Trumpcare 2.0

Jarod

Jarod

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If Rump is smart he will now cut out the Freedon Caucus and get a better, more liberal, healthcare bill passed with Democrat cooperation. If he could build a center coalition leaving out the extremes he would likely very easily get reelected.
 
Jarod said:
If Rump is smart he will now cut out the Freedon Caucus and get a better, more liberal, healthcare bill passed with Democrat cooperation. If he could build a center coalition leaving out the extremes he would likely very easily get reelected.
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Well for once you've actually said something sensible!!

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Jarod said:
If Rump is smart he will now cut out the Freedon Caucus and get a better, more liberal, healthcare bill passed with Democrat cooperation. If he could build a center coalition leaving out the extremes he would likely very easily get reelected.
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He would haver to have his head seen to and apply to rejoin the human race first, and I think he is FAR too conceited.
 
I Love America said:
Just repeal Obamacare. Unless the GOP wants their voters to stay home in 2018
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Then they'd lose the support of moderate Republican voters who happen to like their current health care.

They're fucked either way!!!!
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Jarod said:
If Rump is smart he will now cut out the Freedon Caucus and get a better, more liberal, healthcare bill passed with Democrat cooperation. If he could build a center coalition leaving out the extremes he would likely very easily get reelected.
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I'm not sure he really even cares about the issue of making health care affordable to working Americans to begin with.

I think he's only interested in scoring victories and trophies to further adorn his wall of self admiration. Now that it's become a defeat, he's probably only interested in running away from it and trying his best to put it out of his mind and forget about it.
 
Jarod said:
If Rump is smart he will now cut out the Freedon Caucus and get a better, more liberal, healthcare bill passed with Democrat cooperation. If he could build a center coalition leaving out the extremes he would likely very easily get reelected.
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You are assuming that healthcare was the number one reason for that flawed bill.

It wasn't. They have no interest in creating a health insurance system that works.
 
Milagro said:
Damn good article in the Telegraph, really cuts to the heart of the matter.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...p-failure-repeal-obamacare-republican-crisis/

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Yep. It addresses a lot of what I've been saying...fairly accurately. This was about getting rid of taxes that would help further cuts later.

To the last paragraph, tax cuts coupled with increased spending has been the actual plan of every Republican administration, their rhetoric notwithstanding.
 
it's not going to happen. Trump is learning DC politics-there are no friends- just apportioning blame.
Obamacare is popular enough for now. It's got got design flaws though and the partisan blame game lands on the Dems
 
Jarod said:
If Rump is smart he will now cut out the Freedon Caucus and get a better, more liberal, healthcare bill passed with Democrat cooperation. If he could build a center coalition leaving out the extremes he would likely very easily get reelected.
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Any democrat who works with Trump will face a stiff primary challenge in the midterms.

Never climb in bed with a weasel.
 
anatta said:
it's not going to happen. Trump is learning DC politics-there are no friends- just apportioning blame.
Obamacare is popular enough for now. It's got got design flaws though and the partisan blame game lands on the Dems
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Wishful thinking on your part.

Trump and the Republicans swore to the voters that they would repeal and replace.

It is now glaringly obvious to everyone that those were just empty campaign promises designed to play upon and exploit for political gain, the anger and frustration of the American people at a system we all know is massively unfair to people of modest means.

IOW, most people.

Glaringly obvious as well, is the fact that Trump and the GOP knew damned well they wouldn't be able to repeal Obamacare, or at least, not replace it with something better. There is no perfect solution to the problem. Anything that gets created is going to cost somebody somewhere.

The left says it's more fair (or less unfair) to have the bulk of that cost borne by those who can afford it the most because they HAVE the most and the cost will have a negligible effect on the quality of their lives. The right says unfair is unfair and nothing else matters. Then they double down by trying to hand out tax breaks for these very same wealthy people, the fairness to whom they are trying to protect, in order to make them even wealthier and even MORE able to afford to shoulder the bulk of the burden of a health care system which they will not be asked to shoulder anyway.

Democrats' concern lies with human beings and increasing the quality of life.

Republicans' concern lies with WEALTHY human beings and increasing their wealth so that THEY can be the ones who enjoy quality lives and good luck to everyone else.
 
Nomad said:
Wishful thinking on your part.

Trump and the Republicans swore to the voters that they would repeal and replace.

It is now glaringly obvious to everyone that those were just empty campaign promises designed to play upon and exploit for political gain, the anger and frustration of the American people at a system we all know is massively unfair to people of modest means.

IOW, most people.

Glaringly obvious as well, is the fact that Trump and the GOP knew damned well they wouldn't be able to repeal Obamacare, or at least, not replace it with something better. There is no perfect solution to the problem. Anything that gets created is going to cost somebody somewhere.

The left says it's more fair (or less unfair) to have the bulk of that cost borne by those who can afford it the most because they HAVE the most and the cost will have a negligible effect on the quality of their lives. The right says unfair is unfair and nothing else matters. Then they double down by trying to hand out tax breaks for these very same wealthy people, the fairness to whom they are trying to protect, in order to make them even wealthier and even MORE able to afford to shoulder the bulk of the burden of a health care system which they will not be asked to shoulder anyway.

Democrats' concern lies with human beings and increasing the quality of life.

Republicans' concern lies with WEALTHY human beings and increasing their wealth so that THEY can be the ones who enjoy quality lives and good luck to everyone else.
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try putting that into a political talking point..lol

political talking points:
Dems.." we wanted Republican help to fix,not repeal"
Repubs " we got no help from the Dem's when we tried to fix Obamacare."
 
Jarod said:
If Rump is smart he will now cut out the Freedon Caucus and get a better, more liberal, healthcare bill passed with Democrat cooperation. If he could build a center coalition leaving out the extremes he would likely very easily get reelected.
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Funny Jarod.....when you thought it might pass, it was Obamacare 2, or Obamalite....now that it was shit-canned, its Trumpcare....:good4u:
 
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