Trump… Our Claudius

Yaya said:
Wait, so you admit he is no longer fringe and yet you're bashing my point?

:rofl2:

And he was not the leader, stop LYING. It started before him. He was merely a loud mouth billionaire about it. Man, you're insane.
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Haha. Tricked you - and you fell right into it. What a dope.

I NEVER SAID HE WAS FRINGE. You did.

Man, this is too damned easy. What a buffoon.
 
Thing1 said:
Haha. Tricked you - and you fell right into it. What a dope.

I NEVER SAID HE WAS FRINGE. You did.

Man, this is too damned easy. What a buffoon.
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Oh I see, take a common phrase and be dishonest with it.

Good one, you really got me with your dishonesty.

Let's get honest. Was he mainstream or fringe in the 2012 election?
 
Thing1 said:
I'm done. This will entertain me for awhile.

Anyone who is POTUS is mainstream. To try to argue he is fringe is so dopey.
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More lies, I am not arguing his IS fringe, but that he WAS you fucking insane person.

Again for the sane people, when he became the front runner he recanted his birther stance. When he was fringe back in 2012 election, is when he started babbling about it.

Thingy is just a dishonest twit who twists people's words, lies about them apologizing then runs away.

The simple fact is, is that only when Trump was fringe did he carry on about the birther crap. Only the fringe of the GOP believed the birther crap. Whereas nearly the entire democratic party believes the Russia collusion crap and nearly all of them say so many vile things about him, and they are even clamoring for impeachment, in less than 6 months.

But yeah, that is just like what happened with Obama.

:rolleyes:
 
I got this far... I doubt anyone else, other than the OP got that far.......


Rather Trump, also like Claudius, has assembled a first-rate team of advisors and cabinet officials.
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What utter horse shit..:palm: should be embarrassed..... The crazy blond, the briefart guy, his son n-law.. He is having a harder time to find ppl to work for him than @ his crowning before small crowds....

Oye fucking Vay...........
 
Yaya said:
Oh I see, take a common phrase and be dishonest with it.

Good one, you really got me with your dishonesty.

Let's get honest. Was he mainstream or fringe in the 2012 election?
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As soon as Thingy is asked to get honest, he runs away.

Pulls a deceitful trick on me, laughs with glee, and then when I ask him to be honest, all of a sudden he is done.

saved
 
Yaya said:
He was not the leader at all, that is another lie. He jumped on the tiny bandwagon when he ran in 2012. I don't recall him saying anything about it in 08 election. Further, the percentage of republicans who believed he was not born in the US was in the small minority. Also, in the 2012 election Trump was not even a Republican. He was a fringe independent candidate who didn't last long and who no one paid attention to. You really don't know your stuff.

The democrats who think Trump colluded with Russia etc are in the vast majority.

Maybe you're not dishonest, just a blind partisan hack.

EDIT: when he stopped being fringe, he retracted his claim about Obama not being born in the US. You fail so hard, LOL.
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Thing1 said:
I'm done. This will entertain me for awhile.

Anyone who is POTUS is mainstream. To try to argue he is fringe is so dopey.
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Proof Thing1 is a dishonest chump. I clearly said was.

You got no game Thingy. For some reason I rattle your cage everytime and you can't handle me.
 
Yaya said:
He was not the leader at all, that is another lie. He jumped on the tiny bandwagon when he ran in 2012. I don't recall him saying anything about it in 08 election. Further, the percentage of republicans who believed he was not born in the US was in the small minority. Also, in the 2012 election Trump was not even a Republican. He was a fringe independent candidate who didn't last long and who no one paid attention to. You really don't know your stuff.

The democrats who think Trump colluded with Russia etc are in the vast majority.

Maybe you're not dishonest, just a blind partisan hack.

EDIT: when he stopped being fringe, he retracted his claim about Obama not being born in the US. You fail so hard, LOL.
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Incorrect. He started this publicly in early 2011.

1. "Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."

- March 23, 2011, on "The View"

2. "He's spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I'll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country."

- March 28, 2011

3. "He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."

- March 30, 2011

4. "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."

- April 7, 2011, on NBC's "Today" show

5. "His grandmother in Kenya said, 'Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.' She's on tape. I think that tape's going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting."

(Continued)
 
christiefan915 said:
Incorrect. He started this publicly in early 2011.

1. "Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."

- March 23, 2011, on "The View"

2. "He's spent millions of dollars trying to get away from this issue. Millions of dollars in legal fees trying to get away from this issue. And I'll tell you what, I brought it up, just routinely, and all of a sudden a lot facts are emerging and I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country."

- March 28, 2011

3. "He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way."

- March 30, 2011

4. "I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."

- April 7, 2011, on NBC's "Today" show

5. "His grandmother in Kenya said, 'Oh, no, he was born in Kenya and I was there and I witnessed the birth.' She's on tape. I think that tape's going to be produced fairly soon. Somebody is coming out with a book in two weeks, it will be very interesting."

(Continued)
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How is what I said incorrect?

Be specific.
 
Here's the scoop, dopey:

You can't argue that the birther movement was "fringe," when the guy who led the movement is currently POTUS, who millions voted for.

The end. Kind of a boring story - but the end.
 
Thing1 said:
Here's the scoop, dopey:

You can't argue that the birther movement was "fringe," when the guy who led the movement is currently POTUS, who millions voted for.

The end. Kind of a boring story - but the end.
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I asked you a question and asked you to be honest, and you still haven't answered it.

Was Trump mainstream or fringe in the 2012 election?

And provide proof he lead it, as it started before his ramblings.

It is really that simple Thingy. No nonsense, must answer question one, and then provide proof of your claim.
 
I'll add - it's also dopey to try to compare it to Russian collusion. There is an actual investigation into the Trump's camp's ties w/ Russia.

Again - the end.
 
Yaya said:
I asked you a question and asked you to be honest, and you still haven't answered it.

Was Trump mainstream or fringe in the 2012 election?

And provide proof he lead it, as it started before his ramblings.

It is really that simple Thingy. No nonsense, must answer question one, and then provide proof of your claim.
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I wouldn't describe him as "fringe" at any time. But it doesn't matter - he's POTUS now. It's an argument of convenience that you're trying to make. You can't say that the birther movement was fringe when its leader is currently POTUS.

It's partisan hack shite you're arguing, anyway. Most of the mainstream right tried to marginalize Obama either w/ birtherism, or "Hussein," or w/ insinuations that he was a Muslim, et al. Mitch McConnell came out & essentially stated that their goal was obstructionism w/ Obama.

You're making a partisan hack argument, that will only resonate w/ partisan hacks. You don't have an honest bone in your body.
 
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