“Trump set to accept luxury jet as gift from Qatar”

T. A. Gardner said:
If Trump wants to pay out HIS pocket to keep the thing flying, that's his business. I'd say a 747 as a private aircraft would be expensive for even a billionaire to keep up if used a lot. I suppose one could do it, but why?
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The Emir of Qatar has promised to pay all the bills. It is beyond the ability of trump to keep, but because he does not need to pay....

Hawkeye10 said:
My understanding is that gifts given to Presidents by foreigners, except for trinkets, belong to America.
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That is definitely the way it was supposed to work.
 
Walt said:
The Emir of Qatar has promised to pay all the bills. It is beyond the ability of trump to keep, but because he does not need to pay....


That is definitely the way it was supposed to work.
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2-2.5 years and a billion dollars to outfit it I was told today....then it goes to the Trump library immediately or almost so...

WUT?

NO.
 
Remember that the main problem with the current attempt to build Air Force Ones is that they are retrofitting already built planes, which is dumb.....it is taking way longer and costing way more than Boeing thought it would....and it is not all because of the now every day Boeing mismanagement....it is that the order of build is moronic.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
2-2.5 years and a billion dollars to outfit it I was told today....then it goes to the Trump library immediately or almost so...

WUT?

NO.
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Yes, it is a complete waste of taxpayer money, all so trump can have a big private jet after he leaves office.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Remember that the main problem with the current attempt to build Air Force Ones is that they are retrofitting already built planes, which is dumb.....it is taking way longer and costing way more than Boeing thought it would....and it is not all because of the now every day Boeing mismanagement....it is that the order of build is moronic.
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I liked that the original plan for Air Force One was to allow refueling in air. That meant it could literally spend a week in the air. It would not have to land for refueling. It could go anywhere on Earth in one span. It could hide the president from danger for days.

trump cancelled that to "save money", and started a new contract that cost more... So did not save money.
 
Walt said:
The Emir of Qatar has promised to pay all the bills. It is beyond the ability of trump to keep, but because he does not need to pay....


That is definitely the way it was supposed to work.
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Link proving that the Emir of Qatar has promised to pay all the bills.
 
gmark77 said:
Ad hominem is actually not just an insult. It is a fallacious means of argument by which you point to the person's character as opposed to the content of their argument.

Again, you seem to be out beyond your area of expertise.

And, yes, your post was a "Whataboutism". If you are unable to understand that then the problem lies with you.
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I stated "combination." Insults can be ad hominem at the same time, or there can be insults mixed into ad hominem. And no, my post wasn't "whataboutism." The reason it isn't is, I didn't bring up Clinton first. I expanded on a comment made by another poster who did bring up Clinton.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I stated "combination." Insults can be ad hominem at the same time, or there can be insults mixed into ad hominem. And no, my post wasn't "whataboutism." The reason it isn't is, I didn't bring up Clinton first. I expanded on a comment made by another poster who did bring up Clinton.
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It's always just hairsplitting on this stuff. I don't know why you think the distinction means anything.

In debate, either is lazy.
 
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gmark77 said:
We crossed the Rubicon long ago. At this point there is nothing "new" other than a difference in the variety of grift and corruption.
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Except you cannot name a single thing in use POTUS history that comes even close to comparing to this.

Prior POTUS breaking defying the Constitution Emoluments clause would face threat of being impeached and/or prosecuted.
 
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