I'd still favor partition as I do now.

If one side gets it all, it will be us, not you.
 
Mike said:
Sounds like a clear case of being spiteful for the sake of being spiteful. The US of A has been plagued with problems ever since its conception. No one-party is to blame. No one wants poverty/misery for its citizens, it's (mainly) the system.

We've been brainwashed into thinking capitalism is this amazing system. Sure, when you put it up against communism, it is. But being brainwashed won't let you see that the system says the richer people get, the more they spend. The more they spend = inflation rears its ugly head. It's no one's fault. The system is broken.

That's the cold hard truth. :-(
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Welcome aboard. My first post ever directed towards a person who I’m sure now belongs to the Trump Cult was a missive that we all wanted the same things.

He told me to fuck iff. Sadly, you are wrong. We both want the same thing but in their cases it is reserved only for white male christians. They hate everyone else. Blind hate. I wish you were right. But spend a week here and you will quickly find out.
 
Concart said:
We both want the same thing but in their cases it is reserved only for white male christians.
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I don't believe that even the male white Christians on either side want the same things, Concart.

My life's experience doesn't suggest that.

I was raised as a male white Christian, even though the last part didn't really stick,
and I NEVER wanted the things that trumpanzees seem to want.
Even as an immature youth, I always had much more class than that.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I don't believe that even the male white Christians on either side want the same things, Concart.

My life's experience doesn't suggest that.

I was raised as a male white Christian, even though the last part didn't really stick,
and I NEVER wanted the things that trumpanzees seem to want.
Even as an immature youth, I always had much more class than that.
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I agree. I think you and I, on the surface, are both part of the 'club', but we definitely don't want what they want. But once upon a time, I could have a sane conversation with a Republican about policy issues. I've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating...... I used to have lengthy chats with this devoutly Christian conservative Republican. He was a really bright guy, in real life, he had been a sub commander. We had fascinating policy discussions about healthcare, tax policy, etc. WE WANTED THE SAME THINGS. This was during the 2008 campaign, and McCain picked Palin as his running mate. This guy came back from vacation a week later and declared that the Republicans could no longer reconcile their positions, and he voted for Obama. So yeah, you are right, and if I wasn't crystal clear on that, I should have been. He was so horrified by the Palin pick he gave up on the party. You can imagine how he feels about Trump.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
If Trump is not held to account for what he has tried to do since 2020 - worse still, if he benefits by it - he would be the first of his kind in US history, but by no means the last. Someone else would be bound to try. And that person, whether he calls himself Republican or Democrat, might not be such a dumbfuck, blundering about with no plan except massaging his own ego. He would have a thought-out plan and the evidence to show that he could get away with it.

That could be the end of the American experiment. At best, it might result in something like Putinism. But maybe you think that would be a good thing?
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Tried to do what?

Many politicians throughout our history have challenged election results at all different levels of government.

It's a perfectly legal thing to do.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Trumpism is revolt against the Failed Elite Class, who have completely betrayed us.
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And the "Stolen Election" is the heart of this misguided "revolt", as the SE has never been about the outcome of the voting, rather a revolt against the outcome. This is why the factual collapse of every challenge to the outcome has had little or no effect on the deniers.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The Left is a plague I wish on no one. To avoid the Left being in charge of ANYTHING is an excellent idea. Your analysis above is horribly flawed.

Sure, unchecked capitalism without a 'referee' to keep things fair in terms of cheating, and monopolies is a necessity. But it is far better than unchecked socialism where the name of the game is confiscation and control of the economy by martinets.

Either way, if you let excess be the rule, you end up at ruin, only it's worse with socialism as there's no way out. What happens instead, in excessive systems black markets take more and more of the economy over until it collapses. Even in the most oppressive country on Earth, North Korea, black markets (eg., unrestrained capitalism) exist. At the other end, in a capitalist economy run by robber barons and monopolies, black markets run rampant to avoid them.

You need a balance. That balance should favor free markets with low bars of entry rather than heavily regulated and socialized markets that by their very nature end up forming the very monopolies you sought to avoid.

The cold hard truth is that the Left thinks heavy handed socialism and government control of markets is a good thing never recognizing the self-destruction they bring with it.
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Good arguments and points, but that is FAR from Trumpism.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
AS bad as you think Trump may be he is far less dangerous than Biden.

Trump will win, fix some stuff, then be gone in four years, what Biden will do in four more years will severely hurt us for a very long time.
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You constantly fail to support your emoting with facts.
 
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