Trump takes WV in 2020

still acting like trump winning in 20/20 is impossible. Like not even worthy of consideration. it's the exact same attitude you guys had before 2016. The same exact confidence. One would think you guys would re-evaluate your confidence levels, but you'll never learn it seems.
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
still acting like trump winning in 20/20 is impossible. Like not even worthy of consideration. it's the exact same attitude you guys had before 2016. The same exact confidence. One would think you guys would re-evaluate your confidence levels, but you'll never learn it seems.[/QUOTE]

Man - you, Darthy, TD & the rest are really milking that for all it's worth.

What a bunch of complete morons. You'll deny ever supporting Trump, on anything.
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Thing1 said:
Man - you, Darthy, TD & the rest are really milking that for all it's worth.

What a bunch of complete morons. You'll deny ever supporting Trump, on anything.
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I am not milking anything, it is entirely relevant to the conversation at hand when talking about his future electoral prospects. You guys were insanely confident before, just as much as you are now, and you were fucking wrong. All I ask is for you to humble yourselves a little bit. Predicting a 100% chance of loss 3 years out is simply not an intelligent statement for anyone that considers themselves serious about electoral politics.

Do I think trump is going to win in 2020? It's hard to say. Absolutely he could lose. But he could easily win as well. Here are some factors off the top of my head:

- A lot of his low approval rating is from stubbron democrats that didn't bother to give him a honey moon. These are people that would never have voted for him anyway.

- He still has very high support from his base, and as of a poll I saw two weeks ago he still had a majority support in all the counties he won in spite of his 0% approval rating or whatever it is people are saying it is now.

- It's the economy, stupid. Right now DOW is at 22k. Maybe it'll be 25k in 2020. Economics has always been a very big factor in determining if an incumbent gains re-election. That's just a fact. If the russian narrative evaporates or proves to not be much and that's not hanging of his head anymore, and people are doing well economically, his poll numbers will probably go up and he'll be in a decent position.

- Historical evidence: Obama was at 39% in late 2011. He still won the election. Approval numbers 3 years out are pretty useless at predicting a winner because so much can change in that timeframe. hell a lot can change in just a month.

All of the above are perfectly valid reasons why trump could still win in 2020, but the true mouthbreathers on here are going back to their "no way not possible" attitude which was ill-informed and patently stupid in 2016, and it continues to be a stupid position today.

All I care about is actual honesty when discussing these matters. Too many of you just circlejerk without an acknowledgment for reality. I get it, you are butthurt about trump, but how about some actual truthful dialogue now and then?
 
We're on a thread titled "Trump takes WV in 2020."

Somehow, that exuberant confidence didn't seem to bother you.

I think Trump could win, but think it's unlikely. We don't know who the Dem is yet, so that will be a huge factor (obviously). I don't blame others for being 100% - the mere idea that this pathologically lying buffoon will be in our face for the next 3.5 years is almost too much to take. Any coping mechanism that people have is okay by me.
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
I am not milking anything, it is entirely relevant to the conversation at hand when talking about his future electoral prospects. You guys were insanely confident before, just as much as you are now, and you were fucking wrong. All I ask is for you to humble yourselves a little bit. Predicting a 100% chance of loss 3 years out is simply not an intelligent statement for anyone that considers themselves serious about electoral politics.

Do I think trump is going to win in 2020? It's hard to say. Absolutely he could lose. But he could easily win as well. Here are some factors off the top of my head:

- A lot of his low approval rating is from stubbron democrats that didn't bother to give him a honey moon. These are people that would never have voted for him anyway.

- He still has very high support from his base, and as of a poll I saw two weeks ago he still had a majority support in all the counties he won in spite of his 0% approval rating or whatever it is people are saying it is now.

- It's the economy, stupid. Right now DOW is at 22k. Maybe it'll be 25k in 2020. Economics has always been a very big factor in determining if an incumbent gains re-election. That's just a fact. If the russian narrative evaporates or proves to not be much and that's not hanging of his head anymore, and people are doing well economically, his poll numbers will probably go up and he'll be in a decent position.

- Historical evidence: Obama was at 39% in late 2011. He still won the election. Approval numbers 3 years out are pretty useless at predicting a winner because so much can change in that timeframe. hell a lot can change in just a month.

All of the above are perfectly valid reasons why trump could still win in 2020, but the true mouthbreathers on here are going back to their "no way not possible" attitude which was ill-informed and patently stupid in 2016, and it continues to be a stupid position today.

All I care about is actual honesty when discussing these matters. Too many of you just circlejerk without an acknowledgment for reality. I get it, you are butthurt about trump, but how about some actual truthful dialogue now and then?
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The Truth is Trump is a pathological liar, hypo-manic, narcissistic megalomaniac who is outclassed by Truth Detector and intellectually inferior to Text Driver.

Even you don't like him or respect him or think anything positive of him at all,
you just want to fiddle while the world burns and who better to burn it than Trump.

Mueller hired another lawyer today,
that makes 16 all investigating your boy.
You know as well as I do that Trump is dirty as sin.


He isn't running in 2020, he is running from prison.

Grow the fuck up, Grind.
 
"A lot of his low approval rating is from stubbron democrats that didn't bother to give him a honey moon. These are people that would never have voted for him anyway."

Let's see .. Obama faced the exact same thing from republicans .. but his low approval came deep into his second term .. not 15 minutes after he walked through the door. :0)
 
blackascoal said:
"A lot of his low approval rating is from stubbron democrats that didn't bother to give him a honey moon. These are people that would never have voted for him anyway."

Let's see .. Obama faced the exact same thing from republicans .. but his low approval came deep into his second term .. not 15 minutes after he walked through the door. :0)
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Holy smoke, the begging is starting a lot sooner than I thought it would. I did not expect Trumptards to be begging Democrats to give Drumpf a honeymoon. Not what you would expect from dimwits who's stated purpose in even voting for an Orange Clown was to "stick it" to liberals.

I mean, it wasn't until at least a couple years after the disastrous invasion of Iraq and the WMD went missing, that Teabaggers started begging Democrats to share equal credit for launching the Iraq War Disaster.
 
Cypress said:
Holy smoke, the begging is starting a lot sooner than I thought it would. I did not expect Trumptards to be begging Democrats to give Drumpf a honeymoon. Not what you would expect from dimwits who's stated purpose in even voting for an Orange Clown was to "stick it" to liberals.

I mean, it wasn't until at least a couple years after the disastrous invasion of Iraq and the WMD went missing, that Teabaggers started begging Democrats to share equal credit for launching the Iraq War Disaster.
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Trump walked in like the Emperor .. talking shit to everybody. Obama, Intelligence Community, media, judges, courts, talk show hosts, politicians both sides of the aisle. Elvis is in the building.

Now they're begging. :0) Where's my honeymoon?

This is your honeymoon .. it's only going to get worse.

Obama has got to be enjoying every minute of this.
 
blackascoal said:
"A lot of his low approval rating is from stubbron democrats that didn't bother to give him a honey moon. These are people that would never have voted for him anyway."

Let's see .. Obama faced the exact same thing from republicans .. but his low approval came deep into his second term .. not 15 minutes after he walked through the door. :0)
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15 minutes is generous
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
I am not milking anything, it is entirely relevant to the conversation at hand when talking about his future electoral prospects. You guys were insanely confident before, just as much as you are now, and you were fucking wrong. All I ask is for you to humble yourselves a little bit. Predicting a 100% chance of loss 3 years out is simply not an intelligent statement for anyone that considers themselves serious about electoral politics.

Do I think trump is going to win in 2020? It's hard to say. Absolutely he could lose. But he could easily win as well. Here are some factors off the top of my head:

- A lot of his low approval rating is from stubbron democrats that didn't bother to give him a honey moon. These are people that would never have voted for him anyway.

- He still has very high support from his base, and as of a poll I saw two weeks ago he still had a majority support in all the counties he won in spite of his 0% approval rating or whatever it is people are saying it is now.

- It's the economy, stupid. Right now DOW is at 22k. Maybe it'll be 25k in 2020. Economics has always been a very big factor in determining if an incumbent gains re-election. That's just a fact. If the russian narrative evaporates or proves to not be much and that's not hanging of his head anymore, and people are doing well economically, his poll numbers will probably go up and he'll be in a decent position.

- Historical evidence: Obama was at 39% in late 2011. He still won the election. Approval numbers 3 years out are pretty useless at predicting a winner because so much can change in that timeframe. hell a lot can change in just a month.

All of the above are perfectly valid reasons why trump could still win in 2020, but the true mouthbreathers on here are going back to their "no way not possible" attitude which was ill-informed and patently stupid in 2016, and it continues to be a stupid position today.

All I care about is actual honesty when discussing these matters. Too many of you just circlejerk without an acknowledgment for reality. I get it, you are butthurt about trump, but how about some actual truthful dialogue now and then?
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While I appreciate the analysis about why he might win, I am more concerned why a person thinks he should win. I'd like some truth from anyone who will vote for him. There are NO such people. Except from stormfront
 
Covfefe said:
Well, when the little coal boom is over, and regulations are still gone, you might start to realize coal's not going to make WV great, again. You need to entice Amazon to build there.
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Yes but your heroine would have just pulled the rug out from under their feet, she said as much during the election. Still why should you care, hubby made his pot of gold from fossil fuels so that you can lounge around your swimming pool cursing the proles.
 
west virginia would be an interesting topic for political study. Just 20 years ago Raping Bill won the state twice something like 15 points and now it is amongst the reddest of states.
 
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