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liberals on this site are arguing that dumb people shouldnt be given the right to vote :) you guys are scary.

That is not what is being discussed. You appear to be a simpleton. I direct you to Federalist paper #10 authored by Madison so that you might possibly, have some small hope, of grasping the meaning of that discussion.
 
That is not what is being discussed. You appear to be a simpleton. I direct you to Federalist paper #10 authored by Madison so that you might possibly, have some small hope, of grasping the meaning of that discussion.

any chance you could copy and paste what you're talking about?
 
Is it really possible that some posters here don't understand we live in a representative democracy, and not a direct democracy? I am really flabbergasted.
 
did i not ask politely enough for you?

I don't have time to type out Federalist #10 on here. You should have a copy of the Federalist papers. It (10) addresses direct democracy, factions, and majority passions. Every American should have read the Federalist papers. I would suggest, more than once.
 
I don't have time to type out Federalist #10 on here. You should have a copy of the Federalist papers. It (10) addresses direct democracy, factions, and majority passions. Every American should have read the Federalist papers. I would suggest, more than once.

I have, i just don't have them memorized nor do I carry my copy to work with me. i'll read it again when i get home.
 
Is it really possible that some posters here don't understand we live in a representative democracy, and not a direct democracy? I am really flabbergasted.

Do you believe your/our interests are being represented?? Or as much as "corp citizens"???
 
I believe in States Rights, to a point, but there are rules that limit what State governments can do. Its interesting that the regressive States, those that tend to want to limit individual freedom, scream freedom for the States, but not for the individual. They fight to be allowed the mob to limit the freedom of their citizens. If we went with the Conservative argument about States Rights during the Civil Rights movement, the States would still be free to segregate society. The minority black citizens would still not be free from the oppression of segregation.
with due respect it's federalism not "state's rights" i.e. the balance of powers.
The problem now though is that in an effort to correct for discrimination et all we've gone over the cliff to the point the federal government runs roughshod over the states.

a good ex.is housing where the fed'snot only say the states/cities not only have to have section 8 housing (desirable)-
Obama is now social engineering telling the states WHERE ( by income levels) the states need to put it.

Which causes all kinds of problems -it's almost like busing was for education. It's worse then gentrification in that
it collapses housing equity.

In general the states are the 'Laboratories of Democracy' ..(Louis Brandeis ).
Let them run there localities without undue interference form the fed's -what is happening all too often now
 
i actually see it as a negative for the eu. They used to rely on france britain and germany to keep the PIIGS countries afloat. Now they are down to two and they will be welcoming turkey shorthly XD XD XD

Classic example of more takers than makers :)

Interesting point. I can't imagine Greece voting to leave lol.
 
with due respect it's federalism not "state's rights" i.e. the balance of powers.
The problem now though is that in an effort to correct for discrimination et all we've gone over the cliff to the point the federal government runs roughshod over the states.

a good ex.is housing where the fed'snot only say the states/cities not only have to have section 8 housing (desirable)-
Obama is now social engineering telling the states WHERE ( by income levels) the states need to put it.

Which causes all kinds of problems -it's almost like busing was for education. It's worse then gentrification in that
it collapses housing equity.

In general the states are the 'Laboratories of Democracy' ..(Louis Brandeis ).
Let them run there localities without undue interference form the fed's -what is happening all too often now

"States Rights" was a movement based on one side of federalism. Look it up.

Now, you might have a point about the housing issue, I don't know. I suspect that the States are not being told they MUST have Section 8 Housing, I suspect they are being told that in order to qualify for specific funding they must have Section 8 housing... its a significant difference.

The States are the Laboratories of Democracy in some circumstances, in others they are the bane of Democracy. Allowing the states to prohibit Marriage based on sexual identity of the partners is simply anti-freedom for individuals. It might be freedom for States, but not for the individual American Citizens. I prefer freedom for individuals and at times the Federal Government has been the only way to take that freedom when the States tried to block it.

It was the Federal Government that said States cant make contraception illegal.
It was the Federal Government that said States cant segregate the races.
It was the Federal Government that said States cant block interracial marriage.
It was the Federal Government that said States cant get in-between women and their Doctors regarding medical decisions.
It was the Federal Government that said States cant prevent people from being married based on the gender identity of the partners.

Without the Federal Government in many parts of the United States these individual freedoms would have been usurped by the States. I for one want the Federal Government to continue to protect my individual freedoms. So if I move to Alabama or Texas or Virginia I want to have my individual freedoms. I want the freedom to buy Contraception no matter who gets elected governor of my State. It is Supreme Court Justices like the ones Donald Trump wants to nominate who would allow the States the "freedom" to take those individual freedoms away.
 
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