Trump to "Void" All Documents signed by Biden's Auto-Pen...

Damocles said:
I don't have any evidence that this is true, you are once again asking me to ignore the evidence before my eyes and replace it with what you say I should believe.

Look I don't like Trump, this is true. And those cards are not quite, YOU will enter the room, stand on the RED X, "Jim Acosta will ask YOU, 'What is your favorite color?' and YOU will respond 'I like green the most'" (yes, they actually had to capitalize YOU on the cards for some reason).

If I see the same thing happening with Trump I'll speak up, I promise you.
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I am not asking you to ignore the evidence. Your rose colored observations are not evidence. Even if you're correct, then I ask you to not ignore the "evidence" with Trump.

It's only fair.

There is no evidence that Biden suffered mental decline during his presidency.
 
AProudLefty said:
I am not asking you to ignore the evidence. Your rose colored observations are not evidence. Even if you're correct, then I ask you to not ignore the "evidence" with Trump.

It's only fair.

There is no evidence that Biden suffered mental decline during his presidency.
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You are, you told me you don't hate Trump, and all the evidence before my eyes is the opposite to that. And there was craptons of evidence, including books, written by one of the people that told us he was the "best version of Joe Biden ever" just a month before his brain fluid figuratively leaked on live television and he told us all he "finally beat Medicare"...

Shame on every one of y'all for watching that man go through the most public elder abuse case in history and covering that turd in a cat box instead of retiring him.
 
Damocles said:
You are, you told me you don't hate Trump, and all the evidence before my eyes is the opposite to that.
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I don't hate Trump. I think it's funny that he triggers both sides.

I also find it funny that his supporters whip into unquestioning obedience, rushing in to support and defend him, no matter what.

We see that here on JPP.

Never seen that kind of loyalty before.
 
AProudLefty said:
I don't hate Trump. I think it's funny that he triggers both sides.

I also find it funny that his supporters whip into unquestioning obedience, rushing in to support and defend him, no matter what.

We see that here on JPP.

Never seen that kind of loyalty before.
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That would be true, but you've seen it, it is equal and opposite to Democrats and Blue shirted politicians. It doesn't matter what they do, Desh and pals will be here to tell us how we should ignore what we see and how they are just awesome...
 
If Trump revoked every Biden executive order at once without immediately issuing replacements, the disruption would be real and measurable because hundreds of Biden orders are currently embedded in day-to-day federal operations. Many of them do not set ideology; they provide the procedural instructions agencies must follow to carry out existing law, including rules for cybersecurity coordination, immigration processing, disaster response, public-health preparedness, supply-chain reporting, environmental enforcement, contracting standards, and interagency communication. Removing all of them in a single act would leave departments without the legally required guidance they use to meet statutory deadlines, administer budgets, issue grants, process benefits, manage federal workers, and coordinate security operations. Older pre-2021 rules would not stabilize the system because many Biden orders updated or corrected obsolete provisions from earlier administrations, meaning agencies would fall back onto instructions that no longer fit current law or infrastructure. The likely result would be a rapid slowdown or suspension of programs as lawyers and career officials halt actions to avoid violating federal statutes. Contracting would pause, regulatory agencies would lose procedural footing, security coordination would weaken, and any crisis—cyberattack, natural disaster, or public-health emergency—would hit an unprepared, disjointed bureaucracy. The system would not collapse instantly, but core functions would degrade within days, producing a genuine administrative crisis rather than a routine policy shift. Bottom line - we're screwed.
 
signalmankenneth said:
So if all of the auto-pen pardons Biden signed are null and void, can Trump execute all the Federal prisoners Biden pardon to life in prison without the possibility of parole?!!:thinking:
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I don't think so, he actually directed those ones on television didn't he? I remember him announcing that he was doing that one. I just can't see how he can prove that it wasn't at the man's direction if he literally talked about how he was doing it on TV...

Also, it isn't just pardons that he's talking about... Executive Orders and other things the "team" signed without any record of direction from the pResident would be something they'd look at. Though saying they "all" are void is going to fail...
 
Maze said:
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Another distraction aimed at dominating the news cycle. trump can not do this. He knows it.
 
T.O. Goodwin said:
If Trump revoked every Biden executive order at once without immediately issuing replacements, the disruption would be real and measurable because hundreds of Biden orders are currently embedded in day-to-day federal operations.
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trump is talking about every single document Biden signed. Not just EOs. He has no ability to do that.
 
Althea said:
trump is talking about every single document Biden signed. Not just EOs. He has no ability to do that.
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If every document linked to the Biden presidency vanished overnight, federal agencies would be unable to verify which procedures were still lawful, which had been replaced since 2017, which were superseded by statute, and which simply no longer exist. Large parts of federal law would become unmapped because modern agencies do not rely on the U.S. Code alone — they rely on the hundreds of documents that interpret the Code into workable, legally compliant procedures. Programs would be halted by attorneys across agencies to avoid unlawful action. Payments, grants, inspections, border processing, security coordination, federal contracting, environmental enforcement, and public-health operations would slow dramatically or stop.

Older documents from earlier administrations would not save the system. Many were superseded, corrected, or partially repealed, and restoring them would create thousands of conflicts with current statutes, court rulings, and budget obligations. Agencies would face incompatible instructions, missing procedures, contradictory authorities, and unclear legal mandates. Career staff would freeze major operations until new guidance existed. Federal workers could not legally guess their way forward.

Within days, this would produce the closest thing the United States has ever seen to administrative paralysis: interagency coordination failures, delayed disaster response, inconsistent border enforcement, suspended regulatory actions, frozen contracting, stalled benefits, and a national-security posture weakened by missing or outdated protocols. It would not resemble policy change; it would resemble disabling the operating system of the federal government while it is running.

In short: eliminating all Biden executive orders is destabilizing. Eliminating all executive documents tied to the entire Biden term is incompatible with the continued functioning of the federal government. It would force a shutdown of major operations until an entirely new governing architecture was rebuilt from scratch.
 
Damocles said:
He had a total of 9 cabinet meetings, Trump held 7 in this year alone. Biden was bodily present at a meeting in 2024, but his wife ran the meeting. His cabinet members were not around him often enough to be able to judge his capacity.
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And yet in your blatant studity you accept made up stuff while ignoring these FACTS.

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If Trump is one off pardoning people he has NO CLUE who they are even as their crimes and offenses are explained to him by the reporter, then :

A) Others are actually writing and executing the pardons for him, using auto pen
B) he actually did and simply forgot due to dementia

There is no option C and you have not offered up what could be Option C other than conflating this as if one pardon in a pile of other Jan6th pardon.

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There simply is NO DENYING that no matter what you make up and CANNOT substantiate, what Trump ADMITTED TO as fact is far worse.

That Option A or B as the only two choices are completely damning for Trump.

If he is letting others do the pardons with the auto pen and he has no clue they should be invalidated.

If he is so far down dementia lane that even when the reporter gives him the prompts, NO ONE COULD FORGET, of the types of crimes the guy he pardoned did, then those pardons should be invalidated.

You care about fiction Damo while ignoring the above REALITY that CANNOT be denied.
 
Damocles said:
Truth bomb. You are purposefully ignorant. Nothing you say on the topic of Biden's Dementia Addled capacity has ever been true. Whole books written by leftwing pundits about the coverup of his dementia addled brain have been written. What astounds me is how transparent the left wing is in trying to say that Trump has the same problem while they literally held on desperately to the "deep fake" lie until it could be ignored no longer.
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you do not get to say the above with a straight face.

If Biden said in an interview that he had zero clue about a very serious pardon he had done... that he had no memory of it, you would call that absolute proof of Bidens dementia and the autopen use and you would be right.

Instead you remain purposefully ignorant and nothing you say on the topic of Trumps dementia addled capacity should be considered as anything but your TDS.

Trump delivered a truth bomb no one can ignore.
 
QP! said:
you do not get to say the above with a straight face.

If Biden said in an interview that he had zero clue about a very serious pardon he had done... that he had no memory of it, you would call that absolute proof of Bidens dementia and the autopen use and you would be right.

Instead you remain purposefully ignorant and nothing you say on the topic of Trumps dementia addled capacity should be considered as anything but your TDS.
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I get to say it with a straight face... because he pardoned a categorical group, not a list of names... Like Carter and his categorical pardons of draft dodgers, or Biden and "federal simple possession pardons"... He ordered an entire category of people to be pardoned, if some person is specifically named to him later he would not know the name any more than Carter might if we pulled one draft dodger that later murdered someone or something...

You remain deliberately ignorant on the subject.
 
It's just another clear indicator that Trump is only President for half of America.

He doesn't even make a token effort to unify. That's not Trump's world. He sees a world of either loyalists, or enemies.
 
Damocles said:
I get to say it with a straight face... because he pardoned a categorical group, not a list of names... Like Carter and his categorical pardons of draft dodgers, or Biden and "federal simple possession pardons"... He ordered an entire category of people to be pardoned, if some person is specifically named to him later he would not know the name any more than Carter might if we pulled one draft dodger that later murdered someone or something...

You remain deliberately ignorant on the subject.
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What the fuck are talking about?

The Binance guys pardon WAS NOT part of any categorical group.

Are you so stupid that you STILL think this was part of the Jan 6th pardons as it was 11 months AFTER that in October, you fucking simple minded dimwit.

You are ignoring what is right in front of your eyes and telling us to the same.
 
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